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    What was the photoperiod at the time of planting and growing?
    I ask because growing Skunk#1 in the tropics is not the best use, try late Sativas like O Haze.
    I can get one kilo from each and any Skunk #1 I grow in the ground, as much as two Kg.
    But they do not veg and flower in 4 months or 16 weeks, they do take longer to get to this size. I plant seeds in the spring and harvest in early Oct in Calif.
    Sorry you had bad results... Skunk #1 is one of the easiest plants to grow, if you are not on the equator.

    -SamS

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      Jeez Sam, I'd love to see some pics of those two kilo Skunks!!!

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        Originally posted by British_Hempire
        Jeez Sam, I'd love to see some pics of those two kilo Skunks!!!
        So do I !!!
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          Thanks for the info guys, u know I would hate to bug u sam thats y I was asking anyone who knew FOR REAL!! So thanks BH for breaking it down for me. Theres so much info here and there its hard to always search and find the correct story (tho I admit I didnt try this time lol) So thanks again, more knowlege is spread -- ya cant feel too bad about that!!!

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            Greetings Sam,

            The photoperiod in which the beans were grown was 12/12, they germed in april 06´, here we are at the n. hemisphere, so summer solstice is on june 22th if memory does not fail me and you get 12 hours and 40 mins. of light per day; while winter is december 22th + o - and you get around 11 hours and 55 minutes of light...
            the plants were ready by mid august. the temperatures here are interesting though, during the day, after 11am up to 4pm, temperatures are hot, 25-30 degrees C. at night temps can go down as low as 10 degrees C or less, but usually stay between the 16-20 range the rest of the hours. not all were planted on the ground though, half and half, wanted to see how they were going to do in pots vs. ground. humidity varies a lot, can be completely saturated or be 40%, depends on the day...
            a lot seeds behave this way here though, so I´ve come to learn it has to do with the photoperiod and specifics of the local climates etc...
            and yes, you are right, more late maturing sativas do better here, like swazis, malawis, and the late more pure sativas I have found in colombian brick weed.
            from what I read, haze would do well most likely too.

            much peace,

            best regards,

            Pvr.
            Last edited by PazVerdeRadical; 03-12-2008, 13:09.
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              Originally posted by TomHill
              I picked up 4-5 15 packs of "original haze" from positronics in '95,

              the majority of Thai dominant citrus Haze I seemed to have aquired? Is this so?

              , the haze I have when it is on, can not be compared to by anything I have ever encountered, ever.
              Much Respect,
              Tom
              pretty much what i get from your line. lots of Lime citrus plants, with a few woody earthen plants. get alot of foxtails, but from your pics and others, prolly due to the grow OP.

              1 to 2 purp plants in a 10 pack, with 70 to 80% female ratio as well, which has come out in the next generations as well, even with small populations.

              heavy calyx, loads of frost, and a very nice head which lasts easy 3 hrs. and when i say im high for 3 hrs, its a continueing head with lots of spaceyness, many things goin on in my head. the 3hr thing does not include the comedown, your high for a long time.

              some plants need 11/13 10/14 to flip, but most all with flip under 12/12. finishin anywhere from 16 to 20 weeks.

              easily one of my favorite smokes.

              one other point, this is one of the few so called original haze where we can easily trace back to the haze bros, no guessin, no BS, its the real deal.
              Last edited by expat; 03-12-2008, 13:13.

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                We all have our crosses and IBLs to carry.

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                  I just put in an order for Original Haze, can't wait to grow it out! I'm sure I'll be more than pleased.
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                    THE ORIGINAL HAZE!!!!

                    great taste!!!, nice high , and even some purple there to be found..

                    NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      lots of Lime citrus plants, with a few woody earthen plants.
                      I'm far from being a Haze expert, but I've grown a couple of versions of Colombian Gold, woody, earthen describes their taste pretty well, nutty, sandalwood, incense type tastes too. The Colombians have quite dark foliage too in my experience, so I would think that the woody, earthen Hazes are Colombian phenos.


