Anyone 'cured' prostate cancer with....

[moose eater]

Local shop thinks the plant I was remembering was perhaps 'Aloha', but I can't remember clearly enough to say yes or no in a definitive manner.

That said, they have a 'Blue Dream' in cuttings (a handful of them remining right now) that advertises as 11% CBD and 9% THC. not bad, and closer to what I'm seeking, though in my perspective, I was hoping for a bit higher THC content, and maybe a point or 2 lower on CBD.

And the projects mount... Work may keep the mind more busy once the immediate lull in energy subsides.

Onward.

[BudToaster]

... It seems that when I've been making canna butter, I was essentially decarbing the cannabis during the process of boiling/simmering of the weed, water, and ghee, right? ...

according to Shantel @ Ardent, the oil insulates the THC and prevents a more complete decarboxylation. i have the Nova and it works. it has been tested to be 95% conversion. they have an infusion device which i just got for spouse for Festivus. i hope to replace her crock pot infusions with a better/simpler/more effective device. we'll see.

i did about 12 oz in my NOVA for extractions for spouse when she had a big/deep melanoma - she still had the re-excision, but doctor was surprised when the pathology showed a lack of spread - in situ. he was skeptical when i mentioned the THC prophylaxis treatments - about 3 weeks. s'ok. he's an excellent plastic surgeon - he's been whittling on me a bit - i'm like an old (72) whittling stick - damn those sunburns when i was a teen.

[moose eater]

according to Shantel @ Ardent, the oil insulates the THC and prevents a more complete decarboxylation. i have the Nova and it works. it has been tested to be 95% conversion. they have an infusion device which i just got for spouse for Festivus. i hope to replace her crock pot infusions with a better/simpler/more effective device. we'll see.

i did about 12 oz in my NOVA for extractions for spouse when she had a big/deep melanoma - she still had the re-excision, but doctor was surprised when the pathology showed a lack of spread - in situ. he was skeptical when i mentioned the THC prophylaxis treatments - about 3 weeks. s'ok. he's an excellent plastic surgeon - he's been whittling on me a bit - i'm like an old (72) whittling stick - damn those sunburns when i was a teen.

Thanks Bud.

I'll give it a viewing/look it up.

All anecdotes and research, as well as information re. processes and equipment are more than welcome.

Thanks again.

[moose eater]

Weez, I nearly forgot to mention some musings last night. You'd mentioned using a jeweler's cleaning apparatus to blend your lecithin with your extract.

If I take extract oil, lecithin (of what ever sort), and coconut oil, all in equal parts (for starters, let's say 1.8 grams of each, or even 18 grams of each) then divide equally into 10 Or in the case of 18 grams each, 100 doses of 180 mg of THC extract, and a total weight of 540 mg including the coconut oil and lecithin components in the final weight) I would have either 10 180 mg (actual extract oil) content per 1.8 grams of each component mixed, or 100 doses of 180 mg if using the 18 grams of each component method/measurements, correct?

I could freeze any capsules or suppositories of this sort, for later use, theoretically with minimal degradation to the product (again, the years-old capsule I ingested last night was most certainly effective in terms of perceived effect).

The question I posed to myself last night was this; would heating, say to about 140 f., in a stainless steel pan on the induction cook-top, while blending with what ever tool, the lecithin, coconut oil, and THC extract, be apt to end in a 'homogenized', somewhat stable (even if just for the time it takes to load capsules and freeze them) substance? Or is the THC extract/oil apt to remain separate from these components, no matter what, if using this method?

My thinking was that the coconut oil might help the extract to merge/mix more thoroughly with the lecithin?

Trying to make this happen without buying an entire dental office or hardware worth of new tools.

[Weezard]

I'm quite grateful, Weez.

I'm out of rep, having just gotten the ability to provide it yesterday, I played catch-up, and am out of it.

Despite my tangentiality, and Rainman-like ramblings at times, I am both quite interested and quite grateful for your and others' assistance.

One notable change for me is that I have always had a needle-sharp memory, to the point that it (borderline) frightened persons at times. I've always been so fixated on details that learning new or complex things takes me more time, but in the past, once it's locked in my mind, it's been there for next to forever.

