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  • @hempy
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    There was a lot of Grow threads on Haze at Cannabis World the old Over Grow but they are no longer up.

    There are some good threads in Icmag also as there are in other forums to.

    The only information pre dating Holland comes from Sam and Rob .

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  • Raho
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    Originally posted by star crash View Post

    Thanks Hempy I’ve seen those pics they’re decades old…Is there really that little documentation on seedsman original haze over the years?
    Well, there WAS this thread 11 years ago . . .
    https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...up-clusterf-ck

    and this one 10 years back:
    https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...-haze-hedgerow

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  • LostTribe
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    Oops didnt realize they were all monto's

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  • @hempy
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    Originally posted by star crash View Post

    When I saw those colas on Sammy’s pic I wanted to compare them to my old pics looking for similarities
    Your SSH in all honesty Star were ANIMALS and grown to their full potential.

    Haze and heavy Haze hybrids can yield big even if the flowers are wispy and airy they can still yield big.

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  • Montuno
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    Originally posted by star crash View Post
    Click image for larger version Name:	4221C352-D61C-47B2-94F5-8BBE6FFAD3F2.jpeg Views:	1 Size:	213.9 KB ID:	18005440 Tell you one thing …it’s not incense… neither were the parents…I don’t know what original haze is supposed to smell like maybe someone can tell me ?..Johnny says it shouldn’t be sweet but I am getting sweetness undertones…also to those who’ve grown Haze in the past >>> does this look like a Haze should look like? Compare ^^^ Montuno’s Green OldTimers Haze #19 X A5 Haze
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    Mire, patrón Star Crash:

    3-Diciembre / December-3

    Como ya os comenté, el gran numero de hojas esconde e impide apreciar el enorme volmen de las flores de mi Green OldTimers Haze #19 x A5 Haze (A.C.E.)... Ella es así de recatada...
    De noche podéis apreciar mejor de lo que hablo... Y recordad que nació tan tarde como el 17-Junio, y que hemos tenido el Noviembre (con heladas y tormentas de granizo incluidas) más frío que se recuerda.
    ​​​​​​Aqui tenéis a mi gordita un poco más "al desnudo"; ella es así, sin maquillaje ni fotoshop...:

    As I already told you, the large number of leaves hides and prevents to appreciate the huge volume of the flowers of my Green OldTimers Haze #19 x A5 Haze (A.C.E.)... She's that demure...
    At night you can better appreciate what I'm talking about.... And remember that she was born as late as 17-June, and that we have had the coldest November (with frost and hail storms included) in living memory.
    Here you have my chubby girl a bit more "naked"; she is like that, without make-up or photoshop....:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dPo5hMJTo-U

    Vista general de la planta, y cola principal:

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  • star crash
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    Originally posted by OldCoolSativa View Post

    Holy fuck those buds are huge!
    When I saw those colas on Sammy’s pic I wanted to compare them to my old pics looking for similarities

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  • OldCoolSativa
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    Originally posted by star crash View Post
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    Holy fuck those buds are huge!

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  • star crash
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    Nevils Haze 2021 YoSammy’s >>> Click image for larger version  Name:	47163942-FA37-4911-AA34-C3DB3650B7E5.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	239.3 KB ID:	18005977Super Silver Haze 2003. (Star Crash’s ) >>>> Click image for larger version  Name:	123BB96E-4D6D-4722-BDD1-582C1DBC71E3.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	207.6 KB ID:	18005974Click image for larger version  Name:	EE6F6604-BE0C-4816-BFC9-1A28C2B3701D.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	95.2 KB ID:	18005975Click image for larger version  Name:	F9E86658-545F-4271-93ED-B1D0AC678253.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	109.6 KB ID:	18005976

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  • sbeanonnamellow
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    Hempy the historian! Thanks for digging up those quotes and sharing them with the commmunity. I'm a fan of the thin leafs! Tropical expressions are my jam, and not just cannabis. Tropical fruits, tropical beaches, tropical waves, and tan tropical women. Tropical food. We revolve around the sun and I love the energy it radiates.

    Massive respect to those preserving and working with the vintage long flowering thin leaf types because they take more time and energy for sure. Long term commitment. It is a labor of love yeah

    In a fit of stupidity or brilliance, not exactly sure which just yet, I recently trashed the garden and had a bunch of the Oldtimers in there that had such a lovely vibe and energy to them. I've been kicking myself since, full of regret as they were the remaining seed stock I had left.

    They were super fuzzy, that velvet feel to the leaves and on young plant shoots. How fitting they come from a Wolfman! I love it.

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  • harvestreaper
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    grown many oldtimer haze hybrids over years the ot haze x meothai is strong in couple of our outdoor lines i find it nice smoke in general but the standouts are in the smaller percent much how all hazes seem to be described ,,,as star said its not much diffrent to seedsman on the surface lets not forget neville did not put any pure hazes out they were all nl crosses which explains the obvious diffrences imo my first experiances with haze /yrids werre plants that looked very much like sams ol plant in the pic super sticky good yeild kinda mex appearance to my eyes ..on the subject of nl founds these today in back of a cupboard never had nl seeds i can only guess they from our old nl5 clone crossed inbred no idea ,,,from earl;y 90s kept at room temp will be a miracle if they pop Click image for larger version  Name:	20211203_142322.jpg Views:	0 Size:	63.4 KB ID:	18005897

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  • harvestreaper
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    todds haze pheno 7 ,,17 weeks today

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  • Montuno
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    Originally posted by @hempy View Post

    Montuno my story is CORRECT i was there you clearly were not.

