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    #301
    Originally posted by Stocktont View Post
    Some sources seem to indicate that the Hmong (or Mong et-al) also were/are called Meo in Thailand. If anyone wants an easy read here’s one link but I suggest as many sources as one can find to try and find the whole picture. The Hmong probably came from south China and some research indicate that they lived there at least since the last Glacier Maximus (ice age). The people spread out to Vietnam, Laos, Burma and Thailand. Both in Thailand and in Vietnam the governments referred to the Hmong people as Meo. In China 55 smaller tribes were all grouped together and called Miao due to the language they spoke. (Miao-Yao/Hmong-Mien)


    https://www.green-trails.com/ethnic-...ng-hill-tribe/

    Thats what springs to mind for me stocktont ,
    ive never heard the term meo hilltribes ,
    but hmong hilltribes ive seen plenty of ,
    their customary clothing is hard to miss ,and there is always plenty of them around the markets in chang mai etc ...



    theres a village i was taken too outside of chang mai with a few ethnic groups from across the border living , among them were the long neck people,
    that area is quite diverse as far as having quite a few ethnicity s inhabiting it ..



    A friend in central thailand shared some seed with me that i noted got called hmong thai ,

    though i didnt know it as that , maybe the guys calling it spoke to my friend , he was online here , i dont know , but it is still doing the rounds as far as i know , which is cool ,
    except that the story of where it came from has sadly disappeared .. some credit should be given to the original source i think ,, the seeds were free , and as far as i know they are now being sold , with no story of origin .. that saddens me ..

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      #302
      Originally posted by Donald Mallard View Post
      Thats what springs to mind for me stocktont ,
      ive never heard the term meo hilltribes ,
      but hmong hilltribes ive seen plenty of ,
      their customary clothing is hard to miss ,and there is always plenty of them around the markets in chang mai etc ...



      theres a village i was taken too outside of chang mai with a few ethnic groups from across the border living , among them were the long neck people,
      that area is quite diverse as far as having quite a few ethnicity s inhabiting it ..



      A friend in central thailand shared some seed with me that i noted got called hmong thai ,

      though i didnt know it as that , maybe the guys calling it spoke to my friend , he was online here , i dont know , but it is still doing the rounds as far as i know , which is cool ,
      except that the story of where it came from has sadly disappeared .. some credit should be given to the original source i think ,, the seeds were free , and as far as i know they are now being sold , with no story of origin .. that saddens me ..

      I have heard a lot of stories and seen a lot of seed stories and lines being called first one of those tribal names with the ”thai” tag at the end and to me it’s always a tell-tell sign of a waffle story.

      Their cloths are hard to miss for sure, some westerners buy them and go to all kinds of places like down south wearing those cloths thinking they have some national thai suit on or something, it’s funny. Lots of the tribe people go to other parts of the country and in most of the sources I read now this morning there’s also mentioning of Hmong people (mostly from Vietnam) going over to America after the Vietnam war, they particularly helped US forces in Laos but after 1975 that was no more.

      Central Thailand as in just north of Bangkok?

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        #303
        Originally posted by Stocktont View Post
        well this story puts the production of ”the real” thai sticks in Chiangmai and Chiangrai area and not the north east (Isaan) area. The Meo tribe had the governments eyes on them since the early 60s due to politics and opium production amongst other reasons. Colorful writing though…

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        So these are the pictures from 1977 that have supposedly been taken in Chiang Mai. That's worlds away from Isaan.





        Those look like classic Thai stick to me. The one at the back looks like it could be an elephant stick..
        We all have our crosses and IBLs to carry.
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          #304
          I am also in the camp of no. Adding somthing to a product without getting paid for it, becuse nobody has stated (that i know of) they paid more for the dipped sticks then they did for the regular stick's. Like the saying goes "if you whant to know the truth follow the money" just my opinion.
          “Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.”

          Steve McQueen

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            #305
            Originally posted by Thule View Post

            So these are the pictures from 1977 that have supposedly been taken in Chiang Mai. That's worlds away from Isaan.





            Those look like classic Thai stick to me. The one at the back looks like it could be an elephant stick..

            I don’t really understand if you are telling me something or asking me something, I have no idea where those pictures were taken, do you? I don’t recall me saying anything about where those pictures were taken, I was talking about the tribes that were mentioned, and I said ”this story puts the production of thai sticks…” I didn’t say I said it was so. And yes, Chiangmai is not Isaan.
            Last edited by Stocktont; 03-04-2021, 17:13.

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              #306
              Originally posted by Stocktont View Post


              I don’t really understand if you are telling me something or asking me something, I have no idea where those pictures were taken, do you? I don’t recall me saying anything about where those pictures were taken, I was talking about the tribes that were mentioned, and I said ”this story puts the production of thai sticks…” I didn’t say I said it was so. And yes, Chiangmai is not Isaan.
              I just dug up those old pictures that would seem to back up the "Thai sticks came from Chiang Mai theory", is all.
              We all have our crosses and IBLs to carry.
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                #307
                Originally posted by Thule View Post

                I just dug up those old pictures that would seem to back up the "Thai sticks came from Chiang Mai theory", is all.
                Ok so the pictures are from Chiangmai then?