Over the last year (+/-), I notice my retention is dropping off somewhat dramatically; whether an overload of the proverbial data base, generic issues with aging, failing of neuro-transmitters/synapses, cancer-related, or what, I can't say at the moment, but it is both mildly frustrating, and a bit alarming, too.

It seems that when I've been making canna butter, I was essentially decarbing the cannabis during the process of boiling/simmering of the weed, water, and ghee, right?


Sadly, not so right. That graphic that Gry posted says it all.
The function is time and temperature. As temperature is lowered time increases for full decarb.

100° C. is simply not hot enough to do it well in a reasonable time. So, while it had some potency, it would have been much more so with a full decarb. It leaves too much still in acid form.


So I wondered last night, after first reading your first reply last night, "Why does the cooking off of the solvent not simultaneously decarb the oil??" Or does it, in part, do just this??


Key there is, "in part".
First iso is azeotropic. The is, it's boiling point changes as it becomes less wet. So that's a moving target. It starts at 82.3° C. for anhydrous. Worse that water for decarb. that rises to 100° near the end. Then large steam bubbles form until the water is all but gone. At that point, the temperature rises rapidly to the boiling point of the oil. in between, tiny bubble form. That is CO2. The bubbles are tiny because CO2 is dense. This is a danger. The transition from decab to scortched change is rapid and unforgiving. You can ruin an entire batch and be left with CBN.


That said, and considering I've successfully made ISO oil years ago, using Shmike's method, and that the decarbing of oil seems to be a bit more clear in "Is it done yet?" criteria than decarbing flowers, would it make sense to make the oil, then decarb, simply watching for the bubbles to subside as the oil heats?


That is when you switch to a coffee warmer.

You still have to watch it carefully, but there is more room for error.


Local health food outlet has both empty gelatin caps and empty vegetable caps, and I figure on the veggie caps, as it intuitively seems more body-friendly, but that's simply a guess.


Dunno, I use regular gelatin caps. (Iffn it ain't broke . . .)


Likewise, they have both soy lecithin and sunflower lecithin. My memory tells me that both sunflower oil and unfermented soy products have been deemed less than healthy, but I have no clue if soy lecithin is a fermentation product or a raw extract, which according to my distant memory, makes the difference in healthy/tolerable, and not.

In that I didn't make that trip to the store last evening, that will be something I plan to do today.

I ingested 1 of the previously referenced cannabis capsules from my freezer last night, from an acquaintance from years ago, and it lacked nothing in potency. Years ago I would give the same fellow larger quantity of my weed, typically bagged, then sealed 2 x's in Food Saver pouches. I had noted, out loud in discourse with him, that the weed, after sitting for some time, vacuum packed, even in the freezer, was definitely further along in curing and transition, than when he'd received it, despite freezing, storage, etc.

Again, simply based on subjective perception, this told me some things (maybe) about curing continuing after freezing, sealing, etc.

I'll try your experiment to see if the rosin causes apoptosis for the skin tags; I seem to have developed a bumper crop of the things over the last 20-30 years. The only question will be which ones I can reach, and which ones my wife is subjected to treating for my not being able t access them.

I had a few buds years ago from a Hawaiian Sativa (1 of only a few retail cannabis outlet purchases I made as novelty buys, simply to walk into a store and buy some weed over the counter. other than that, I haven't frequented the places, and haven't had to buy any weed in several decades.

The thing with the weed above, was that while it was stated to maybe in the 13% to 16% THC range, it was ledged/advertised to be in about the 6% (or so) CBD range..

At this point in time, I have ample flower on-hand to make my oil (Dronkers' California Indica <an old plant here- 23 years now>, Ghost Train Haze #1, Greenhouse Seeds original Super Lemon Haze, Bodhi's Goji OG, a variety of Satori trials, a variety Bodhi's Space Cake, a variety of trials of Bodhi's White Lotus, and maybe another 1 or 3 on hand). I've personally tested none of them for THC/CBD, let alone ratios, so can only make loose speculative conclusions based on genetic sourcing, and know straight off that my senior citizen girl, Dronkers' CI, is at LEAST as much a Sativa as an Indica, based on the history I 'know' from Sensi Seeds back in the 1990s.

