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    Is curing necessary?

    If you want to decarb and make edibles (coco butter)as soon as possible after harvest....is it necessary to cure? Dry to a certain percent? I would imagine that getting rid of chlorophyll would be needed for taste...but are there any benefits to the final product of curing, or are all those benefits lost during decarb and coco butter production?
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    #2
    IMHO, curing is always better
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      #3
      At least a few weeks in the jar, otherwise what's the point.
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        #4
        You're going to find people who will support both sides of the argument here, the best thing is to figure out what works best for your situation. My view is as above, a few weeks in the jar is good, but I've never really got the 'longer cure is better' guys.
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          #5
          Thanks everyone for the opinions. During my limited growing experience (2 grows) I've always done the jar cure. But... then I was planning on smoking, and eventually also vaped my crop. Since (Covid-19) I went to straight edibles (coco butter cookies).



          Anyone know what the commercial edible makers do? Cure first or straight into the mix?
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            #6
            Originally posted by Dropped Cat View Post
            At least a few weeks in the jar, otherwise what's the point.
            Trying to preserve my old joint smoking lungs.
            There is no way I would be able to resist at least vaping some well grown and cured weed.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Switcher56 View Post
              IMHO, curing is always better
              I agree. I tried a quick freeze on some fresh bud one grow & did some rosin pressing. Everyone that tried it agreed that it tasted 'green'. I cure for 3 months. It might be just in my mind, but in smoke trials, I still taste & smell 'green' until about 2 months. I give it another month just because I can.
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                #8
                Necessary? It isn't death or taxes, so, no.

                Desirable? Preferred? Sometimes to the benefit of both taste AND high? Absolutely.

                You can smoke/vape ganja as green and freshly harvested, and/or quick-dried as you choose, but it's a little like feeding your good food to others, and giving yourself a chunk of coal with some mustard on it..

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                  #9
                  ^^ what he said ^^ I always pull 2-3g from my harvest after drying only, well maybe a week old, to see how I made out (potency). Vaped or smoked it is harsh. Since most of my consumption is through pills, a moot point. But, I also vape and yes there is a definite difference. The thing folks need to do is plan ahead, so you don't have to smoke shit.
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                  but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”


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                  the crotch of the person who screws up your day and,
                  may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                    #10
                    Without a doubt.....if I was going to smoke or vape my harvest....I would definitely cure. But decarbing and heating with coco butter? I'm thinking dry down to about 62% to get the green (chlorophyll ?) taste out....and then decarb.


                    Anyone know what the commercial edible makers do? Seems as though they would have researched this already.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Old Toker View Post
                      Without a doubt.....if I was going to smoke or vape my harvest....I would definitely cure. But decarbing and heating with coco butter? I'm thinking dry down to about 62% to get the green (chlorophyll ?) taste out....and then decarb.


                      Anyone know what the commercial edible makers do? Seems as though they would have researched this already.
                      Dunno! I don't know what they are doing with their edibles... but I do know that available legal weed is nothing to write home about, as most of it has been tumbled.

                      It seems that commercial growers, extract everything they possibly can from a given plant, whereas, home growers target what they want from that plant...

                      Focus on the pros and cons of decarbing vice the narrow window of should I decarb for making edibles?

                      I'm what I would call, an amateur wine connoisseur, I can taste the immaturity of a wine by how thin the wine tastes (metaphor), it lacks body and maturity, especially the kind that only see a SS casket.

                      If it wasn't beneficial, folks would skip that step!
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                      but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”


                      May the fleas of a thousand camels infest
                      the crotch of the person who screws up your day and,
                      may their arms be too short to scratch.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by moose eater View Post
                        Necessary? It isn't death or taxes, so, no.

                        Desirable? Preferred? Sometimes to the benefit of both taste AND high? Absolutely.

                        You can smoke/vape ganja as green and freshly harvested, and/or quick-dried as you choose, but it's a little like feeding your good food to others, and giving yourself a chunk of coal with some mustard on it..
                        I agree, is it necessary, no but it does help.
                        I took some early 2 times now for 'test' for taste, burn, & ash.
                        Before final chop & hang.
                        My tests show 4 days and ready to jar.
                        I got new RH bags in 58%
                        I get better results to pull smell taste out.
                        I will try using dry sift screens and plan to collect each level and press for the best on my 6 ton press.
                        I learned something I did not do, make a parchment sleeve
                        to press thru, better results

                        'Yes' cure & keep some for each holiday by vacuum packing in jars.
                        I use a 3 gallon chamber, and a 3cfm single stage vacuum pump.

                        Sure it cost a bit, but 3 grows a year is 3 flavors to enjoy on every occasion

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tobedetermined View Post
                          I agree. I tried a quick freeze on some fresh bud one grow & did some rosin pressing. Everyone that tried it agreed that it tasted 'green'. I cure for 3 months. It might be just in my mind, but in smoke trials, I still taste & smell 'green' until about 2 months. I give it another month just because I can.
                          Are you saying once u leave it in the jar uninterrupted or while burping until leaving flowers in jar interrupted before u notice the "green" smell and taste is gone?

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                            #14
                            This is an old debate. Weather you think doing it makes weed better the fact is the longer cannabis is cured/stored/around the more it will degrade. There is no escaping this.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hammerhead View Post
                              This is an old debate. Weather you think doing it makes weed better the fact is the longer cannabis is cured/stored/around the more it will degrade. There is no escaping this.
                              This is true but the mere fact that it degrades means comes from one point of non degradation to degrading so I would think somewhere in between there you would have too early which is immature 2 a nice sweet spot which would be at its peak and all the way to degrading which would constitute at some point it was at is best

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