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    #31
    I came to this thread to find out what's the newest, hottest strain right now, but all I got were some "everything was better back then" vibes.
    If it was we would be smoking it right now.

    Covid blues?
    ( Grow1 ,Grow2)

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      #32
      Originally posted by Hempsmoke View Post
      I came to this thread to find out what's the newest, hottest strain right now, but all I got were some "everything was better back then" vibes.
      If it was we would be smoking it right now.

      Covid blues?

      LOL, Most of us back then did not grow from clones. Very few even knew how to grow indoor. Most that did it was crap. Those that grew the same clone did not share them outside of a small circle. Many of us old heads have passed on with all their genetics. There was a lot more diversity in the seeds we got from imported weed. Nothing was Cookies. Today a lot of the gene pool is bottlenecked. Most are on the easy breeding track. Going back to real breeding takes too long for most. All you get today is something cookies.

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        #33
        Just take a look of my work and you will know what could be a long lasting tasty positive high and i'm still modest ya, some who already tried my seeds speaks of legend but it is only the beginning, patience ^^ Peace

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          #34
          look at lucky dog seed co,all original chemdog crosses ,lots with the famous chem 91

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            #35
            Originally posted by Hempsmoke View Post
            I came to this thread to find out what's the newest, hottest strain right now, but all I got were some "everything was better back then" vibes.
            If it was we would be smoking it right now.

            Covid blues?
            The wholesale pot prices in Cali thread is a good way to get the gist of which strains are currently popular
            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....73666&page=719

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              #36
              looks up Hammerhead genetics..... all OG crosses, but holds his nose at cookies.... lol i kid i kid..

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                #37
                Originally posted by clearheaded View Post
                looks up Hammerhead genetics..... all OG crosses, but holds his nose at cookies.... lol i kid i kid..
                You must think everything is OG. I have zero OG in my garden. I have zero cookies in may garden. I love OG. Cookies is a shit OG IMO.. I haven't messed with an OG cut in about 3 years. Cookies are not part of anything Ive worked on in the last 3 years+. Knowing if cookies is part of the genetics we get is the hardest part since everyone added cookies at some point. Its all Haze hybrid work for the last year. I'm trying to breed that crap out. Id never use cookies again ever. I do not categorize cookies as something good to breed with its garbage breeding material. Don't get confused with real OG like TK or similar. Putting cookies in the OG category is a mistake IMO. It should get its own category. Everything in my garden but the white Truffle was made and selected by me.
                Last edited by Hammerhead; 02-25-2021, 19:10.

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                  #38
                  thought flashbang has MAC? aka miracle alien cookies. white larryXamber cookies obv cookies. maybe ur dif then hammerhead genetics? fruity pebbles OG crossed to sunset (imagine cookies cross or at least has OG). i just see 1 variety for sale that has a very small amount of OG for sale but good chunk with cookies and rest OG 3 of teh 6 for sale are cookies crosses..

                  u grow and breed more then i ever will but just pointing out little bit of hipocrocey.. but yes I consider everything that has the fuely smell and is a cross with OG kush i consider og. obv some are more lemon, sour or sweet or nutty coffee or fuel but still easy to know it is chem/og line. and ya so everything is OG in the market by and large and why I agree with you saying its a bottleneck . why people use it is the distinct loud fuel. prob never tried a real cookie cut but seeds, but although some differences def what i have tried has fuel/og smell. but beside the point..

                  anyhoo, point being, called out others for breeding with cookies but do exactly the same thing. all love think have some fire looking gear and would love to try oneday. just thought it was funny is all even if they are old beans, its whats out there atm... all good, awesome moving away from that and doing HAZE hybrids and making some unique selections..