    The person people should be giving credit to for preserving the line they call OTH and passing it out is Wolfman.

    Ask Dubi about the thread in MrNice at CANNABIS WORLD FORUM as that is were Wolfman gave the seeds out from to people including Dubi.

    This story just keeps evolving like Chinese whispers.
    Ajá: la traducción automática del mensaje que te cité, se confundía con "el foro de Mr.Nice"... Ahora, al traducirme este segundo mensaje tuyo, si leo claro que el foro fue Cannabis World.
    Mi primera interpelacion a ti fue fruto de este " error/malinterpretación"; disculpa las molestias por el malentendido.
    Salud y sativeo bueno.

    Aha: the automatic translation of the message I quoted to you was confused with "Mr.Nice's forum"... Now, by translating this second message of yours, I can clearly read that the forum was Cannabis World.
    My first interpellation to you was the result of this "mistake/misinterpretation"; sorry for the inconvenience of the misunderstanding.
    Health and good sativa thing.


    Pd: in fact, I think that the English translation of this last answer of mine is also confusing...

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  • @hempy
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    A little more info for you.

    Oldtimer1
    9-28-1999
    Posts:439
    Vic my haze lines are separate from the conventional dutch hazes of sam the skunkman. To grow with tropicals indoors and under lighting, well totally different techniques are needed but to my mind they are worth it. This year I have passed on most of what I had left of my h seed stock to a friend and if he is successful the strain may carry on we will see. I do have some mums from a series of crosses m between h and ss of which hd s one, its my fav smoke and takes 9 to 10 w on 12 h.
    Oldtimer1
    7-16-2001
    Posts: 1,032
    Budm, to answer your question no, this haze line is from a commune north of Sacramento and evolved separately but at the same time as Dutchmen haze lines. I hope this helps a bit Budm, I hope i don't owe you any mail I've been ill gain and have lost track a bit. cha cal I for one would appreciate hearing about your developing scrog system and come to that any further developments with scuffing.
    All the best Ot1
    Hi All

    Well nice to read all your thoughts and beliefs...but no matter who you choose to believe it is a decision you make as none of you were there. Neville traveled widely without people knowing where he was and who he met so speculate all you like as proof is in the seed. We have been using the same Haze males for a long time now and if you wish to view strain based info and photos of the F1 seeds grown by real growers who merely buy the seed from MNS...be my guest.

    I did receive so called Haze seeds from wolfman over at CW years ago...but for me it was nothing of selected seed in it since after 18 weeks flower it was still growing. I never made a comment about it as i only had 20 seed sample or so ...I still probably have the rest somewhere...but no matter what everyone is yelling proof is in the seed. There are few guys who I really trust with original stock and Neville is one of them. So for those of you who believe Sam's story about Neville....or for those of you who believe Neville's exposure of Sam...all I can say is Mr Nice Seedbank is still using plants of Nevilles after many years...without fluctuation. I really do not care nor does Neville any longer about all the myths people wish to create...the onus is on the grower/buyer to find as clost to the originals as he or she can...and the empty barrels make the loudest sounds.

    So all the best Shantibaba
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    all the best,
    Shantibaba
    I was there you were clearly not.

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  • @hempy
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    Originally posted by Montuno View Post

    Revisa tu historia.
    Yo asisti en directo (vía internet) a cuando OldTimer eligió a Kaiki y Dubi para trabajar "su" Haze, y no fue en el foro de Mr.Nice, al que nunca he entrado.

    Check your history.
    I attended live (via internet) when OldTimer chose Kaiki and Dubi to work on "his" Haze, and it wasn't on the Mr.Nice forum, which I've never joined.
    Montuno my story is CORRECT i was there you clearly were not.

    The person people should be giving credit to for preserving the line they call OTH and passing it out is Wolfman.

    Ask Dubi about the thread in MrNice at CANNABIS WORLD FORUM as that is were Wolfman gave the seeds out from to people including Dubi.

    This story just keeps evolving like Chinese whispers.

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  • Montuno
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    Originally posted by @hempy View Post
    Haze was preserved by Sam and it came from unknown growers.

    If the line did not originate from Sam skunkman then its not Haze.





    Its not the same as Sam's Haze end of story.

    The person that preserved the line being called OT Haze was Wolfman from Cannabis world and he never got credit for it others did.. OldTimer gave him a line of unknown sativa seed at the Vic High BC as he could not grow them were he was he said. OT was growing dutch haze at the time tho go look in the BC archives its all there.

    Wolfman then started a thread at the MrNice forum at CW were he offered for free seed of this unknow sativa now being called haze to Shanti and to i think 10 growers all up for FREE to preserve and share.

    I was offered the seed i said no.

    Shanti / Fet / Dubi / and a few others got them,. Shanti grew them out and culled them all .

    If were going to call any unrelated sativa Haze then be my guest.
    Revisa tu historia.
    Yo asisti en directo (vía internet) a cuando OldTimer eligió a Kaiki y Dubi para trabajar "su" Haze, y no fue en el foro de Mr.Nice, al que nunca he entrado.

    Check your history.
    I attended live (via internet) when OldTimer chose Kaiki and Dubi to work on "his" Haze, and it wasn't on the Mr.Nice forum, which I've never joined.

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