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    Growdoc breeds from seed. Growdoc still maintains a few ibls.
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      Just a quick macro/pic of my original haze.

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        Hey Sam,

        One thing on the section of your evaluation Sheet:

        20 Yield Sun___Artificial___ (check one)
        _____1000 Grams per Square Meter-10
        _____750 Grams per Square Meter-6
        _____500 Grams per Square Meter-3
        _____250 Grams per Square Meter-1
        Yield____________________
        Number of plants per Square Meter________


        You only assign 10 points to these section, but there are other 10 points that doesn't appear. Where they in another section? I am finish with the Web Interface except for these small issue which I would like to solve.

        Many thanks for your time.
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        Grows: Shiva Shanti, White widow (Sensi), BubbleGum (Serious Seeds), DSD (Reservoir), BubblegumxDSD (myself), Super Silver Haze, Neville Haze (MrNice), HashBerry (Mandala)
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        Fridge: Neville Haze, NL5xHZ, Black Widow, Afghan Haze (MrNice), Skunk#1, NL, O. Haze, Afghan#1, Mama Thai (Seedsman), Love Potion#1, Double Skunk (Refeerman), Hashberry (Mandala), Snowdog BX1, Chemdog BX2, DSD (Reservoir) Manala, Mazar-i-Sharif (RSC) O. HazexSkunk#1 (SamS) HashberryxNevilleHaze, BubblegumxDSD (myself)
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          Here's macro of my original haze.


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            mat
            damn that haze is fine lookin.shit now thats haze big up .cant wait for a smoke report .

            originalll
            in NYC around my way we say if it anint church it anint fire
            more incense and less nonsense

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              Can seedlings be selected by "Early Onset Aroma?

              Sam, do Haze and other Sativa dominant seed lines display the same early onset aroma's as many of the Indica crosses?

              When many seeds are available, could the easiest method to thin the ranks be culling every seedling that can't pass a "sniff test"? Is “early onset aroma” a useful selection tool when making filial breeding decisions?

              Do seedlings with no aroma, or smelling like a haystack or lawn, have a smaller likelihood of being as strong, or stronger, or better medicine, than its’ sibling seedlings that smell like a skunk, pine tree, orange, or mango?
              ( D.J. Short and others have noted that some smells are linked to “good” breeding results, while other aromas often result in negative outcomes. )

              We're aware of one experiment on F-3 crosses that tested for scent several times between 4 and 8 inches tall. About 18% - 20% of the seedlings expressed either a “positive” smell, or a general "stink". The rest had either no aroma, or smelled of grass and hay. ( Unfortunately, when those selected seedlings were sexed and seperated, the male pollen was saved, but the females, intended to produce another batch of seeds, were lost to "unforseen circumstances". Outdoor agriculture has it's drawbacks )

              What's your opinion? Have you ever tried this method? If 80% of the seeds can be eliminated, it could prove to be a great filial breeding shortcut.

              Or, is this just another dead-end that sounds reasonable but isn't a reliable strategy in the real world of breeding or botany?

              Thanks for your help.

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                I've noticed original haze doesn't smell much when you rubb the stem in seedling/early veg stage apart from a slight grass/hay aroma .
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                  hmm, no smell at all in veg?

                  that's my next quest i think, a stinkless hazeish vegger that has some potent final buds! super low odor.

                  the piffy girl i've been growing started stinking at like 2-3 inches tall from seedling, and the smell just got stronger when it got more and more leaves. just standing still and not being bothered it emits skunk spray odor within it's general area, but stem rubs gives you a more intense nose tingling scent, kinda like a mix of skunk piss/fresh wet celery and menthol (nose in a jar of vicks vapor rub) on your finger. sort of like a cool peppermint patty. it changes though as it gets bigger, it constantly changes, but it never goes away, lol. just gets stronger.

                  this is a good question, i'm curious too - does early stink = good/better final result?

                  is there a stinkless variety that kicks ass?

                  what do your other veggin strains smell like, or you only grow original haze?

                  xoox
                  xOOx's fluro fiesta!