Bodhi's WL and others, to include Goji OG, include lineage from his somewhat infamous male of Himalayan/Hindu Kush origins, unless my memory is more screwed than I believe it is..

At this point, I'll using all of the above, including both trim and flower, to make any oil, though I will likely tumble the trim for hash first. (*Likely that smoking, rather than eating or vaping, at this point in time, is not the wisest of moves for me).

I will look into an IR heat gun, or what ever it was you referenced, and see how fast I can get one coming. The more elaborate chef's/coking store in town is no longer with us, having closed several years ago, so not sure who would have that in town. As much as I loathe tossing money to Jeff Bezos, as you say, his Co. is sometimes Johnny-on-the-spot for oddities... like suppository molds, as one example.

I considered using my digital meat thermometer, but don't trust the calibration enough.

I suspect (read: 'hypothesize') that I can indeed cook off solvents in the cold, or even extreme cold, if I maintain the proper heat. But to cook off the volume of either Ethyl or Iso alcohol, I will need at LEAST a 5 qt or 6 qt. stainless steel sauce pot.


That is correct.

One of those rare times when bigger is, actually, better.
Here's the url for the IR gun that I use; https://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Ther...s%2C284&sr=8-9



Knowing now your and others' reference to the alcohol absorbing H2O form the air, our humidity here in the cold winter air is often topped out, between 80% and 100% RH, but this is (as I'm guessing you're aware), due to air being saturated at colder temps, with MUCH less actual water present, and air holding MORE actual water in reaching saturation at warmer temps. So, for now, in my level of understanding (or not) I don't believe that should be an overwhelming issue.

It's more than a bit ;likely that my primary (current) specialist has both the CT scan and the nuclear bone scan results in his possession. I KNOW he has the CT scan, and no reason to believe he hasn't received the other. Thus, it's another week-end that someone has information I see as seriously important, but I haven't received a call yet. Several ways to interpret this, but all of it is speculation, until his staff call me in for a mtg. They're extremely good folks, but I think it's a common affliction among we humans to fail at times, where putting the proverbial shoe on the other foot is involved.

Well, that's my novella for this morning.

Thanks again. Seriously.

Wow! a rambler after my own heart.


Sorry about the format here. it's the best way for me. Cannabis does affect immediate memory and I am usually well oiled.
I will try to call you tomorrow. But no worry if I space out.

It happens.

[moose eater]

Thanks Weez.

Our mutual friend here has my contact info and number, and may have already given that to you?

I'm a slow learner for details, focusing on every mm gained in yardage, one partial inch at a time. but it used to be I retained it after that.. not so much now... which does worry me a bit, as stated earlier.

Ruining head stash, which to date has only been partial and when it has occurred, it has been typically due to questionable soilless mixes, etc. is bad enough. But needing to make a steady and reliable supply of medicine, and the prospect of ruining that??!! Well, that would SUCK badly...If I'm making medicine, I absolutely need there to be no screw ups. I can find room some place to forgive the process and my ignorance, but the cancer likely will not....

I tell folks I've been a fortunate person with beginners luck, sometimes spanning decades.

BTW, the simmering and boiling process for the butter runs HOURS at 2 different levels of heat. And the butter I have is WAY potent (my butter, as opposed to a stash I was gifted, which also isn't bad). So if it were to be more potent, it's have to come with a bigger warning label. As is it, if I eat a half of a brownie, it's as though someone hit me up with something beyond enjoyable.

Anyway, thanks again.

Take care.

[moose eater]

Wow! a rambler after my own heart.


Sorry about the format here. it's the best way for me. Cannabis does affect immediate memory and I am usually well oiled.
I will try to call you tomorrow. But no worry if I space out.

It happens.

