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  • dramamine
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    Originally posted by BillFarthing View Post
    CalPrime cal-nit is 17-0-0. That is too much nitrogen to additionally supplement with..



    I'd stick with metalosate calcium, Biomin or Growmore flowering cal-mag to bump up calcium in veg/transition outside of cal nit as part of your base.
    I didn't mean he should supplement with it. It's good as a base nutrient with regard to running higher Ca.

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  • BillFarthing
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    I wouldn't sweat micros. Jack's STEM is great, or PlantProd chelated micros are even better. They are absorbed as the plant needs. A good fulvic acid will do the same thing. PlantProd chelated micros are available at Custom Hydro Nutrients.

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  • ButterflyEffect
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    Originally posted by BillFarthing View Post
    CalPrime cal-nit is 17-0-0. That is too much nitrogen to additionally supplement with..



    I'd stick with metalosate calcium, Biomin or Growmore flowering cal-mag to bump up calcium in veg/transition outside of cal nit as part of your base.
    I was thinking it would make a good replacement for base calnit while in flower. I would just use the 15-0-0 for pre-stretch.

    I should finally have my gypsum this week and that just adds another layer of intrigue!

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  • ButterflyEffect
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    Originally posted by dramamine View Post
    It depends on what your other numbers are. Best bet is to get a nutrient calculator like Hydrobuddy and plug your numbers in. Use whichever one puts you where you wanna be.
    I mix my own salts and CalPrime helps me get Ca up without excess N. I run it throughout the cycle.
    I'm using hydrobuddy now. Just got it mostly figured out. I'm running Jacks Hydro and their Calnit but I'm moving toward mixing my own. Frankly getting the micros right is the only thing that's giving me pause. Hoping to figure it out by the time I run out of the Jacks.

    Here's my post-stretch numbers as of today. I adjusted the numbers down a bit. 161-71-211-184-51 @ 1.4EC

    Those numbers include .5G/G of MKP and 60ppm of Biomin Calcium(1-0-0-5)

    Do you have any insight on ratios of the elements at any given phase? What media are you in?

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  • BillFarthing
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    Originally posted by dramamine View Post
    It depends on what your other numbers are. Best bet is to get a nutrient calculator like Hydrobuddy and plug your numbers in. Use whichever one puts you where you wanna be.
    I mix my own salts and CalPrime helps me get Ca up without excess N. I run it throughout the cycle.

    CalPrime cal-nit is 17-0-0. That is too much nitrogen to additionally supplement with..



    I'd stick with metalosate calcium, Biomin or Growmore flowering cal-mag to bump up calcium in veg/transition outside of cal nit as part of your base.

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  • dramamine
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    Originally posted by ButterflyEffect View Post
    Would you consider the 23.5% or the 33% for Ca concentration amounts?

    Looks like a good replacement, or at least one to use after stretch. Looks to be about a $1 more a pound than the Jacks based on what I paid for it last. Not bad for the ratio.
    It depends on what your other numbers are. Best bet is to get a nutrient calculator like Hydrobuddy and plug your numbers in. Use whichever one puts you where you wanna be.
    I mix my own salts and CalPrime helps me get Ca up without excess N. I run it throughout the cycle.

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  • ButterflyEffect
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    Originally posted by dramamine View Post
    You might check out Cal Prime. It's a cal-nit that has a higher proportion of Ca.
    Would you consider the 23.5% or the 33% for Ca concentration amounts?

    Looks like a good replacement, or at least one to use after stretch. Looks to be about a $1 more a pound than the Jacks based on what I paid for it last. Not bad for the ratio.

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  • dramamine
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    Originally posted by Junior Capsula View Post
    That’s what I run Jacks A+B with MKP during flower. Trying to transition from the Cal Nit to a calcium lower in N during flower.
    You might check out Cal Prime. It's a cal-nit that has a higher proportion of Ca.

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  • ButterflyEffect
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    Originally posted by Junior Capsula View Post
    That’s what I run Jacks A+B with MKP during flower. Trying to transition from the Cal Nit to a calcium lower in N during flower.
    Same here. Trying to load with calcium before they hit flower. It's an issue that's haunted me ever since I switched to hempys from soil.

    What's your medium?

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  • ButterflyEffect
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    What are the advantages of the Albion Metalosate compared to the Biomin Calcium?

    Albion is 5-0-0-18

    Biomin liquid is 1-0-0-5

    Biomin powder is 5-0-0-15

    I currently use the Biomin liquid but when I restock I'll be choosing between the Albion or the Biomin powder.

    Also, how does thcis all play out if I want to use gypsum? Do I run any realistic chance of pushing to much Ca?

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  • Junior Capsula
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    That’s what I run Jacks A+B with MKP during flower. Trying to transition from the Cal Nit to a calcium lower in N during flower.

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  • Lyfespan
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    jacks RO plus jacks calnit(boost) and epsom with tap water for coco seems to be really pushing these gals here in veg

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  • Junior Capsula
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    Can I pull the cal nit and just run Jacks A, Albion M. Calcium, and epsom during transition through ripening? The Albion calcium is listed at 4.5% Ca, 18% N.

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  • BillFarthing
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    Originally posted by Junior Capsula View Post
    Albion Metalsolate Calcium . . . is it still safe for foliage during this stage, or can it be used in a drench application?

    You really shouldn't foliar when there are flowers on the plant. I might do insecticidal soap if it was an emergency and wash it off the next day.



    You can definitely still drench with it all the way through 1-2 grams per gallon, although I have the best success at transition.

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  • Junior Capsula
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    Bill I finally got around to breaking out the Albion Metalsolate Calcium. After reading the instructions it only stated instructions for foliage application. I intended on using this in later flower when buds are showing, is it still safe for foliage during this stage, or can it be used in a drench application?

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