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by clearheaded View Post
                    thought flashbang has MAC? aka miracle alien cookies. white larryXamber cookies obv cookies. maybe ur dif then hammerhead genetics? fruity pebbles OG crossed to sunset (imagine cookies cross or at least has OG). i just see 1 variety for sale that has a very small amount of OG for sale but good chunk with cookies and rest OG 3 of teh 6 for sale are cookies crosses..

                    u grow and breed more then i ever will but just pointing out little bit of hipocrocey.. but yes I consider everything that has the fuely smell and is a cross with OG kush i consider og. obv some are more lemon, sour or sweet or nutty coffee or fuel but still easy to know it is chem/og line. and ya so everything is OG in the market by and large and why I agree with you saying its a bottleneck . why people use it is the distinct loud fuel. prob never tried a real cookie cut but seeds, but although some differences def what i have tried has fuel/og smell. but beside the point..

                    anyhoo, point being, called out others for breeding with cookies but do exactly the same thing. all love think have some fire looking gear and would love to try one day. just thought it was funny is all even if they are old beans, its whats out there atm... all good, awesome moving away from that and doing HAZE hybrids and making some unique selections..
                    I made plenty of mistakes over the years. A big one was using cookies. Ive learned from those mistakes. Looks like your confused as to what cookies I'm referring to. Ive Grown most hyped cookie cuts. Out crosses are not what I'm referring to. I hate cookies personally its tasteless nonsense. If others like cookies which some prob do that's fine. We all like different stuff.

                    I will never use cookies again. Been there done that with nothing but issues. It has to be my out crossed selections which you posted above. Your talking about a lifetime of work Ive posted here on ICMAG. I took the time to make proper selections and tested it all well. The only problems I've run into are cookies related. Do my out crosses have cookies yes, id never find breeding materiel If I didn't use an out cross.. It would be near impossible to find something that doesn't have cookies in it. Straight cookies will cause issues guaranteed. The only way to be sure it to use Sativa/Hazes we know are free of cookies.. That's the path I'm on now..

                    Everything you mentioned of mine is out crossed. Out crossed cookies are the only ones good but still carry those bad traits.. Ive been growing/smoking since the early 70's. My path is to bring back what I think is true quality cannabis we had decades ago. With everyone using cookies and still do it will not be easy finding material to breed with. I think I can using Bx Hazes to a Sour Diesel as a base breeding parent(not a drop of cookies in this). Ive already done this part. I need to do more, more , more.
                    Last edited by Hammerhead; 02-26-2021, 20:01.

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                      #40
                      just a little attempt at humor in the irony....

                      continue on with the new new..... which we all hope is shifting towards effects which we hope u find in those haze hybrids.. the quicker flower and 'NLD' like buzz isnt super common c99 jack ssh are from the 90s and still remain all there is in mainstream...

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Hammerhead View Post
                        I made plenty of mistakes over the years. A big one was using cookies. Ive learned from those mistakes. Looks like your confused as to what cookies I'm referring to. Ive Grown most hyped cookie cuts. Out crosses are not what I'm referring to. I hate cookies personally its tasteless nonsense. If others like cookies which some prob do that's fine. We all like different stuff.

                        I will never use cookies again. Been there done that with nothing but issues. It has to be my out crossed selections which you posted above. Your talking about a lifetime of work Ive posted here on ICMAG. I took the time to make proper selections and tested it all well. The only problems I've run into are cookies related. Do my out crosses have cookies yes, id never find breeding materiel If I didn't. It would be near impossible to find something that doesn't have cookies in it. Straight cookies will cause issues guaranteed. The only way to be sure it to use Sativa/Hazes we know are free of cookies.. That's the path I'm on now..

                        Everything you mentioned of mine is out crossed. Out crossed cookies are the only ones good. Ive been growing/smoking since the early 70's. My path is to bring back what I think is true quality cannabis we had decades ago. With everyone using cookies and still do it will not be easy finding material to breed with. I think I can using Bx Hazes to a Sour Diesel as a base breeding parent(not a drop of cookies in this). Ive already done this part. I need to do more, more , more.
                        Hey Hammerhead! Awesome to been seeing your lines on different banks for a while now. Well done!!! Interesting to hear your comments on cookies. I hear what you are saying about lower yield and poor structure, but I have found a few lines with Peanut Butter Breath, like your White Truffle, to be out of this world. Grew a PBB cross with Road Dawg checked all the boxes, including yield.

                        Also concur about sativa/indica hybrids to be prime breeding stock. Have you run or crossed much Ace gear? I am seeing some wild results with some Panama crosses - like 7 different phenos from 7 females of one line. Will take some real breeding work (F4-F5 at least) to stabilize, but I am still going through my project to see what lines have the most potential. Zamaldelica should be interesting too.

                        Keep rocking it!!!