Hey Weez, I looked at the gun you linked to, and while it's got a 4.5 rating and is under $20, it's not Prime. I'd have to look at their restrictions re. shipping to Alaska (they sometimes seem to think we're rich, or special, or something like that.. And often miss the fact that USPS flat-rate boxes fly here at the same pricing they do any [place else... though Amazon doesn't typically use them...)

I have access to a Prime acct., and there's another IR temp gun that is also same temp range, also a 4.5 rating, and is Prime, but is $34.

My person with a Prime acct. will look up the ins and outs of either model, shipping, etc..

Thanks again.

[moose eater]

Well, we've now 'dosed' the skin tag on my right shoulder blade 2 x's with high-test heat-pressed resin (which I've been inaccurately referring to as 'heat-pressed rosin'), and I'm due for the 3rd 'pasting' in a very short time.... Like about 16 minutes from right now.

I can't see it myself, even with a mirror, due to lacking an additional 3-5 joints in my n3ck vertebrae (another part of the body that has needed work by my neurosurgeon, but for which there's little to be done, last we talked about it), so I take my wife's word for it.

Her last assessment was, "It looks a lot less happy."

I'm an OCD detail-addict, who measures many things in tiny, well-defined increments. but I live with family members who define things very broadly and often times, vaguely... Yes, there are sometimes fireworks when I ask for detailed answers, but currently any energy from anxiety is pointed elsewhere, or plainly out of sufficient 'gas' to light any fires.

Not to mention, when you have what appears to be an abundance of Neanderthal genetic make-up and the body hair to prove it, with resin being guarded in place by very sticky Scotch tape, one is wise to arrest any pointed criticism before launching it; otherwise the shoulder blade version of abrupt 'waxing' is apt to be the payback involved...

So I'll take her word for it; "It looks a lot less happy." ... OK.

Next...

I noted to another yesterday evening that the whole plant-based diet, despite some amount of meat still making its way to my gullet (though lesser amounts, for sure), tends to leave a person (me anyway) feeling more full, after eating less food... Not to mention that most organic veggies in the stores here, range in price from $2/lb. to $4 or $5/lb., with most decent meats or seafoods coming out much more than that per lb. An oddity in life where becoming more healthy physically also means perhaps being more healthy financially.. Likely an very odd circumstance, per my memory.

Shopping for a 6-8 qt. sauce pot of decent construction that suffices as 'induction cookware.' Word to the wise; don't phone your local dept. store clerk asking about such things. It's above their pay-grade in most/many cases, and in my case, I had no clue either, until Weez and Google clarified the issue for me...

Per my reading, and bear in mind I've rarely enjoyed the effects of alcohol excesses, having been raised with persons who clearly demonstrated the down-sides of excess drinking.. (*A hearty thank you for that bit of Yin & Yang), it seems that beer, whether craft beer, or random American piss water, is apparently BAD for cancer and issues with the bladder, etc. Not to mention that beer often brings substantially more carbohydrates than a shot of decent reposado tequila, which, pre-carb-conversion, scores 0 carbs, and only an average of 64 calories.... Thank you, Jose'.

Tequila comes out as relatively 'neutral' where cancer and even diabetes are concerned. Though the stomach lining and liver may be off in the corner, grumbling about having been left out of that survey...

Wine, while having some carbs, is apparently as good for bladder and other issues, as it seems to be for plaque in the arteries; who knew?? Red wine, more specifically, by the way, though I don't know if the differences in benefit between red and white wines translates to cancer and bladder issues, like they do for vascular issues. More reading is in order, there.

So those are the updates re. back-yard medical teachings in my research and observations today.

I've now managed to NOT make it to the health food store 2 days in a row, to get the capsules, lecithin, and strainer lids. I'm leaning toward today being the day.

Lots of winterizing to be done still; wooden frame of bulwarks to be repaired and re-installed in the boat, to help keep the cover lofty for the snow season, so the snow doesn't sink in, and cause more issues, all 3 trailer hitches all need lubricated with silicone spray, and wrapped in tarps with bungee straps, so if we need them in the frosty season, they're ready to go, with no icing to inhibit the use of hitch locks or hitches. And 2 more cords of wood to be processed for a neighbor... Not to mention the continuing projects, including correcting my soilless mix.. hopefully for a final or nearing-final time.

