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    Oh no! It's the Australian Guy ... Sorry to nit pick Switcher, but a person is not born with a conscience. "Conscience" is a rationalisation. It is a thought. It is a notion.

    It is an aery faery idea that people use to talk to each other with. It is not a verb, not a doing-word. It is an almost useless word.

    What we are born with is EMPATHY. From the German einfehlung (Maybe I haven't spelled that right) meaning one feeling or shared feeling.

    Empathy is the feeling that underpins the idea of treating Others as you would like to be treated.

    Originally posted by Switcher56 View Post
    You don't need religion to have a conscience. You were born with it

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      Originally posted by Sat X RB View Post
      Oh no! It's the Australian Guy ... Sorry to nit pick Switcher, but a person is not born with a conscience. "Conscience" is a rationalisation. It is a thought. It is a notion.

      It is an aery faery idea that people use to talk to each other with. It is not a verb, not a doing-word. It is an almost useless word.

      What we are born with is EMPATHY. From the German einfehlung (Maybe I haven't spelled that right) meaning one feeling or shared feeling.

      Empathy is the feeling that underpins the idea of treating Others as you would like to be treated.
      The gist of what he was trying to say is extremely easy to understand. Quit being so anal. You don't have to subscribe to a religion to BE A GOOD PERSON. One does not have to practice a religion in order to be a decent human being. That was the gist and meaning of his comment. You know it too...and yet people are attempting to take apart what he said verbatim and prove it wrong on semantics.

      With all due respect, sir.

      The mental energy some people expend on absolutely ridiculous shit never ceases to amaze me.
      Last edited by enter sandman; 02-26-2021, 12:22.

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        - Sometimes - I find so much - in a quote -


        'It can all start from a seed'

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          Originally posted by gaiusmarius View Post
          so instead of believeing one lot you chose to believe a differnt lot.

          i would say to yu, it doen't fucking matter whether what is happening is Kalgeri plan or santaclause plan.

          its the facts that actually matter and are worrying. just here in Switzerland you can see immigration from shengen and the third world speeding up year for year.

          you see the laws change, you see the ministries hardening, being harsher with the public, you see crime go up and police powers being increased to deal with it, you hear english all over the place when 10 years ago it was all swiss dialect. you have arab, slavic, gypsy crime gangs abusing the system which makes people angry and they tighten support for the poor and start spying on everyone.

          we now have multiple genrations of Arab and African clans here involved in organized crime like we never had even 20 years ago.

          the Swiss citizens rights are shrinking the more we open our borders, so i don't give a fuck about Kalgari, i just have my eyes open to whats been happening in my nation in my life time alone and how much has changed for the worse. housing/job shortage, building all over the green spaces to accommodate all the immigrants.

          from being a tight nit village of a nation we are now a slummy mess of a big city where humans are no longer seen as individual free citizens with rights, but pawns to be ruled over. the excuse for every single step of totalitarianism was taken with the best possible motives of dealing with some new imported problem. so yeah i don't give a damn if its Kalgaries fault or some well meaning moron beurocrats and EU centric lawmakers.

          Ah !; but ... are you from Switzerland (one of the 10 safest countries in the world)? ... Because reading to yourself you sound like a mix between the worst neighborhoods of Los Angeles, Bagdag, Marseille and Mogadishu ...

          Surely the crimes committed in Switzerland by foreigners are a grain of sand at the bottom of the ocean of murder, torture, misery, corruption and crime, with which the Swiss banking system floods the planet by being the main money washer (black , or blood red?) of drug trafficking, organized crime and even world terrorism ... from at least the time when they laundered the money of the Nazi massacres and plunder.

          Pd: official Swiss source (you can change to another of the several languages available: in terms of diversity (among other things) linguistics, the Swiss are a world example):

          https://www.swissinfo.ch/spa/crimina...mundo/46237270

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            Originally posted by Gypsy Nirvana View Post
            - Sometimes - I find so much - in a quote -
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            ... For me it is the most "sophisticated" way ... but not the only one.
            It can also be achieved by making him believe that everything he does and thinks is WRONG (or that even himself as an individual is essentially BAD).

