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    #46
    Originally posted by The HashMan View Post
    {my info could be off}, but dying breed is ran by a guy named Neil Smith right? I'm not sure what they're growing out in california right now.

    Sometime around 2015-16 I sent Neil Smith seeds to cali, he wanted to buy triploids off me when I was running Dank Mountain seed label out of southern VT, but than later on he claimed that the seed wasn't triploid when he grew them out, which is a lie because I follow billy budds work very closely to create my own polyploids.

    That was the last time I talked to Neil after he tried to black list me on facebook as a scam artist..

    Watermelon originated on the east coast. Back around 2015 via facebook groups, I hooked up a ton of breeders in the cannacommunity with Hybrid Watermelon Kush, OG-39, Strawberry Pluton and Black Market Kush.

    None of the people I hooked up with seed gave me credit for my breeding work tho.


    Luckily, in modern day I can compare the original genetics to the hybrids on the market via PCR and find relative genetic markers.

    I still have all the parent plants to all these crosses, they all originated from VT, I can also back up the epigenetic information on said cultivars if necessary. I was breeding and giving away seed wayyy before east-coast legalization
    my partner in shenanigans is massive creations, the other part of dying breed seeds.. except they fell out and he started his own thing

    Him and his homie higher, are who bred the Adonai (which is what has made basically everything watermelon in today’s market)

    watermelon kush is likely a pheno or hybrid of Adonai as I stated before

    they sent me a bunch of the original beans from 05, 07 and 09 to take a stab at in vitro and potential embryo rescue.
    And various other iterations of the same cross that haven’t even been ran thru yet.


    I explained all this in the beginning of the the thread and even said what the lineage was.

    Prolly want to go back and read it.

    I put the original seeds of Adonai into my agar mix about 5-6 days ago..

    all hail da melon

    and Neil whoever that is did not breed Adonai (watermelon)
    It was shiloh massive and higher
    higher then Swiss beats hairline

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      #47
      Originally posted by TPFTFW View Post
      my partner in shenanigans is massive creations, the other part of dying breed seeds.. except they fell out and he started his own thing

      Him and his homie higher, are who bred the Adonai (which is what has made basically everything watermelon in today’s market)

      watermelon kush is likely a pheno or hybrid of Adonai as I stated before

      they sent me a bunch of the original beans from 05, 07 and 09 to take a stab at in vitro and potential embryo rescue.
      And various other iterations of the same cross that haven’t even been ran thru yet.


      I explained all this in the beginning of the the thread and even said what the lineage was.

      Prolly want to go back and read it.

      I put the original seeds of Adonai into my agar mix about 5-6 days ago..

      all hail da melon

      and Neil whoever that is did not breed Adonai (watermelon)
      It was shiloh massive and higher

      And thats how I know thats bullshit, Neil Charles Smith is Shiloh Massive he runs dying breed, 3rd gen fam and massive creations, everyone knows him in humbolt, the guy went around scooped up abunch of local genetics and renamed them. I'm done here. 350$ for a 10 pack of regulars. Lmfao. Adonai did not make up the original watermelon.
      "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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        #48
        Originally posted by stoney917 View Post
        Ya the info on astroboy is hard to find ... it wasn’t a watermelon line but the line did have a watermelon pheno that was found and passed around back in the day... it was dead on jolly rancher watermelon like c99 expresses pineapples.. haven’t seen her in bout 10 maybe more years .. I’m gonna see if she is still alive and get my hands on her...

        Do you remember bodhi and his watermelon hashplant was a long flowering girl , I missed out on those beans when they were available and still think about them often....

        So your watermelon is not based off either of these ???? I haven’t grown any of these new watermelon lines but sounds like I need to... is dying breed the only ones with it...