For Christmas, my wish list now includes more wind in my proverbial sails... as well as a miracle cure for cancer, (some of which we are working on), and to find in the tests that the stuff is as reclusive and hermit-like as I tend to be, and is still isolated to the prostate.

"Peace, love, and soy beans..."

[Weezard]

Aloha M.E#. You wrote this to CC;



"I know this works for some/many, and know there are those who it doesn't work for.

Maybe the mind, believing, and unidentified 'mind over matter' powers of the brain are more at play, and we sometimes believe in something, and make it happen, attributing outcomes to other sources.

I know both the science of things, and the mind's attitude, play a role in all kinds of things."


While all that is true, riddle me this. How does the faith healing hypothesis apply to dogs that have no idea they are being medicated?



And know that I had zero faith in THC remission. Thought it was one of the silliest claims I'd ever heard. Only tried it from a paucity of options. There are many variable to the oil, and chemically our bodies not all the same.
That and the fact that there are many "flavors" of carcinoma, readily explain some treatment failures, yah?

[moose eater]

"I know this works for some/many, and know there are those who it doesn't work for.

Maybe the mind, believing, and unidentified 'mind over matter' powers of the brain are more at play, and we sometimes believe in something, and make it happen, attributing outcomes to other sources.

I know both the science of things, and the mind's attitude, play a role in all kinds of things."


While all that is true, riddle me this. How does the faith healing hypothesis apply to dogs that have no idea they are being medicated?
And know that I had zero faith in THC remission. Thought it was one of the silliest claims I'd ever heard. Only tried it from a paucity of options. There are many variable to the oil, and chemically our bodies not all the same.

That and the fact that there are many "flavors" of carcinoma, readily explain some treatment failures, yah?

Yep, there are LOTS and LOTS of variables herein.

And at this stage, for what ever the varied and may experiences I've had, I'm a virtual idiot lost in the woods in this current path.

I'm open to all possibilities, and likely make for a good test subject, as my anticipation bias is close to neutral. I may have been from Missouri in another life; the 'show me' State.

A large <2.4 gallon induction-capable stainless steel stock pot with pouring spout is (maybe) on the way, depending on shipping restrictions, which should be known in minutes.

Likewise, we're engaging in procuring the IR (cooking) thermo-gun at this time as well; again, dependent on shipping restrictions to Alaska.

Invasive adenocarcinoma is my critter, and from reading a bit, it can originate in various places, so until we get back the results from CT scan and nuclear bone scan, it's a guessing game with little purpose, to try and discuss whether it went to the prostate from another location, or originated in the prostate, or has remained local to any one place.

Again, all in unison, to the tune of the Oscar Mayer wiener tune, "My cancer has a first name, it's .."

By the time this is over, there may well be a complete stand-up comedy routine in the making here.

By the way, at a rating of 80%, I think dogs know a LOT more than we sometimes give them credit for. And in the case of German Shepherds, I think that level of cognition increases a bit for many of them. Of the 3 pups here, 2 of them, to esp. include the Shepherd, appear to be having some reactions to the change in environment/decorum/emotional atmosphere. The cause, like the rest of it, is up for speculation. But my aging Shepherd pup sure seems a bit bummed out the last few days. Transference? Projection? Maybe.

[moose eater]

BTW, It appears I'm several days away (or more?) from being able to send PMs, or being able to see who gave me rep and rep with comments.... Or even being able to reply to visitor messages on my page/wall.

So thanks everyone who has left messages of support, trinkets, or what ver.. whom ever you may be.

Sincerely.

[Weezard]

I know this, for the moment. I had been on a roll getting projects completed before this dx came down, almost as though I intuitively knew it was past time to finish up things before... something.

Now this issue has (at the moment) taken the wind out of my sails, hopefully not for long, as many of the projects still need done; barn siding and addition to be completed, the pressure-treated wood porch and approach into the shed we replaced the foundation of, my soilless mix project, for which I have some very thorough and tangible guidance, and more.