            Or also by simple dehumanization of his entire environment (whether he is a prisoner of the Nazi, Soviet, Chinese, Francoist, Pinochetist, ISIS or US camps in Guantanamo ...
            But also for growing up and living in a dehumanized society (neighborhood or country) ...)


            PS: The cousins are still very angry with you because of your theories and because we have not received your gift seeds yet ...
            But so you can see that we are not spiteful, we do send you a gift for Wales ...: a beautiful teenage princess with golden hair like the purest rosemary honey, and pale rose skin...
            ... We send it to you so that you educate it to us there in the most right-wing European Christian values sacrosanct ... far from this mestiza, impious and socialist society... ( N' Dads surprised her by twerkin dancing...)
            (Joking, but true)






            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3GBssWGRyoU

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              ...so be very careful how you bring her up, Gypsy, because we send you this little girl as innocent, pure and virgin as the Immaculate Conception...

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6FAWmZMAtKU

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                  Originally posted by Switcher56 View Post
                  Although your post has merit, I leave it up to you to debunk my statement. Life form on the planet does possess the gene for self preservation, from plants to humans. It's inherit. Therefore, why wouldn't we possess a conscience at birth?

                  Metaphor... There is no such thing as a bad dog, or breed. Just bad owners! Although that being said, it can be traced back to genealogy.
                  Offtopic:

                  Yes, there are lines and breeds with serious genetic defects (intended or unintended) due to excessive inbreeding.
                  Examples: the morbid physique and health of the English bull dog, the gratuitous and unlimited aggressiveness towards their congeners of a certain line of American pitbulls, or the psychological instability of many English coquers...

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                    Well, amazement is feeling too, so it's good to know you have Feelings.

                    But no Mate, we waffle on with words that are ideas and we float these ideas around ... and around ... and around ... like part-Humans ... semi-humans who have it in the head and not the heart.

                    And the 'semi' nature of our behaviour sees us able to reason anything away ... and categorise it ... give it names and talk about ideas as if ideas are real, are objects to play with and exchange ... when all the time those ideas are simply recycled from the last time we talked about them.

                    So nothing changes!

                    I mean no criticism of Switcher. He seems a peaceful person to me.

                    Originally posted by enter sandman View Post
                    The gist of what he was trying to say is extremely easy to understand. Quit being so anal. You don't have to subscribe to a religion to BE A GOOD PERSON. One does not have to practice a religion in order to be a decent human being. That was the gist and meaning of his comment. You know it too...and yet people are attempting to take apart what he said verbatim and prove it wrong on semantics.

                    With all due respect, sir.

                    The mental energy some people expend on absolutely ridiculous shit never ceases to amaze me.

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                      Originally posted by Montuno View Post
                      Offtopic:

                      Yes, there are lines and breeds with serious genetic defects (intended or unintended) due to excessive inbreeding.
                      Examples: the morbid physique and health of the English bull dog, the gratuitous and unlimited aggressiveness towards their congeners of a certain line of American pitbulls, or the psychological instability of many English coquers...
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                      “If only ignorant and gullible people accepted far-fetched ideas, little else would be needed to explain the abundance of folly in modern society.” ~ Barry L. Beyerstein

                      "When the facts change, I change my mind.
                      What do you do, sir?"

                      ~John Maynard Keynes~

                      The thing which man is most sure of, is man's greatest mystery.....gravity. ~ tjw

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                        Originally posted by imiubu View Post
                        Ah, just as I figured. I have no desire to 'debunk' your theories. IMO you are lazy and just like to spout off and never back any of it up.

                        Yes, there are 'bad' dogs, it's called "temperament" and cannot be trained out of the dog. Temperament is passed through genetics. Good breeders know this and will euthanize an animal that displays these traits.

