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    Originally posted by Chi13 View Post

    No problem. All I meant to do was correct a misunderstanding in the first place. I didn't mean it to come accross as blunt, just the way I say things sometimes.
    All good mate and nice to see a fellow Aussie in posting by chance are you an older smoker like me if so do you remember the line Tripping weed ?.
    Team-Haze

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      Originally posted by @hempy View Post

      All good mate and nice to see a fellow Aussie in posting by chance are you an older smoker like me if so do you remember the line Tripping weed ?.
      Without giving my exact age, I'm closer to 60 than 50 and started at age 14. I remember stuff referred to as tripping weed, but not sure if it was an acutal line, or just a descriptive term? I remember Thai and Buddha sticks, Colombian compressed, Mullumbimby Madness, black putty hash, and even Lebanese blond. Not many varieties even had names back then and they were mostly sativa in the early days apart from the hashes.
      Good times growing up in Oz!
      I don't remember Haze here though which is not surprising I guess. I grew a few Haze crosses once I used seedbanks but nothing outstanding.

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        Originally posted by dr feelzgood View Post
        Just been gifted some m48 haze x south african from SSSC and wondered what haze they could have used at the time of its original breeding.
        As far as i know the seed is a repro but from the original seed.
        Did you ever grow these out?

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          Originally posted by acespicoli View Post
          Pure_Haze/Breeder_Choice_Organisation
          Pua_Mana_Pakalolo_-_The_Blood

          fine examples of in my opinion
          Pua_Mana_Pakalolo_-_The_Blood- Going by there strain info it flowers in 10 to 11 weeks highly doubt its real wish it was not sat will flower that fast.

          Pure_Haze/Breeder_Choice_Organisation - I ran a search only found old archive of there site that has to be Oldtimers line i know that plant would spot it in a line up lol.
          Team-Haze

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            Originally posted by @hempy View Post

            Pua_Mana_Pakalolo_-_The_Blood- Going by there strain info it flowers in 10 to 11 weeks highly doubt its real wish it was not sat will flower that fast.

            Pure_Haze/Breeder_Choice_Organisation - I ran a search only found old archive of there site that has to be Oldtimers line i know that plant would spot it in a line up lol.
            TFD

            They have worked with this variety in Holland for more than 20 years now. It is the base for all the Haze you can find here in Holland. Since being stabilized in the late 70's The Original Haze has never been hybridized. Perfect for breeding projects due to its pure breeding status. For commercial growers this strain is not recommended due to its size and long maturation time. Very potent with an energetic cerebral high. Special breeding stock. Very resinous, large fluffy buds with a sweet and sour taste. The only original pure Haze available. (citations needed lol)

            Indoors: 12-16 weeks
            Outdoors: end of December

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            even this one coming in at 12 weeks early - I have heard it suggested anything over 16 weeks should be tossed
            and even at 12-16 best to save time running your cut so I think we will see what can be accomplished in these lines
            of THH

            would be good to run all these these lines side by side
            most are already documented but as someone suggested a treatise compiled format of all data
            in one front post would be great where the majority agree on flower times phenos effects etc

            Id buy that book too

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            maybe dubi has some more borrowed these from the site
            certainly some nice spears

            never got OT haze yet dont think been looking at that and
            ace panama x ot haze (feminized) certainly had my interest since it had their "elite" genetics in it
            some of the tropical sc and ot lines are proper for sure

            feel like this strain kept to the true spirit of the haze not just another pollen chuck

            Originally posted by SuperNice View Post

            Did you ever grow these out?
            supposedly they have said they continued the work of sacred seed not much documentation from back that far
            dont think you could go wrong with those genetics it would be durban x ohaze imo
            Last edited by acespicoli; 04-08-2021, 03:02.
            "if" the biggest small word in the dictionary

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                Originally posted by Chi13 View Post
                All I did was politely point out you might be mistaken when you called Animal Kingdom "a great description of the cannabis industry and Amsterdam going by what Nevil told me". I really like movies and am also from Australia.You must have misheard Nevil or got your movies mixed up. Again, Animal Kingdom and Amsterdam have no connection. Zero, zilch. The dark side of the cannabis industry in Holland has no connection with a crime gang from Melbourne, Australia. And what has that to do with coffee shop runners?

                Ragseed posted a pic comparing Nevil and the main actor in Animal Kingdom and remarked that they looked similar. That is all.

                Animal Kingdom is the story of a crime gang involved in armed hold ups. One member deals drugs but I think it's meth from memory. Someone else dies of an overdose. Again it has nothing to do with cannabis or Amsterdam. Go watch the movie if you don't believe me.