        I have a watermelon project going right now from the original s1 watermelon kush cutting that was developed here on the east coast. I plan on getting COAs and hopefully some genetic mapping done before we release beans to the public.
        "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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          #49
          Originally posted by The HashMan View Post
          And thats how I know thats bullshit, Neil Charles Smith is Shiloh Massive he runs dying breed, 3rd gen fam and massive creations, everyone knows him in humbolt, the guy went around scooped up abunch of local genetics and renamed them. I'm done here. 350$ for a 10 pack of regulars. Lmfao. Adonai did not make up the original watermelon.
          he does not run dying breed anymore

          He also is less involved in 3rd gen as well

          you sir are mistaken.

          we’re been working on several lines for going on a year or two now

          sounds like someone’s just a little salty

          I’ve ran the watermelon kush I got from a fella in TX, kinda part of the old rado crew like 7-8 years back

          no bullshit
          but feel free to be done

          I have no interest in airing dirty laundry and your essentially doxxing
          higher then Swiss beats hairline

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            #50
            Originally posted by TPFTFW View Post
            he does not run dying breed anymore

            you sir are mistaken.

            Me n shiloh started our own little side seed project with haze.

            sounds like someone’s just a little salty

            I’ve ran the watermelon kush I got from a fella in TX, kinda part of the old rado crew like 7-8 years back

            no bullshit
            but feel free to be done.

            Yeah I'm sure you did guy, you don't even know shilohs real name. lmao
            "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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              #51
              Originally posted by The HashMan View Post
              Yeah I'm sure you did guy, you don't even know shilohs real name. lmao


              Adonai 09, I also have stock from 05 and 07, and other various hybrids he has yet to even run from back when

              H4z3_br0s on IG
              higher then Swiss beats hairline

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                #52
                nice let me write on a piece of paper to confirm my info on these watermelon genetics.. brb
                "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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                  #53
                  did you forego our joint IG account we made a little while back I also included?
                  haven’t done too much with it
                  higher then Swiss beats hairline

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                    #54
                    Well regardless of who, when, what, or any drama....

                    I'd really love some Watermelon genetics in my life :P

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by lLucky View Post
                      Well regardless of who, when, what, or any drama....

                      I'd really love some Watermelon genetics in my life :P

                      We'll have them soon Don't have to worry about that.
                      "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by The HashMan View Post
                        We'll have them soon Don't have to worry about that.
                        bro know one cares,

                        shiloh and his homie higher, made Adonai in 02 or 05, I forget

                        it was passed around, this is well documented

                        I got the watermelon kush cut in like.. 2012 or 2013 from a mod on the farm..

                        it did not originate when you said it did

                        I’m all for repping the east and Midwest, thus my friend is not it
                        higher then Swiss beats hairline

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by TPFTFW View Post
                          bro know one cares,

                          shiloh and his homie higher, made Adonai in 02 or 05, I forget

                          it was passed around, this is well documented

                          he’s not using your shit ?

                          the only documentation of adonai being related to dying breed is a fake website. I remember sending him seeds right before Zkittlez and dying breed popped up.


                          I don't need your confirmation on these facts lol
                          "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by The HashMan View Post
                            the only documentation of adonai being related to dying breed is a fake website. I remember sending him seeds right before Zkittlez and dying breed popped up.



                            I don't need your confirmation on these facts lol
                            shiloh is actually a good homie, so this is rather amusing

                            your entirely full of shit

                            I literally laughed out loud at your last post

                            good luck in your endeavors, meanwhile I’ll be popping a few hundred Adonai beans from 05-09
                            higher then Swiss beats hairline

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by TPFTFW View Post
                              shiloh is actually a good homie, so this is rather amusing

                              your entirely full of shit

                              I literally laughed out loud at your last post

                              Yeah I'm sure he is, ask anyone in humbolt how much they like him, not too many nice things have been said from what I've heard.
                              I actually asked someone to look into who he was and got his full name, a whole story of how he operates, and what hes been doing in humbolt over the pass several years, so you can save that shit for a rainy day guy
                              "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about." - Rumi

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by The HashMan View Post
                                Yeah I'm sure he is, ask anyone in humbolt how much they like him, not too many nice things have been said from what I've heard.
                                I actually asked someone to look into who he was and got his full name, a whole story of how he operates, and what hes been doing in humbolt over the pass several years, so you can save that shit for a rainy day guy
                                So you think dry snitching and saying someone’s real name on open forum is acceptable?

                                when and where the fuck did you grow up thinking that’s ok
                                higher then Swiss beats hairline

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