So I need to get back in the saddle, and get 'er done, one way or another, for one reason or another.

I know I don't have time at the moment to do a miracle harvest of that Hawaiian Sativa strain I referenced, with a decent THC/CBD profile, but I wish I had about a lb. of tat here right now, to mostly make oil from... I really do. Maybe I'll put her on my Christmas list, if I can track her down and remember what the hell she was called.. The fellow I knew at that shop is back in Hawaii with his family as of several years ago, unless his status has changed. Really good guy, by my observations, too. Maybe I'll call the shop at some point, and inquire as to whether anyone there recalls the specific strain in reference.

Probably shouldn't be smoking, but I think I'll go have a puff or 3 from the more recent harvest, or some hash, and dab some of the rosin onto a skin tag or 2, with some Scotch tape, beginning the experiment, a 'la Weez. If I had a safe, functional digital camera, I could maybe treat the viewers to a couple Frankenstein-like pics of any results from the skin tag experiment... Has anyone engaged in cyst or tumor porn here before? Is it an offense that might lead to being banned?

Warning, these are fugly;
First, the dog; 4 breasts were involved, dog was very ill lost 20 pounds eyes clouded over and no interest in anything. It got bad before I knew why, because I could not see at the time. in 3 days, eyes cleared strength and appetite returned and she actually got frisky. all tumors gone in 14 days. And she lasted another 3 years 'til the kidneys went sour.

Then the moles;

Moles take a while. Perhaps because they are close to normal.
They can take months.

The oil pulls sebum to the surface as the mole shrinks and pinks.



Yep, looks a lot less "happy".


Heres the gunk it pulls;


Skin tags remiss faster and melanomas can pull in 7 days.
When gone, they leave no trace, so "after" pics are unexciting, yah?
Can not express how good it was to actually see results. Gave me back my future.

[moose eater]

Thanks for the pictorial evidence, Weez.

Dogs have a much higher threshold for pain in many/most cases, and so they tend to exhibit behavioral symptoms related to physical issues much later than we people might, by which time the ailment(s) (to include cancers) are often further along.

I've lost good canine friends to cancer, years ago.

We're keeping an eye on the skin tag experiment. My wife's description this AM, when I questioned her for more specific details, was that it appeared more deflated or limp in appearance. We agreed that it's a bit premature to assess progress, and that the tape and extract might be the cause of 'flattening' the thing, where more subjective visual appearances are concerned.

So, we'll keep moving forward, and like the 3 wise men in the desert, waiting for some kind of sign.

[Weezard]

Local shop thinks the plant I was remembering was perhaps 'Aloha', but I can't remember clearly enough to say yes or no in a definitive manner.

That said, they have a 'Blue Dream' in cuttings (a handful of them remining right now) that advertises as 11% CBD and 9% THC. not bad, and closer to what I'm seeking, though in my perspective, I was hoping for a bit higher THC content, and maybe a point or 2 lower on CBD.

And the projects mount... Work may keep the mind more busy once the immediate lull in energy subsides.

Onward.

We have a lab on island so I was able to get my buds tested.
Last 5 kine tested high THC, but "no detectable CBD"
Everything I do to my plants seems to make them more potent.

Tough life, yah?


Gave that up and bought some of the CBD that Tommy Chong is selling. Eyedropper under the tongue, twice per day to supplement the oil.

[Weezard]

Hey Weez, I looked at the gun you linked to, and while it's got a 4.5 rating and is under $20, it's not Prime. I'd have to look at their restrictions re. shipping to Alaska (they sometimes seem to think we're rich, or special, or something like that.. And often miss the fact that USPS flat-rate boxes fly here at the same pricing they do any [place else... though Amazon doesn't typically use them...)

I have access to a Prime acct., and there's another IR temp gun that is also same temp range, also a 4.5 rating, and is Prime, but is $34.

My person with a Prime acct. will look up the ins and outs of either model, shipping, etc..

Thanks again.

De nada.


We pay envy tax in Hawaii, too. Might be cheaper to pay shipping yah?