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    #16
    Originally posted by PDX Dopesmoker View Post
    I got this one from africaseeds through the grapvine.
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    I'm sure its a kick ass plant for growing outdoors in South Africa, but here it flowers late in the season and it picks up fungus once the weather gets cool and damp. I've grown out four females so far and they've all gone the same way, flowers nicely for about 8 weeks and then fungus goes crazy on it and messes it up, so I hybridized it with a polyhybrid autoflower in hopes of eventually getting to flower the stuff at a less cool and damp time of year when I can get it to go longer than 8 weeks.
    have you sampled it at 8 weeks, what´s it like? not too great I imagine.

    making your own autos .... cool!

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      #17
      Originally posted by Cuddles View Post
      have you sampled it at 8 weeks, what´s it like? not too great I imagine.

      making your own autos .... cool!
      Its pretty good stuff. It has a nice flavor and a good high, and it but there isn't much resin on the plant overall at 8 weeks because the buds are so lightweight, and thats probably attributable to the 8 weeks occurring across Sept, Oct, Nov when some of the days are useless and its too cold a lot of the time. I wouldn't bother trying to make an auto version if I didn't think the original version was a good plant. Its also pretty safe to guess that nobody in South Africa would've bothered growing it to begin with if it wasn't a good plant, whatever trouble it has growing in Oregon probably had to do with the local climate.

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        #18
        Originally posted by PDX Dopesmoker View Post
        Its pretty good stuff. It has a nice flavor and a good high, and it but there isn't much resin on the plant overall at 8 weeks because the buds are so lightweight, and thats probably attributable to the 8 weeks occurring across Sept, Oct, Nov when some of the days are useless and its too cold a lot of the time. I wouldn't bother trying to make an auto version if I didn't think the original version was a good plant. Its also pretty safe to guess that nobody in South Africa would've bothered growing it to begin with if it wasn't a good plant, whatever trouble it has growing in Oregon probably had to do with the local climate.
        living in a cold climate kind of sucks.

        The other day I found one last seed from last year in my fridge. It´s lowryder auto and I´m thinking of popping it and putting it by my the window.

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          #19
          Originally posted by PDX Dopesmoker View Post
          I got this one from africaseeds through the grapvine.
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          I'm sure its a kick ass plant for growing outdoors in South Africa, but here it flowers late in the season and it picks up fungus once the weather gets cool and damp. I've grown out four females so far and they've all gone the same way, flowers nicely for about 8 weeks and then fungus goes crazy on it and messes it up, so I hybridized it with a polyhybrid autoflower in hopes of eventually getting to flower the stuff at a less cool and damp time of year when I can get it to go longer than 8 weeks.
          Hehe really cool which one is that?
          Keen to hear where you got it. You can send me a dm on IG my username is africaseeds

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            #20
            Hi Africaseeds,

            To really unselect some aromas that you dislike for example it would be better to use its genetic as a male pole i think. Play the female selection for the terps declinaison i mean... If the cross is with indica in this way you can easier develop bigger stucture too but in the other hand the flo time should be longer.

            I think that female (terps) x male (stucture) as a generally way of mind for breeding perspective but of course there's always some surprises and stronger genetics that can surpass others and break the general first combinaison expected. (indica often surpass sativa from my experience)

            Anyway there's also some good fruity/honey things to find in Africa, for sure in minority and its selection is hard from landrace but doing pure tasty African F1 is possible and represents really cool projects! Things like my last Zamb (tropical fruity bubble) x Swaz (spicy coca cola) ya but many many more things to create and develop in the terpeny Afro vibes.

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              #21
              Originally posted by grayeyes View Post
              Why would anyone take a wonderful african sativa and want to fuck it up by hybridizing?

              I don't get it.
              must be cuz it's weak? And long flower

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                #22
                Originally posted by Roms View Post
                Hi Africaseeds,

                To really unselect some aromas that you dislike for example it would be better to use its genetic as a male pole i think. Play the female selection for the terps declinaison i mean... If the cross is with indica in this way you can easier develop bigger stucture too but in the other hand the flo time should be longer.

                I think that female (terps) x male (stucture) as a generally way of mind for breeding perspective but of course there's always some surprises and stronger genetics that can surpass others and break the general first combinaison expected. (indica often surpass sativa from my experience)

                Anyway there's also some good fruity/honey things to find in Africa, for sure in minority and its selection is hard from landrace but doing pure tasty African F1 is possible and represents really cool projects! Things like my last Zamb (tropical fruity bubble) x Swaz (spicy coca cola) ya but many many more things to create and develop in the terpeny Afro vibes.
                Thanks that makes sense. I'm gonna try that approach you mentioned to have the african sativa as a male. I actually made a cross like that using a Rooibaard male. I did )Sour Apple Truffle from terpfi3nd x Tree of Life Bx from Cannabeizen) x Rooibaard (male). I still need to grow them out

                There used to be a Chocolate Swazi around here back in the day. Wish I could find that now!
                Normal swazi is also cool but yeah got a spicey smell.

