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Marjorie Taylor Greene thinks capitalism is socialism

Cannavore

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this person is an elected representative LMFAO this is what happens when you gut public schooling and get rid of civics classes and dont learn basic political science.



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mowood3479

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Idk seems accurate to me.. the elite party members live a life of luxury whilst the masses starve to death.

socialism It just a change of who is in charge… and with less benefits for those at the lowest rung of society..
(Do you think welfare payments factor for double or triple digit inflation ?)
or will the government do what it’s doing now and say there is no inflation or that inflation is a good thing.

if you got cash, trade it for something useful now (ammo, gold, food stuffs, body armor) . It’s going to zero.
 

Cannavore

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She failed to distinguish that the very few will be the government. Lol.

I bet that pisses you off huh Cannavore. I know it's not your fantasy socialism that has never existed.

What shes describing is the current realities of capitalism. If you dont get that maybe people like you and her should stop trying to discuss things you dont understand. Or at least take the time to understand them.
 

Cannavore

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Idk seems accurate to me.. the elite party members live a life of luxury whilst the masses starve to death.
Key distinction here being what you just said doesnt make them socialists lol. This is the effects of capitalism.

socialism It just a change of who is in charge… and with less benefits for those at the lowest rung of society..
lol huh? Owning your own labor and having free healthcare isnt a benefit?

(Do you think welfare payments factor for double or triple digit inflation ?)
or will the government do what it’s doing now and say there is no inflation or that inflation is a good thing.
Dont think I've ever heard anyone say inflation is a good thing.
Odd how inflation is suddenly a concern though when discussing things that would benefit the people. Lol.
 

packerfan79

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What shes describing is the current realities of capitalism. If you dont get that maybe people like you and her should stop trying to discuss things you dont understand. Or at least take the time to understand them.

Lol. Surprise Surprise, Socialist want to control speech. How Soviet of you.

I understand the way things actually work in the real world, again, not fantasy.
 

mowood3479

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Key distinction here being what you just said doesnt make them socialists lol. This is the effects of capitalism.


lol huh? Owning your own labor and having free healthcare isnt a benefit?


Dont think I've ever heard anyone say inflation is a good thing.
Odd how inflation is suddenly a concern though when discussing things that would benefit the people. Lol.

How does one own their labor In a socialist govt the true tax rate is around 50% of ur earnings… (enforced at the business end of a gun.)
And I know economics isn’t ur strong suit but the reason inflation is suddenly a concern is because of the double digit inflation we are currently facing (the worst inflationary crisis since the late 70s early 80s..
only thing is this time the fed is hemmed up and can’t raise rates, so they have to let the inflation run its course (deny its existence)
this end result is that the Biden admin downplays or denies inflation or like yellen insists it could be a good thing.. or that it’s transitory..

but the bottom line is the lowest income earners bear the brunt of the pain.. as the real cost of food, gas, housing rises they end up fucked..
this is also why printing trillions of new dollars and then handing it out to corporations and fraudsters is a bad idea.

have y’all seen the articles estimating that 50% of the ppp loan program (billions of dollars) was lost to outright fraud.

that’s what government does….they waste half the money and spend the other half on bombs (a murderous waste).
 

packerfan79

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How does one own their labor In a socialist govt the true tax rate is around 50% of ur earnings… (enforced at the business end of a gun.)
And I know economics isn’t ur strong suit but the reason inflation is suddenly a concern is because of the double digit inflation we are currently facing (the worst inflationary crisis since the late 70s early 80s..
only thing is this time the fed is hemmed up and can’t raise rates, so they have to let the inflation run its course (deny its existence)
this end result is that the Biden admin downplays or denies inflation or like yellen insists it could be a good thing.. or that it’s transitory..

but the bottom line is the lowest income earners bear the brunt of the pain.. as the real cost of food, gas, housing rises they end up fucked..
this is also why printing trillions of new dollars and then handing it out to corporations and fraudsters is a bad idea.

have y’all seen the articles estimating that 50% of the ppp loan program (billions of dollars) was lost to outright fraud.

that’s what government does….they waste half the money and spend the other half on bombs (a murderous waste).

Imagine believing that a socialist, would allow the masses to make individual choices, about how to alienate individuals labor for an agreed upon price.