                I think what hempy meant was a comparison with the movie.The front door is legal, but not the back door.Coffeeshop owners still have to deal with certain underground crime thnx to the more
                repressive policies from the last 20 years which let disappearing of the small grower which was normally supplying the coffeeshops in A'dam.
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                In volcanic soil we trust

                Whether your checkin out bud porn or regular porn from 1975, you wont catch anyone trimming thier bush
                BTW that pluton sucked. We grew it outside-looked awesome, smelled great, everything but when dried, it had 0% high.
                I see it as a kind of wonder drug of our time - Dr.Lester Grinspoon
                In 1895, ‘Arabs . . . Armenians
                [and] Turks’ grew Cannabis indica in central California to supply hash
                to compatriots in San Francisco, and to smoke ‘kiff’ themselves.
                Additionally, the u.s. army planted
                marijuana in Panama in the 1920s for testing its effects on soldiers
                The Dutch paid the Khoisan in 1713 with drugs rather than
                food, goods or cash.
                For the purposes of this research, Roger Adams had obtained red oil extract of the plant legally from the United States Department of the Treasury

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                  Originally posted by @hempy View Post

                  Well males normally sex before the females but as haze is a hybrid that can very but i was more interested to see times of sex for males people have seen and are seeing.

                  Dose inbreeding Haze speed up the time it takes the plants to sex.

                  Is there a difference in the time plants sex in the Dutchman Ohaze compared to others like say Haze 19 from posi.
                  No Hempy, inbreeding OH will not speed it up. Will make it even slower.
                  And the fast males you are seeing in NH F2 I did see them too in pure haze x pure sativa F2.
                  So I guess that's when you inbreed hybrids.

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                    Originally posted by JohnnyChicago View Post

                    No Hempy, inbreeding OH will not speed it up. Will make it even slower.
                    And the fast males you are seeing in NH F2 I did see them too in pure haze x pure sativa F2.
                    So I guess that's when you inbreed hybrids.
                    its all up to the parents you use ,
                    faster ones will make for faster progeny,
                    longer flowering for longer maturing ,, etc ,,

                    its nothing to do with whether you inbred ,
                    its more about your selection ....

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                      Originally posted by JohnnyChicago View Post

                      No Hempy, inbreeding OH will not speed it up. Will make it even slower.
                      And the fast males you are seeing in NH F2 I did see them too in pure haze x pure sativa F2.
                      So I guess that's when you inbreed hybrids.
                      Hi Johnny i was hoping to see a general time period in just Haze lines in General from non inbreed and inbreed.

                      To see what the differences if any between the Dutchman OHaze and Positronics Haze19 or as its also called Tom Hills Haze.

                      I worked out why My Nevil's Haze F2s showed sex weeks sooner than the F1s and it has nothing to do with inbreeding.

                      It has to do with 11/13 vs 12/12 that alone made a huge difference.

                      The F1s seed were flowered under 12/12 the F2s flowered under 11/13.

                      I have a different long flowering sativa line with the NH and there now also starting to show early sex at the same time as the NH.
                      Team-Haze

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                          Originally posted by Donald Mallard View Post

                          its all up to the parents you use ,
                          faster ones will make for faster progeny,
                          longer flowering for longer maturing ,, etc ,,

                          its nothing to do with whether you inbred ,
                          its more about your selection ....
                          Seriously Donald. Do you really think I do not know that?

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                            Oldtimers Haze x Original Haze F2, week 3 from seed
                            F1 took 16-22 weeks.
                            Original Haze father 18-20 weeker.
                            Oldtimers Haze mother 16 weeks.
                            100% of the plants used, are documented here on icmag.

                            You can also make the OH faster, if that is what you want, but you will end with something that has as Haze only the name.
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                              Originally posted by JohnnyChicago View Post

                              Seriously Donald. Do you really think I do not know that?
                              Well, bro, that is what your earlier reply to Hempy implied. Read it again.
                              Maybe if you’d focus on talking about Haze/breeding more than making petty shots at Hempy, your replies would be more spot on the first time. Learn to articulate your thoughts a bit better and don’t blame others if you didn’t.

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                                Originally posted by JohnnyChicago View Post

                                Seriously Donald. Do you really think I do not know that?
                                im glad ,,
                                u said to hempy it will make it slower by inbreeding it rather than faster as he thought ,
                                hence my comment ,
                                (it depends on the parent u select as to which way things go in the next generation ,)
                                thats why i commented as i did ,
                                i was not trying to treat u like an idiot ...
                                so no need to act as though i was ...

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