                        WFF

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by billyblog View Post
                          So what are the latest fandangled strains getting around?
                          What's currently topping the charts and why?

                          thx


                          billy
                          ZooDawg is some killer stuff (zookies*kosherdawg)

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by WaterFarmFan View Post
                            Hey Hammerhead! Awesome to been seeing your lines on different banks for a while now. Well done!!! Interesting to hear your comments on cookies. I hear what you are saying about lower yield and poor structure, but I have found a few lines with Peanut Butter Breath, like your White Truffle, to be out of this world. Grew a PBB cross with Road Dawg checked all the boxes, including yield.

                            Also concur about sativa/indica hybrids to be prime breeding stock. Have you run or crossed much Ace gear? I am seeing some wild results with some Panama crosses - like 7 different phenos from 7 females of one line. Will take some real breeding work (F4-F5 at least) to stabilize, but I am still going through my project to see what lines have the most potential. Zamaldelica should be interesting too.

                            Keep rocking it!!!

                            WFF

                            Those are all out crosses which are OK. Don't be fooled those bad traits are still there. GSC carries bad receive traits and will pass those on when its used. We all must weigh the pro/cons when using it. Anyone that has used it will tell ya it does cause issues. Small home growers do not like getting herms, many do not inspect there plants well. Larger commercial growers do a better job inspecting plants for these bad traits when hunting. Its so important to do this all the time regardless of garden size with today's gene pool. I got tired of people seeing issues so ill never use it again. There's no need to.
                            Last edited by Hammerhead; 02-26-2021, 19:59.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Hammerhead View Post
                              LOL, Most of us back then did not grow from clones. Very few even knew how to grow indoor. Most that did it was crap. Those that grew the same clone did not share them outside of a small circle. Many of us old heads have passed on with all their genetics. There was a lot more diversity in the seeds we got from imported weed. Nothing was Cookies. Today a lot of the gene pool is bottlenecked. Most are on the easy breeding track. Going back to real breeding takes too long for most. All you get today is something cookies.
                              The weed back then was in no way better that todays weed
                              Just as you say yourself, most of the weed was crap, doesent matter if it was grown indoor or outdoors.
                              So when people came across some properly grown, potent ganja they were blown away.
                              Just as i was blown away by some street bought white widow in the Netherlands, after 5 years of smoking some German street shwag.
                              And I thought by that point my tolerance was high hahaha.
                              Thats where all the legends about some "long lost strains" come from. It wasnt some super weed, it was just good weed.
                              So, while I agree many strains today are crosses of cookies, og, chemdawg or diesel, but i have no problem with that.
                              If it was that bad people wouldn't buy it.
                              Said that there are enough seedbanks offering strains that have nothing to do with the strains mentioned above.

                              And now, after almost 5 pages, still nobody answered to the question in the title of this thread.
                              @PDX is the one that came the closest.

                              Peace
                              ( Grow1 ,Grow2)

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hempsmoke View Post
                                The weed back then was in no way better that todays weed
                                Just as you say yourself, most of the weed was crap, doesent matter if it was grown indoor or outdoors.
                                So when people came across some properly grown, potent ganja they were blown away.
                                Just as i was blown away by some street bought white widow in the Netherlands, after 5 years of smoking some German street shwag.
                                And I thought by that point my tolerance was high hahaha.
                                Thats where all the legends about some "long lost strains" come from. It wasnt some super weed, it was just good weed.
                                So, while I agree many strains today are crosses of cookies, og, chemdawg or diesel, but i have no problem with that.
                                If it was that bad people wouldn't buy it.
                                Said that there are enough seedbanks offering strains that have nothing to do with the strains mentioned above.

                                And now, after almost 5 pages, still nobody answered to the question in the title of this thread.
                                @PDX is the one that came the closest.

                                Peace
                                couldnt disagree more.... weed from the 90's and early 2000's was light years danker than todays HYPE..... The Super Silver Haze from 1999/2000 in SoCal ...Mr Nice genetics...smelled like a the most insane Skunk and was very loose structure ... that herb blows the doors off anything Ive come across ever!! You would be high for hours like you took a dab and your mouth would be coated in terps that the whole room smelled like after you smoked.. Id get 4k a unit all day and would have people on waiting list if I had those genetics today...

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