Ultimately, socialism is nothing more than a bunch of weak Betas, who don't have the stones to negotiate for better wages.

I have doubled my wages in 3 years, because I am not afraid to walk. I make more than people who have been with the company for decades.in a socialist country a union would have stopped me from negotiating a better wage based on my skill,, knowledge, and work ethic.
 

Cannavore

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How does one own their labor In a socialist govt the true tax rate is around 50% of ur earnings… (enforced at the business end of a gun.)
because for the thousandth time, socialism is the change in ownership of the economy. the workers are in control. not a government, not a ceo, not a businessman. that's literally it. socialism does not exist without this change in ownership and there is no "set" tax rate lol. high tax rates wouldn't exist if a handful of people didn't control everything and hoard all the money.


And I know economics isn’t ur strong suit but the reason inflation is suddenly a concern is because of the double digit inflation we are currently facing (the worst inflationary crisis since the late 70s early 80s..
only thing is this time the fed is hemmed up and can’t raise rates, so they have to let the inflation run its course (deny its existence)
this end result is that the Biden admin downplays or denies inflation or like yellen insists it could be a good thing.. or that it’s transitory..
i don't care. money is fake.

but the bottom line is the lowest income earners bear the brunt of the pain.. as the real cost of food, gas, housing rises they end up fucked..
then its a good thing i support policies to alleviate this problem under capitalism


this is also why printing trillions of new dollars and then handing it out to corporations and fraudsters is a bad idea.
good thing i don't support anything of the sort.

have y’all seen the articles estimating that 50% of the ppp loan program (billions of dollars) was lost to outright fraud.

that’s what government does….they waste half the money and spend the other half on bombs (a murderous waste).

imagine my shock, greedy capitalists stole taxpayer money because they literally own the government? no way!
 

Microbeman

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Words of wisdom from Cannavore (really - no sarcasm) - i don't care. money is fake. > the real solution to what ails the US - maybe the world
 

mowood3479

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because for the thousandth time, socialism is the change in ownership of the economy. the workers are in control. not a government, not a ceo, not a businessman. that's literally it. socialism does not exist without this change in ownership and there is no "set" tax rate lol.

i don't care. money is fake.
!

I forgot that u use a different dictionary from the rest of us.
mayb u should get a translator app…(from marxist to English) would prob make discussions more fruitful.

ur utopia sounds wonderful.. but My knee hurts I don’t think I should be forced to work at all..
the workers in the utopia of cannavoristan should be forced to give me food and shelter and other commodities…
I mean if money is fake and resources cannot be depleted than why bother working at all? To what end are the people toiling in the mines… the factories, the construction projects…
seems like a plot hole u could drive a Mack truck through… but why nitpick, nobody is gonna be driving Mack trucks in cannavoristan
 

GOT_BUD?

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You obviously misunderstand what the Speaker's Corner is for. This is a place where the Left and the Right can get together to throw memes at each other in an attempt to "own" the other side. We're not looking to solve problems. We're here to prove our side is correct and the other side is nothing but doodooheads.
 

EastCoastGambit

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What I love about all the "anti-socialists" is how scared and worked up they get about an idea. While I believe socialism as a system never really worked because unfortunately it doesn't really jive with human nature. However, I have observed plenty of downfalls of capitalism and pure capitalists would have no problem ruining anyone else's lives to improve their own, they hardly pretend to care about the poor and will work people to the grave.

I think the greater issue is for the "system" to function all the gears need to turn. That said - people need to work but we are short on industry and jobs. Jobs are being replaced by machines, robots, AI, and not to mention all the outsourcing. So when consumers no longer have the means to purchase goods and services the owner's class loses the folks that fund their livings. I kind of think of it like a game of monopoly, once one person obtains all the wealth the game is over.

I feel a better way of moving forward is to kind of evolve and realize that maybe we don't all have to work/slave as hard and could spend more time with family and enjoying arts and culture. We could value more than our wealth and egos and can meet our basic needs more easily through the wonders of technology. This is what intimidates the status quo, because there are so many out there that were taught its me against you or us against them.

The middle class is disappearing. The world is globally connected. We need to change our ways for our fellow Americans, many of whom are running out of options.
 
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