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    Originally posted by OldCoolSativa View Post
    Thank you. I don't think I'm related to Hempy, but I do grow in Hempy buckets. Do you have anything like that named after you?

    Lol. You weren't there but you are the Arbiter of Truth about the haze story because of what you read on the nternet. Quoting Sam as proof.
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      Any chance Nevil got old MM stock from some of his Aussie connections and called it Haze for marketing or other purposes?

      Didn't Shanti also at one time call his La Nina parental plant a Haze then clarified it as MM at a later date?

      Might explain why people seem to think that '69 bag of seeds is a bit different to what Sam had.

      Just throwing it out there ...

      N7

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          Originally posted by Nexus7 View Post
          Didn't Shanti also at one time call his La Nina parental plant a Haze then clarified it as MM at a later date?
          Yes that’s true. Really surprised everyone when he admitted that.

          M.
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            Originally posted by Morphote View Post
            Yes that’s true. Really surprised everyone when he admitted that.

            M.
            I'll be more surprised if he admitted the HazeC died years ago and Ortega isn't really Nl1xNl5.
            Last edited by RoyalFlush; 02-22-2020, 06:28.
            "American growers are looking for the same thing: strong, overpowering, two-toke indica with huge yields. My number one seller is Northern Lights.”— (RIP) Nevil Schoenmakers

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              Originally posted by Nexus7 View Post
              Any chance Nevil got old MM stock from some of his Aussie connections and called it Haze for marketing or other purposes?

              Didn't Shanti also at one time call his La Nina parental plant a Haze then clarified it as MM at a later date?

              Might explain why people seem to think that '69 bag of seeds is a bit different to what Sam had.

              Just throwing it out there ...

              N7

              Nev did not know MM even excised back then he lived on the other side of the country i only knew about it in 79 because school friends had gone up and lived with the hippy's growing it.

              Shantis MM is a different MM again he n others started breeding that i think end of 79/80 and the MM my mates and the hippy's were growing was all ready there from before 78.

              Run a search at Mr nice Shanti posted on when and the rest of the info of what he calls MM.I did ask if he knew some of my friends he didn't.

              Around 84/85 the cops hammed the hippy's and alternative lifestylers there and my mates came back home some headed south of were they were.
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                Shanti MM isn't pure MM, if you look la Nina you can't see a plant 50% haze/nld,shanti got it in the early 90's(and not in late 70's) from a guy called mullum madman, or something ...
                https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=135579

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                  medicine man mns

                  Originally posted by RoyalFlush View Post
                  Old pic of the 97 NH, they were cut down to 18-20 inches before flower and they still took off.
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                  my first pack was mns in 2008.............ha;f the pack were similar to this structure however the leaves were super thin......and it reaked of peppery coffee......literally took over a 600 hps cooltube tent 3.5 x 3.5 x 7 old growlab tent with the translucent panels on the front flaps....Theres def gold in those packs, that was the plant that got me hooked on equatorial looking cultivars. def worth the wait
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                    walk quietly ...carry big stik

                    Originally posted by BeAn v.2.0 View Post
                    Savage
                    How about them bruins? i heard marchand likes a good haze after a playoff run.
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                      Originally posted by willydread View Post
                      Shanti MM isn't pure MM, if you look la Nina you can't see a plant 50% haze/nld,shanti got it in the early 90's(and not in late 70's) from a guy called mullum madman, or something ...

                      I have never smoked or seen Shantis MM i am just repeating what i read Shanti post at CW and at Mr nice about what he called MM.
                      He said it was the first strain he breed and they a few of them started to breed what they call MM in 79 or 80.

                      MM was all ready an established strain well before 78 because i smoked my first MM in 79 that means it was a strain well before it was grown in 78.

                      Mullum madman sold seed people grew them out and they hermied but he came out and admitted his strain was not the real deal.
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                        Originally posted by @hempy View Post
                        I have never smoked or seen Shantis MM i am just repeating what i read Shanti post at CW and at Mr nice about what he called MM.
                        He said it was the first strain he breed and they a few of them started to breed what they call MM in 79 or 80.

                        MM was all ready an established strain well before 78 because i smoked my first MM in 79 that means it was a strain well before it was grown in 78.

                        Mullum madman sold seed people grew them out and they hermied but he came out and admitted his strain was not the real deal.
                        Yes, it wasn't against you, Shanti said many things that must be filtered and interpreted ....
                        According to many Australians, older than me, MM originated from loads of Thai that arrived on the island in the late 60s, but it could be earlier ...
                        In the end it's another great mix of equatorial sativa ....
                        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=135579

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                          Originally posted by Nexus7 View Post
                          Any chance Nevil got old MM stock from some of his Aussie connections and called it Haze for marketing or other purposes?

                          Didn't Shanti also at one time call his La Nina parental plant a Haze then clarified it as MM at a later date?

                          Might explain why people seem to think that '69 bag of seeds is a bit different to what Sam had.

                          Just throwing it out there ...

                          N7
                          I doubt it very much...nevil describes a plant that was in varing percentages in all those seeds he had...meaning many years of work....the same as in sams haze...although the mm and haze may share some sort of history....I dont think nevil or others would have seen the results they did if nevil's haze was in fact mm...wen he bred Neville's haze to mm the results would have been quite different...but infact the results seemed to produce a plant with great hybrid vigour

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                            If Nev had MM at any time in Amsterdam before 85 dose any one honestly think he would not of made seed and sold them ?.The haze hybrids only started to come out after he got the early haze seeds from Sam.
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                              Individualy mm and haze arnt exactly the same...the mullum seems to lean much more to the darker side of the haze...mullum seems to have the more leathery liver terps with a touch of pineapple ...it does seem to lean much more towards old thai....however it does seem like someone has took one plant and on one side of the world its been taken in the direction of haze and the other side of the word its been taken towards the mullum...thats the only way I can describe the difference in words.

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                                The A5 famous cuts from 30 years back is known as the leathery spicy Frankincense side and the C5 the more lime/Pine/ Frankincense but I believe ( and again my own opinions and guess ) is that the A Male and C Male may be the opposite way around( A Male tasting like C and C Male tasting like A and effects also) and that's how we still get some dominant spicy phenos and effect in some of the X's etc using the C Male.

                                Anyone have any opinions on this

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