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    Originally posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Quality is in the eye of the beholder. That can vary drastically in opinions. Since there are few high quality haze plants found most can't give one. When I say hybrid Im referring to plants that had some more work put in. IMO the hazes we grow are not hybrid looking at all. Still, all thin leaf wld looking ..
    Quality comes down to the smoke its either good or its not.

    Haze is a hybrid and even if its been inbreed like Johnny has done with it its still a hybrid.

    Look at Nevil's Haze then look at THH then look at OHaze and then look at Todd's Haze similar but different.

    I went with Nevil's Haze 20 plus years ago others went with OHaze others went with Toms years ago. Now you can add Todd's to the list.

    Years ago people were finding exceptional plants in the OHaze as they were in NH and THH.

    If people did not find exceptional plants no one would be buying Haze seed decades later.

    Nice looking male by the way Hammer
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      Originally posted by @hempy View Post

      Quality comes down to the smoke its either good or its not.

      Haze is a hybrid and even if its been inbreed like Johnny has done with it its still a hybrid.

      Look at Nevil's Haze then look at THH then look at OHaze and then look at Todd's Haze similar but different.

      I went with Nevil's Haze 20 plus years ago others went with OHaze others went with Toms years ago. Now you can add Todd's to the list.

      Years ago people were finding exceptional plants in the OHaze as they were in NH and THH.

      If people did not find exceptional plants no one would be buying Haze seed decades later.

      Nice looking male by the way Hammer
      I don't question anyone's opinion on quality. What you think smokes well could be garbage to another. Your opinion is not the same as others.

      I must have shitty luck than. So far I cant find quality plants in haze alone. In my haze hybrids that is a different story. Plenty of high quality plants found. Lets see what pops up when I grow these THH X p41 seeds same with OH X p41. IMO I think they will be far superior .

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        It has nothing to do with opinions Hammer its ether good or its not.
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          Good=i like it
          Bad=i dislike it
          It's purely subjective so it's a matter of opinion(qualitative property).
          Otherwise we need lab results(quantitative property) but still that won't make me like something I dislike even if its numbers suggest some quality.

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            Liking or disliking the affect of a strain is very different to it being good or poor quality.

            Its ether strong or its not that has nothing to do with the type of affect it gives you.
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              Originally posted by @hempy View Post
              It has nothing to do with opinions Hammer its ether good or its not.
              lol, that is where your problem lies. to you only what you think matters. Life doesn't work that way dude. What you perceive as strong isn't the same for anothers. You can't seem to grasp that.

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                In my circle "strong" is definitely an opinion.
                what one of my friends thinks is "good" another thinks it's the strongest bud he's ever had.
                The quantum kush I grew last time looked spectacular, but when I passed it out people said it was "okay", but my uncle is saying it's the strongest weed he's ever smoked in his 35 years of smoking. I like it, but it's far from the best.
                Lately I've been getting highest off of my haze crosses. Like out of the ordinary high. But to my wife it's just regular bud.
                Everyone I talk to has a different opinion on what the strongest cultivar actually is.
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                  A good plant has everything good potency,taste smell and a good cup of coffee lol, a strong plant has it's time and place (sometimes you just need to get high) just not always my fav hash or oil to go to...
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                    Originally posted by Hammerhead View Post

                    lol, that is where your problem lies. to you only what you think matters. Life doesn't work that way dude. What you perceive as strong isn't the same for anothers. You can't seem to grasp that.
                    I dont have a problem Hammer but all i keep hearing is excuses.

                    Its strong or it is not potency has nothing to do with the type of high or stone a plant has.

                    If a person has a high tolerance a good haze will sort them out.

                    You dont need to insult people hammer to get your point across.

                    Your at 70 days of flower that's what 5 weeks ? , Most haze dont even show sex yet and your pre determining if a plants good or not with out it even close to finishing not even a clairvoyant has that ability..
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                      Not to be a smart ass but not one plant fit's all just saying...
                      “Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.”

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                        I know what you mean hempy there's always a pecking order and there's always one that rises to the top

                        That is within the context of the collection and time of cure etc etc

                        There is always #1

                        And I would also say its not subjective

                        It is what it is by experience and by context of individual collections

                        It depends what youre into some are looking for Indys and some Sativa


                        Once you get the reference point and the experience Then you will know....The light will go on And you will know it!

                        Its Individual but not subjective

                        Its because every sativa head with that experience and that collection And that knowledge would come to the same conclusion given same choices

                        Its a stretch hempy but I know what youre saying...............You inspire Arguments BTW



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                          Originally posted by @hempy View Post

                          I dont have a problem Hammer but all i keep hearing is excuses.

                          Its strong or it is not potency has nothing to do with the type of high or stone a plant has.

                          If a person has a high tolerance a good haze will sort them out.

                          You dont need to insult people hammer to get your point across.

                          Your at 70 days of flower that's what 5 weeks ? , Most haze dont even show sex yet and your pre determining if a plants good or not with out it even close to finishing not even a clairvoyant has that ability..

                          Only in your mind Hempy lol. If you are reading insults my apologies. It can be hard to get you to understand most things. We all don't think like you. Someday you will realize this.

                          Originally posted by herbgreen View Post
                          I know what you mean hempy there's always a pecking order and there's always one that rises to the top

                          That is within the context of the collection and time of cure etc etc

                          There is always a .... #1

                          And I would also say its not subjective

                          It is what it is by experience and by context of individual collections

                          It depends what youre into some are looking for Indys and some Sativa


                          Once you get the reference point and the experience Then you will know....The light will go on And you will know it!

                          Its Individual but not subjective

                          Its because every sativa head with that experience and that collection And that knowledge would come to the same conclusion given same choices

                          Its a stretch hempy but I know what youre saying...............You inspire Arguments BTW


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                          Ea of us can have a subjective opinion on anything. Doesn't matter what we grow. If I like something Sativa/Indica others might not.. No wonder there is such a huge disagreement on almost everything today when we can't even agree on what something means. I've given up trying to explain it.. Those that know, know. Let's get back to what really matters Haze.

                          Subjective Definition
                          based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

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                            It all depends on what your definition of "IS" ......is right?

                            Remember that one???

                            How about this one

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YecBv-5JXmQ


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                              That is the dictionary definition. Today people make up their own lol.

                              THH, Im starting to like this structure. The more she fills in the better. I did do a bit of pruning on the tops to keep the mall even.
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                              I thinned out all the bottom branches I found this seed in one of the branches I cut off. Looks viable ?. Ill let it dry for a few eeks and try to germ it. I see a bunch on 1 THH.
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                                Originally posted by @hempy View Post

                                The Father passes on the Y chromosome without recombination, the DNA on that chromosome provides a genetic history of a males paternal ancestral line.

                                One X comes from the mother one X comes from the father.


                                this may be true for animals, but remember, cannabis produces all males all females and plants with BOTH sexes. anyhoo, point was that there are STRONGER reasons to use a sativa male than inheritance. would be cool if chimera would chime in drop some knowledge for us. but Sam stating genetics from male or female never produced a strong case for varied inheritance is enough for me.

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