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                  #308
                  Originally posted by Stocktont View Post

                  Ok so the pictures are from Chiangmai then?
                  That's what it said where I found the picture.
                  We all have our crosses and IBLs to carry.
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                    #309
                    Originally posted by Stocktont View Post


                    I have heard a lot of stories and seen a lot of seed stories and lines being called first one of those tribal names with the ”thai” tag at the end and to me it’s always a tell-tell sign of a waffle story.

                    Their cloths are hard to miss for sure, some westerners buy them and go to all kinds of places like down south wearing those cloths thinking they have some national thai suit on or something, it’s funny. Lots of the tribe people go to other parts of the country and in most of the sources I read now this morning there’s also mentioning of Hmong people (mostly from Vietnam) going over to America after the Vietnam war, they particularly helped US forces in Laos but after 1975 that was no more.

                    Central Thailand as in just north of Bangkok?
                    My buddy prof lived in Phitsonalok , its a nice little city of about 1 million people ,
                    barely any tourism , so the only farangs are ones stopping in busses etc on the way to chang mai ,
                    i quite dislike the tourist areas there , i prefer to go where other farangs dont go ...

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                      #310
                      Originally posted by Thule View Post

                      That's what it said where I found the picture.
                      i saw that and pondered if its not the grow done by some americans that was mentioned in the book ,
                      it may not have been sticked up , just been loose bud ,
                      im reasonably sure its where they say due to the surrounding jungle ...

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                        #311
                        Was never thinking that the plants on that pic was grown by Americans.Good looking plants.
                        sigpic
                        In volcanic soil we trust

                        Whether your checkin out bud porn or regular porn from 1975, you wont catch anyone trimming thier bush
                        BTW that pluton sucked. We grew it outside-looked awesome, smelled great, everything but when dried, it had 0% high.
                        I see it as a kind of wonder drug of our time - Dr.Lester Grinspoon
                        In 1895, ‘Arabs . . . Armenians
                        [and] Turks’ grew Cannabis indica in central California to supply hash
                        to compatriots in San Francisco, and to smoke ‘kiff’ themselves.
                        Additionally, the u.s. army planted
                        marijuana in Panama in the 1920s for testing its effects on soldiers
                        The Dutch paid the Khoisan in 1713 with drugs rather than
                        food, goods or cash.
                        For the purposes of this research, Roger Adams had obtained red oil extract of the plant legally from the United States Department of the Treasury

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                          #312
                          Was never thinking that the plants on that pic was grown by Americans.Good looking plants.
                          sigpic
                          In volcanic soil we trust

                          Whether your checkin out bud porn or regular porn from 1975, you wont catch anyone trimming thier bush
                          BTW that pluton sucked. We grew it outside-looked awesome, smelled great, everything but when dried, it had 0% high.
                          I see it as a kind of wonder drug of our time - Dr.Lester Grinspoon
                          In 1895, ‘Arabs . . . Armenians
                          [and] Turks’ grew Cannabis indica in central California to supply hash
                          to compatriots in San Francisco, and to smoke ‘kiff’ themselves.
                          Additionally, the u.s. army planted
                          marijuana in Panama in the 1920s for testing its effects on soldiers
                          The Dutch paid the Khoisan in 1713 with drugs rather than
                          food, goods or cash.
                          For the purposes of this research, Roger Adams had obtained red oil extract of the plant legally from the United States Department of the Treasury

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                            #313
                            Never came on my mind that the plants on that pic was grown by Americans.Good looking plants.
                            sigpic
                            In volcanic soil we trust

                            Whether your checkin out bud porn or regular porn from 1975, you wont catch anyone trimming thier bush
                            BTW that pluton sucked. We grew it outside-looked awesome, smelled great, everything but when dried, it had 0% high.
                            I see it as a kind of wonder drug of our time - Dr.Lester Grinspoon
                            In 1895, ‘Arabs . . . Armenians
                            [and] Turks’ grew Cannabis indica in central California to supply hash
                            to compatriots in San Francisco, and to smoke ‘kiff’ themselves.
                            Additionally, the u.s. army planted
                            marijuana in Panama in the 1920s for testing its effects on soldiers
                            The Dutch paid the Khoisan in 1713 with drugs rather than
                            food, goods or cash.
                            For the purposes of this research, Roger Adams had obtained red oil extract of the plant legally from the United States Department of the Treasury

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                              #314
                              Yea maybe not , they are good looking plants ..

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                                #315
                                Was it not grown by the Thai military?
                                sigpic
                                In volcanic soil we trust

                                Whether your checkin out bud porn or regular porn from 1975, you wont catch anyone trimming thier bush
                                BTW that pluton sucked. We grew it outside-looked awesome, smelled great, everything but when dried, it had 0% high.
                                I see it as a kind of wonder drug of our time - Dr.Lester Grinspoon
                                In 1895, ‘Arabs . . . Armenians
                                [and] Turks’ grew Cannabis indica in central California to supply hash
                                to compatriots in San Francisco, and to smoke ‘kiff’ themselves.
                                Additionally, the u.s. army planted
                                marijuana in Panama in the 1920s for testing its effects on soldiers
                                The Dutch paid the Khoisan in 1713 with drugs rather than
                                food, goods or cash.
                                For the purposes of this research, Roger Adams had obtained red oil extract of the plant legally from the United States Department of the Treasury

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