                        In humans; "evil" is basically "temperament" which equates to lacking empathy. Those folks (think serial killers) should also be euthanized perhaps?

                        Now my friend... debunk the information I've presented.

                        Sorry Gypsy... I'm

                        Temperament in canine slang is (along with physical and health) the most sought after in the world of the working dog and has nothing to do with malice: in the Anglo-Saxon canine world it is called "drive".
                        It is more like tenacity and determination.

                        Logically, the temperament of a working dog can be very difficult to manage for the typical pet dog owner and can turn into a nightmare; but that is a separate issue...

                        I also don't think that in humans temperament is synonymous with "bad" or "lack of empathy", but more with "passion".

                        Pd:

                        Example of how a dog's enormous temperament can overcome even the most advanced obedience, (to a Spanish champion),
                        if the dog believes he has reason: IPO/IGP World Championship Final. From min 5, when the dog is ordered to release after the attack)

                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G_q2DvceqrM

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                          dedicated to Hempy

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_bI789Gog
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                          “If only ignorant and gullible people accepted far-fetched ideas, little else would be needed to explain the abundance of folly in modern society.” ~ Barry L. Beyerstein

                          "When the facts change, I change my mind.
                          What do you do, sir?"

                          ~John Maynard Keynes~

                          The thing which man is most sure of, is man's greatest mystery.....gravity. ~ tjw

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                            Originally posted by Microbeman View Post
                            - you guys get me thinking of dogs - so have to put this up - off topic as it is - lol

                            - a gone but not forgotten friend - RIP Zack -



                            * Didn't manage to be with Zack for his last 2 and a half years of life - due to being incapacitated due to being incarcerated in some real shitty jail - and he died a couple of weeks before I was finally allowed to deport in 2016 - while I was detained - other prisoners wives/GF's were allowed to visit with their dogs (small toy dogs) - so I asked the Warden if Zack could visit - and he wasn't too keen on the idea due to Zack's size - so it was a no-go - He was a great dog - a sentinel being - trained on the beach and in the sea - and mostly had a good life - as good as I could make it for him and his sister - and all the other dogs -
                            Last edited by Gypsy Nirvana; 02-27-2021, 05:38.
                            'It can all start from a seed'

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                              Originally posted by Montuno View Post
                              Ah !; but ... are you from Switzerland (one of the 10 safest countries in the world)? ... Because reading to yourself you sound like a mix between the worst neighborhoods of Los Angeles, Bagdag, Marseille and Mogadishu ...

                              Surely the crimes committed in Switzerland by foreigners are a grain of sand at the bottom of the ocean of murder, torture, misery, corruption and crime, with which the Swiss banking system floods the planet by being the main money washer (black , or blood red?) of drug trafficking, organized crime and even world terrorism ... from at least the time when they laundered the money of the Nazi massacres and plunder.

                              Pd: official Swiss source (you can change to another of the several languages available: in terms of diversity (among other things) linguistics, the Swiss are a world example):

                              https://www.swissinfo.ch/spa/crimina...mundo/46237270
                              the Swiss banks are not the Swiss people. also all banking secrecy has been abolished a long time ago. much harder to launder money here nowadays then many other places.

                              as for crime stats, they are fake as fuck. our politicians are on the woke train and refuse to correctly count crime statistics by foreigners. even the news papers will hide the nationality of foreigners when they get arrested for some atrocity. but the Swiss people know, they see it, whether its the increased violence at schools, or in nightclubs or on the street.

                              the right svp party has actually introduced a law to force authorities to correctly identify criminals. no more saying Zürich man robbed so and so, when its an foreigner with residency or a naturalized foreigner.




                              "it is clear that the individual who persecutes a man, his brother, because he is not of his opinion.....is a monster" Voltaire

                              not every post you disagree with, has to be responded to!

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                                Originally posted by Microbeman View Post
                                Haha, very nice Microbeman!

                                -Cheers

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