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    Let Me Run My No-Till Plan By You

    Hey everyone,

    I am well into my first grow with a single tent, but it's time to step things up. I am trying to utilize a cabinet space for veg so I can have a rotation of plants in veg and flower at all times.

    Veg Space:
    • Dimensions - 18x33x26 inches
    • Containers - Two, 10 gallon Smart Pots
    • Light - 4 bulb, two foot, T5 setup
    • Will eventually get a small oscillating fan
    • Plug-in and cold air intake IN the cab!
    • Link - Link to veg space thread


    Flower Space:
    • Dimensions - 2x4x7 feet
    • Containers - Two, 10 gallon Smart Pots
    • Light - Advanced Platinum Series P450
    • Link - Link to current grow (seed, veg & plan to flower)


    On to the good stuff, the no-till recipe I plan to use. I am planning to fill four, 10 gallon Smart Pots (two in veg & two in flower at all times) which is 5.35 cubic feet. Some extra material would probably be wise. Especially if I find I have room in the veg cab for a mother or two.

    I received the below recipe from a friend on Instagram, who I don't think is on icmag. I am sure he got it from someone, so if you created this recipe, or it is fucked up, I apologize. I am here for your advice on my measurements and if anything is missing.

    2 cubic feet each:

    - Peat Moss
    - Compost
    - Pumice

    2 cups each:
    - Kelp Meal
    - Neem Meal
    - Crab Meal
    - Malted Barley
    - Earthworm Castings

    Random:
    1 Cup Gypsum
    10 Cups Basalt
    12 Cups Biochar
    10-12 worms per 10 gallon pot

    Cover Crop:
    - Equal mix of white clover and crimson clover


    So what do you think?!
    • Is 10 gallons big enough for no-till?
    • How do the measurements look?
    • Am I allowing enough room in my cabinet? I am nervous the height of the pots and the amount of space the light is going to take up is not going to allow a ton of room for the plants to grow.


    I truly appreciate your help and opinions. Can't wait to get this started.

    Stay humble,
    Tri_Cho_Me
    Last edited by Tri_Cho_Me; 10-11-2016, 03:08. Reason: Added earthworm castings to the list
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    #2
    I skimmed through your post but was going to reiterate what I summed up with you on IG.

    I feel like if you want to do no till then just go for it. I would only do it if it makes sense for your situation though. I've tried notill once indoors and I don't think I'll do it again because I don't have the space to run bigger containers. Outdoors I did notill because it was easier and I had the space to do it.

    Either doing notill or ROLS will work depending on how you set things up. Just go for it if you want.
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      #3
      Originally posted by who dat is View Post
      I skimmed through your post but was going to reiterate what I summed up with you on IG.

      I feel like if you want to do no till then just go for it. I would only do it if it makes sense for your situation though. I've tried notill once indoors and I don't think I'll do it again because I don't have the space to run bigger containers. Outdoors I did notill because it was easier and I had the space to do it.

      Either doing notill or ROLS will work depending on how you set things up. Just go for it if you want.
      Oh I'm going for it. I just want people to poke holes in it so I can limit mistakes, save money, etc.

      Thanks for popping by!
      Tri_Cho_Me
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      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=331706 Current/First Grow - Strawberry Kush

      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333484 My No-Till Adventure

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        #4
        No EWC in your soil mix?
        Perlite/rice hulls or the like?

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          #5
          no till? I'd not consider that no-till farming and the benefits of no till farming will not be realized indoors in small vessels.

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            #6
            Originally posted by bigbadbiddy View Post
            No EWC in your soil mix?
            Perlite/rice hulls or the like?
            I think the Pumice stone will take care of that.

            I heard Perlite was not good for no-till. I've been wrong before though!

            Tri_Cho_Me
            Last edited by Tri_Cho_Me; 10-10-2016, 12:15.
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            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333484 My No-Till Adventure

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              #7
              Originally posted by Shovelhandle View Post
              no till? I'd not consider that no-till farming and the benefits of no till farming will not be realized indoors in small vessels.
              10 gallons should work fine. You are correct though, it's a little on the small side. And I know of several indoors no-till gardens that work fine.

              Why don't you think the benefit will be realized?

              Cheers,
              Tri_Cho_Me
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              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=331706 Current/First Grow - Strawberry Kush

              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333484 My No-Till Adventure

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                #8
                I'm working no-till in 5 gallon pots. This is my first run though.

                I was told that it isn't ideal but can definitely work and no-till has been done in pots as small as 3 gallons and it worked.

                Ya pumice instead of perlite, sorry not a native speaker and wasn't aware that pumice is one of the perlite alternatives.

                No earth worm castings though? I thought they are in every good soil mix.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bigbadbiddy View Post
                  I'm working no-till in 5 gallon pots. This is my first run though.

                  I was told that it isn't ideal but can definitely work and no-till has been done in pots as small as 3 gallons and it worked.

                  Ya pumice instead of perlite, sorry not a native speaker and wasn't aware that pumice is one of the perlite alternatives.

                  No earth worm castings though? I thought they are in every good soil mix.
                  No worries on the mix-up! I would rather talk about it now and figure it out then realize down the road I fucked up.

                  The recipe I am using didn't call for any earthworm castings but I have some and can certainly add some in. I guess that's why I'm here. Is that a hole in my recipe? Anyone else have thoughts?

                  Thanks for stopping by bbb!
                  Tri_Cho_Me
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                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=331706 Current/First Grow - Strawberry Kush

                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333484 My No-Till Adventure

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                    #10
                    Definitely add those worm castings. If you can do half castings and half compost for the 1/3 total, that would be great.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BusinessFactory View Post
                      Definitely add those worm castings. If you can do half castings and half compost for the 1/3 total, that would be great.
                      Thank you for the heads up! I will definitely add that to the recipe!

                      Tri_Cho_Me
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                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=331706 Current/First Grow - Strawberry Kush

                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333484 My No-Till Adventure

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                        #12
                        Careful with that much biochar in the raw form.

                        If it is charged first then you should be fine.

                        I would 4x the gypsum. But that's just me and I'm a little crazy...

                        Maybe a little high cal lime to and some more Ca.

                        Everything else looks good. Just gotta be good trainer
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                          #13
                          How much soil does that recipe make?

                          I would do without the worms. They don't make it through a grow. If your plants are root bound the worms start looking for other places to go. Use the castings in place of the worms. Works better.

                          I also suggest you make about four times the amount of soil you are going to need. That way you always have s....oh wait you wanted to do that no till thing. Ok. Well good luck.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by VortexPower420 View Post
                            Careful with that much biochar in the raw form.

                            If it is charged first then you should be fine.

                            I would 4x the gypsum. But that's just me and I'm a little crazy...

                            Maybe a little high cal lime to and some more Ca.

                            Everything else looks good. Just gotta be good trainer
                            I'm not familiar with biochar. I honestly don't even know if I can get it where I live. Haven't had the opportunity to research that one yet.

                            "Maybe a little high cal lime to and some more Ca". I'm not following this. Can you restate without the abbreviations?

                            Thanks!
                            Tri_Cho_Me
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                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=335174 Second Grow / No-Till / Sour Diesel

                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=331706 Current/First Grow - Strawberry Kush

                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333484 My No-Till Adventure

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                              #15
                              Yes your mix is lacking earthworm castings! Oyster shell flour or aragonite for more calcium, same suggestion high cal lime in the above post!
                              Stoner4life we are thinking of you!

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