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    #31
    Originally posted by Ralph W. Llama View Post
    I mix raw tincture with oat milk for a tasty smooth beverage. Decarb, grind, quick soak, filter, use. The leftover material goes in the cook pot for edibles. The alcohol is minimal to begin with and the oat milk effectively hides it. If you evap the alcohol, the oils become harder to mix with other liquids, but sugar seems ideal. Maple syrup is my favorite. Going to have to try some.
    Thanks for the reply
    Thats sounds like the "funkiest" white Russian
    Appreciate any recipe and folks who accidentally hit the link here will get some useful info

    My ability to ingest edibles relies on eliminating as much of the cannabis taste as possible
    I make edibles for myself and my sister (rheumatoid arthritis)
    Both of us find it hard to eat infused treats if the cannabis taste is strong
    Pain can wipe out your appetite and at peak times make it almost impossible to ingest anything, even the thought of eating can turn your stomach

    Your method sounds like a more rounded extraction that has a lot of the extras that folks like
    Wish I could tolerate the taste because it would probably be a healthier choice
    Again thanks for the reply
    I really appreciate it and keep working on different carriers and recipes

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      #32
      I am looking for ideas on this as well. gummies seem to be interesting, easy to dose. never tried making them. good real dark chocolate can be mixed with infused coconut oil when melted and it makes a pourable chocolate shell for frozen anything, bananas with peanut butter, etc

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        #33
        Originally posted by cudme View Post
        I am looking for ideas on this as well. gummies seem to be interesting, easy to dose. never tried making them. good real dark chocolate can be mixed with infused coconut oil when melted and it makes a pourable chocolate shell for frozen anything, bananas with peanut butter, etc

        There are lots of recipes for gummies
        Agar agar, xanthan and several others do the job well

        How do you make your edibles?
        I make an alcohol is extraction that I reduce into coconut oil and simple syrup ( honey and agave are the preferred sugar carrier)

        Currently working on refining my filtering process for the tincture
        Some pics of the filtering and reduction orocesses

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          #34
          you could do two batches, one batch only in the alchohol for 10 minutes, shake and pour off.then let the material soak in a different bit of alc. for the normal time. this first bit will be way less green tasting.
          when i make coconut oil i just boil the herb with water and coco oil so the oil doesnt burn and so the water takes all clorophyll and dust away from the oil. then cool in a freezer, scrape the oil cake bottom for green bits and eat that first, cleaning the rest. big diff in taste.

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            #35
            It is still going to produce an earthy cannabis tasting edible
            I think the cold alcohol extraction and carbon/celite filtering will give me the best results
            At some point I will add enough carbon to get a clear tincture
            The above method allows my sister to consume cannabis without vaping or having to deal with the cannabis taste
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              #36
              I have a plant that smells and tastes like mandarin orange spice. The oat milk mix tastes like a creamsicle. Cold quick wash gets the good flavors and leaves behind the chlorophyll.

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                #37
                For some folks the cannabis taste, no matter how strong, does not bother them and they actually like it and it lets them know the edible was infused

                For folks like me even the hint of the cannabis taste can turn my stomach
                The quick cold wash does a great job at reducing a lot of the taste and was my go to method before I discovered the carbon/celite scrub for the tincture
                If you can tolerate the taste then the scrub may seem like overkill
                But if you cannot stand the taste then this can open up edibles to you

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                  #38
                  I hear you that some folks don’t like the “cannabis” taste, but I am unsure what that really means. The variety of flavors is huge and the off flavors that people tend to associate with edibles and tinctures are mostly chlorophyll based, in my experience.

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                    #39
                    There is a lot of debate about the "taste"
                    Some folks describe it as chlorophyll taste but detractors say chlorophyll has no taste, others say it is an earthy almost mint like taste (the chlorophyll)
                    As usual you get opposing viewpoints that deteriorate into a useless exchange
                    The taste is there, why is not important at this point
                    What can we do to mitigate the taste?
                    I have done a water cure, cold alcohol extraction, multi stage filtering and got results that allow me to eat and drink my edibles with little to no detectable cannabis taste
                    Basically looking to hook up with other extraction method members to exchange ideas
                    My sister has crippling Rheumatoid Arthritis and the edibles help her a lot for pain management and appetite

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                      #40
                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2purN2...has_verified=1

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                        #41
                        Hi
                        Just a request to the moderators
                        ​​​​​Could you remove this thread
                        This project has caused me too much grief and I need to stop the trolls
                        It is beyond ridiculous
                        Just trying to make some edibles for sick people
                        I cannot believe the hate
                        It is imperative this thread be removed
                        Please and thank you

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                          #42
                          Have to keep trying!
                          Please could I have this thread removed
                          I started this project because of an ill family member (cancer) who could not smoke/vape
                          The product was the result of trying every carrier we could think of for oral ingestion
                          The simple syrup was just an example for an introduction to molecular gastronomy
                          Since the video was finished it has been nothing but a nightmare of people who may know something (but probably not) picking it apart
                          Its about molecular gastronomy not the syrup but the jerks focus on the wrong point and instead attack the syrup which exposes them as just horrible people who are only posting to be negative
                          The syrup is not a dead end but a small example of what can be done with a cold alcohol extraction
                          I posted on several sites and thoroughly regret it
                          Please if any moderator reads this take the thread down and spare me anymore anguish
                          These A-holes will eventually make it here
                          Please, it has been a rough year

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                            #43
                            Hey bud,

                            I hope I wasn’t part of the problem and sorry for the trolls in other places. I think your best course is water cure > ice water hash > decarb > tincture > carbon filter > syrup. Water seems to strip flavors pretty effectively in early processing.

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                              #44
                              I have been doing what you stated above for about 15 months without the hash
                              This is flower only extraction method, it was meant to include everyone even if you could only get flower or relied on your grow but could only put small amounts towards edibles
                              This method gets easier as you go up the ladder using hash, rosin and other concentrates

                              People bashed me on the carrier and not the process
                              This is about nano emulsion and bioavailability
                              The smaller the cannabis oil droplets the better the dispersion and the whole thing is held in suspension with the gums
                              This should make it more bioavailable from my miniscule bit of understanding of the research
                              With the simple syrup you can take an immersion blender and really disperse the cannabis oil
                              The syrup will be thick but fluid and can be thinned to desired consistency within reason

                              Can you get the same kind of dispersion and suspension with honey/agave/glycerine?
                              I hope so but have to test and my research on the honey seems to leave you with a whipped end product thats not fluid but that's with one attempt

                              Its typically not folks who respond to the thread that are an issue but folks who read their posts and get to you through messaging and email
                              People who post to the thread are usually just bored and backhand you but occasionally they can derail the thread
                              This is a lot of unknown so I could have been better at posting but inexperience got me

                              Just a note, if you are doing carbon filtering the celite really helps to remove the carbon and give you a nice clean slightly tinted tincture

                              But removing this thread would be best until I work out wrinkles
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                              Remember this is about nano emulsion and bioavailability

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                                #45
                                You only need a coffee filter for rough ice hash, so it’s pretty universal. Certainly easier than carbon. As for a carrier, maple syrup seems like a better consistency. You could also dilute honey or any syrup that’s too thick.

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