                      I've never smoked Acapulco Gold, but I'm guessing that is where the lime/citrus comes from largely as I've heard it described that way a few times.

                      Without knowing what Thai(s) are in Haze, no idea about the Thai influence, I've smoked fruity Thais and earthy, woody Thais.

                      How does skunk #1 in your opinion echo the different strains you used in creating it? You said you back crossed the colombian x afgani to a mexican strain, don't remember which one.. Is it the mexican that contributes the most to the overall high?
                      At a guess, I'd say it's the Mexican that is dominant as Skunk is very sweet and a little fruity and I've never heard a Colombian variety described as sweet or fruity. Maybe some of the sweetness/fruitiness comes from the Mazar? Afghans can taste sweet, I've smoked some that were like mangoes or melons, then again, some are really funky and not sweet at all.

                      One thing I'm wandering Sam, are the Colombian and Acapulco used in Skunk in any way related to any of the sativas that wenmt into Haze?

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                        Hola BH, have a Highland Oaxacan which is a nice fruity/citrus line, and it is probably the best yieldin sativa ive grown. nice large tight buds.

                        i dont pretend to be able to tell phenotypes within a haze population, have heard the columbian is responsible for the purple, although the oaxacan will have a bit of purple come in with the right conditions. id imagine the extreme foxtailin comes from the Thai, but have seen many different plants do it as well. id of thought the good yielders is were the mex comes in, along with the fruityness.

                        as you said, there are darker plants, which do favor givin off the earthen/musky/woody aromas, and the lighter greens, almost lookin like they need fed, toss the fruity/citrus/lime. from what ive grown, i prefer the lime/citrus plants, seem to have the nicer head.

                        havent quite figured out the Silver Blue plants ive heard of, maybe none in the Haze i grow. one id like to find though.

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                          Originally posted by PazVerdeRadical
                          Greetings Sam,

                          The photoperiod in which the beans were grown was 12/12, they germed in april 06´, here we are at the n. hemisphere, so summer solstice is on june 22th if memory does not fail me and you get 12 hours and 40 mins. of light per day; while winter is december 22th + o - and you get around 11 hours and 55 minutes of light...
                          the plants were ready by mid august. the temperatures here are interesting though, during the day, after 11am up to 4pm, temperatures are hot, 25-30 degrees C. at night temps can go down as low as 10 degrees C or less, but usually stay between the 16-20 range the rest of the hours. not all were planted on the ground though, half and half, wanted to see how they were going to do in pots vs. ground. humidity varies a lot, can be completely saturated or be 40%, depends on the day...
                          a lot seeds behave this way here though, so I´ve come to learn it has to do with the photoperiod and specifics of the local climates etc...
                          and yes, you are right, more late maturing sativas do better here, like swazis, malawis, and the late more pure sativas I have found in colombian brick weed.
                          from what I read, haze would do well most likely too.

                          much peace,

                          best regards,

                          Pvr.
                          hay paz , ive grown skunks and early maturing varieties in similar conditions , u are right they will flower fast , but in perfect conditions u can get up to a pound on them though 2 - 6 ounces is more likely ,, if you cross them with the later maturing sativas u can get something that gets some nice size and still will mature early .. need some legs on those gals closer to the equator to yeild well ...
                          heres some oaxacan from this year , they were short and fast maturing ..


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                            Are you guys sure that you need a 10/14 light cycle to get some hazes o flip? That doesn't sound right to me. You have to go almost up to 35N, to get nights that long in the dead of winter. That doesn't fit to me. It certainly isn't a tropical trait and yhe haze bros grew that far north, but didn't breed it long enough to make it do that.

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                              Happy growing
                              Last edited by Chamba; 04-08-2008, 03:11.

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                                u guys just need strains that are a little more sativa than indica with the earlier ones ,, then u will do better in places that have shorter days ...
                                also the plants cannot afford any set backs , just one set back can cost u a few ounces at the harvest ....

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