                Some African sativas just plain have really gross tasting bitter terps and some don't even smell good, they just burn your nose.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by africaseeds View Post

                  Some African sativas just plain have really gross tasting bitter terps and some don't even smell good, they just burn your nose.
                  Ya the pepper dark aroma is strong with African strains but thanks to landrace diversity there's also some few others smooth spicy or fruity ones in a same strain, but yes harder to find for sure, good grow bro chances are!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Cuddles View Post
                    living in a cold climate kind of sucks.

                    The other day I found one last seed from last year in my fridge. It´s lowryder auto and I´m thinking of popping it and putting it by my the window.
                    I started some autos in a little plastic tent at the beginning of Feb last year, they ended up taking a few weeks longer than the same strain does during the summer, but it worked out. Indoors, I've been transplanting my males and growing them in the window sill with a little grow lamp on them after they show sex. They turn their foliage to face the window regardless the presence of the lamp, so I guess growing a plant in the window might even yield something more than it's entertainment value.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by africaseeds View Post
                      Hehe really cool which one is that?
                      Keen to hear where you got it. You can send me a dm on IG my username is africaseeds
                      These were the labels in the two bags I got


                      I forget which was label was which type, but the other one I got was that flavor that you say you don't like. That stuff is some of the best weed I ever grew or smoked, you can fix other strains by crossing it with that one. The group of seeds I got with that flavor had a fast finishing pheno & a longer one. I'm hoping to separate the two of those eventually, but I only got one male from 13 seeds the first year I grew them so I might be stuck with whatever type that guy was. I think he was probably the longer type because I got 3 of 4 longer flowering females the 2nd year I grew them.

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                        #26
                        My tashkenti didn't taste great and the cross I made with island sweet skunk didn't either, but my God the colas!

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                          #27
                          Nice that came from here. Came from kilo's of unlabeled stuff from Swaziland that we sorted.
                          Here is the pic of one of the buds we got it from.

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                            #28
                            Hello AfricaSeeds!!


                            Very nice to read about make hybrids. Im more to OTH & Honduras from Ace Seeds about exotic smell and taste and very good high but as you ask about african strains the only I tried is Etiopia from Ace Seeds and Malawi Gold from RSC, but Malawi Gold from RSC didnt have bite taste, in fact was so good, like spicy earth "oil" smell if that make sense. No "marijuana" smell. Only complain is the low smell they have. You need to stay less than 1 meter to smell it, and when you smell, is not like typical marijuana smell.


                            About the Etiopia strain from Ace Seeds I have to admit is not the most refined smell, not strongly bad, but far away from OTH fruit smell or wood incense exotics smells. If you want to improve the taste, dont go to Etiopia. The high was good, but taste not.




                            I think you can cross Malawi Gold to other strains and select for this good taste and smell. But if you want stronger smell, Malawi Gold is not good choice.




                            Hope it helps, wish you luck!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by ankhori View Post
                              Hello AfricaSeeds!!


                              Very nice to read about make hybrids. Im more to OTH & Honduras from Ace Seeds about exotic smell and taste and very good high but as you ask about african strains the only I tried is Etiopia from Ace Seeds and Malawi Gold from RSC, but Malawi Gold from RSC didnt have bite taste, in fact was so good, like spicy earth "oil" smell if that make sense. No "marijuana" smell. Only complain is the low smell they have. You need to stay less than 1 meter to smell it, and when you smell, is not like typical marijuana smell.


                              About the Etiopia strain from Ace Seeds I have to admit is not the most refined smell, not strongly bad, but far away from OTH fruit smell or wood incense exotics smells. If you want to improve the taste, dont go to Etiopia. The high was good, but taste not.




                              I think you can cross Malawi Gold to other strains and select for this good taste and smell. But if you want stronger smell, Malawi Gold is not good choice.




                              Hope it helps, wish you luck!
                              Thanks I'll give that a try. I actually have a big amount of Malawi Gold I got from someone recently. Growing up I had malawi gold once and it stank up my whole room, almost like how people describe RKS.

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                                #30
                                I made Special Malawi Gold.

                                It's a 3-way hybrid of 3 Malawi types using 2 Malawi Gold (African Seeds) males from a very old seed pack pollinating another Malawi hybrid.

                                Normally, crossing an Indica with a Sativa makes a good hybrid.
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