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                    I can smell a vegetative Haze, but I do not use smell of vegetative plants to assist breeding. Now smells of flowering plants is a different matter. But to be honest it is not the smell as much as how the smells effect the high, when smoked.

                    -SamS

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                      hmm!

                      you think that the different smells effect the high, because of user-subjectiveness to thinking 'wow this smells so good, it's got to be good!', or the fact that the presense of certain canibinoid combinations emit consistant disctinct odors? what exactly does haze smell like, indescribable? i've heard sandlewood, etc. i still have no idea what this sandlewood smells like. lol.

                      this is interesting, because i've mentioned before when she is in full bloom, the odors are similar to veg odors, just much more intense. sometimes rotten to sweet/sour to garlickish/skunky i guess, n then peppery spicey, and the fumes are without a doubt intoxicating. roughing a cola a bit and sniffing a few times and you are left with a mild euphoric sensation that may last 30-40 minutes (like valium feeling, not high or stoned, just relaxed and happy) and generally will leave you in an uplifted mood for hours and hours afterwards, just from the flowering fumes! most will probably think this is bs, but it does effect me in this way. i've sniffed it and walked away trying not to think about it, to see if it's real or in my head, and i always get the same sensations afterwards. i can take a few good sniffs in the morning, and off too work with the plastic smile feeling like a summers day at the beach. just feeling really good inside.

                      i always thought the stink was to ward off animals or bugs that may decide to have a munch on the plant in the wild. a rabbit or deer takes one sniff, don't eat that one! it's POISON. lol. the fumes must contain some type of warning signals to predators. keep away! whatever she is, a skunk is in her for sure to some degree. and skunks stink for a reason!

                      xoox
                      xOOx's fluro fiesta!

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                        I love to rub stems. When I was a lil kiddo I used to rub the stems of my fathers plants that were on a window in the attic, small seedlings but just cant forget the smell. Plants were from colombia, too bad the old guys dont have those anymore. My haze mother smells a lot like those plants...I mean her stem..lol. OHaze x ST#3 thats a thread about a cross I made using Undegrounds ST#3 male, a very vigorous male that hasnt freaked, hermied or nothing and is a smelly guy anyway, my OHaze is the mother...UG is testing the f1 cross right now, lets see what happens..
                        Last edited by Farmer John; 05-07-2008, 08:21.

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                          i hav som ssh n mmg in veg n its stank im hopin ther both ladies.the ssh is a stronger smell but mmg seems to hav a bit more hazy smell.

                          does a strong smell in veg mean more likely a female?

                          wen i think of haze smell i first think incense then catpiss n spicey then sour n then soap som is floral som has an astrigent quality sometimes even dark chocolate but first thought is def frankincense. [sandalwood] the wood of s.asian evergreen burned as incenese.
                          in NYC around my way we say if it anint church it anint fire
                          more incense and less nonsense

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                            big herb your talking about that heights haze, I grew the mmg and it was hazey but not in the way ny haze is it had that mango fruity haze smell that they talk about in amsterdam and other places.mmg is definately a good solid strain with moderate yield, I just got some bangi haze and am hopeing to find a frank's smelling pheno. alot of people consider haze that fruity type smell, not that sandalwood, frankies, basement smelling haze. If you grew out any strains that have that heights smell let me know, very much appreciated
                            peace
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                              one more thing big herb from what i've been told and my short experience males stink more, but i hope i'm wrong in your case

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                                loyalty
                                thx brother best of luck finding da father in bangi .wats the makeup of this bangi?
                                no grows from uppies but a needle in da haystack surprising single seed im holding 4 a diff setup

                                .i hav the 12xweek pheno pack of mmg da more hazy pheno i only popped 4 so im hoping 4 aleast 2 keepers .honestly ive never com across a fruity haze in da hood except a weak purple haze which was a dark grapey taste and bluberry haze which was a def cross but was ill som of the sicker haze ive blazed, real bluberry wit a hazey backround .with the exception of amsterdam mango haze n cannalope haze ,but most of da dam hazes seem soapy to me n weak in comparison to da uptowns.
                                Last edited by bigherb; 05-07-2008, 13:12.
                                in NYC around my way we say if it anint church it anint fire
                                more incense and less nonsense

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