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    Originally posted by teide View Post
    This is wonderful.
    First official analysis ever! This community is lucky to see this! exciting!
    Cbc and camphor is new to me.
    Happy to share this!! CBC is something I’m really excited about.
    Ya don’t know, if you don’t grow!

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      Originally posted by teide View Post
      I agree, 9% is not bad at all.
      Will have to read up on the relevant terpenes. Ocimene is not that common? I have read a theory that myrcene levels are what gives the plant indica or sativa effect, the more myrcene, the more couchlock effect. I wonder how the lab analysis supports your theory that abc originates from SEA rather than an indica.
      Ocimene is not very common, and rarely the dominant terpene for a strain to have.

      I have seen hundreds of lab test for flowers I’ve smoked and honestly there is so much more that does not have a distinguishing pattern to determine the ‘Indica/Sativa’ effects.

      There are lots of Myrcene dominant strains that give me energy and limonene dominant strains that put me down. I feel that there is much more science to be done to determine people’s endocannabinoid “type” like a blood type to get a better understanding as to how the flowers will effect someone with an ‘Indica/Sativa’ quality.

      Also a huge disconnect from growth of plant being one way and effect being the opposite creating confusion between cultivator and consumer.

      I don’t think that this fingerprint will give much if any insight into the origins of the variety, at least until I can get a lab test on south South East Asian and compare the two.

      I’m hoping to get a DNA test done sometime but waiting since that will be around $300.00 to sequence. If and when I do get the DNA sequenced, I will share the results here
      Ya don’t know, if you don’t grow!

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        Thanks for a very informative response, Miasa! And again thanks for your devotion to unraveling the abc mystery, paying out of your own pocket. Respect.
        It is maybe due time for someone to send off an abc sample to phylos?
        The ultimate stealth strain
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          Originally posted by Liltree View Post
          Excited to see the lab results, what's the subterfuge drop about? Hybs work or someone else. Seen 7east has something in the works
          Hybri-tech, yeah. they are listing it as australian bastard plant.
          "subterfuge #1"
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          Originally posted by teide View Post
          Thanks for a very informative response, Miasa! And again thanks for your devotion to unraveling the abc mystery, paying out of your own pocket. Respect.
          It is maybe due time for someone to send off an abc sample to phylos?
          I still think it's a good idea but you all are aware of the controversy surrounding phylos right now, yeah?

          as for the test results, it's very unique! from the high cbg levels as well, this seems to indicate ancestry of long flowering "sativa" type, it's more common in landrace "sativas" nld sea style. I would consider that strong evidence of a strong sea influence. This does not appear in any indica/sativa hybrid that I know of, not at the 1.5% level.
          Also I have never seen an ocimene dominant terpene profile. that is pretty unique!
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            Originally posted by Thesearch View Post
            Hybri-tech, yeah. they are listing it as australian bastard plant.
            "subterfuge #1"
            on oregon elite


            I still think it's a good idea but you all are aware of the controversy surrounding phylos right now, yeah?

            as for the test results, it's very unique! from the high cbg levels as well, this seems to indicate ancestry of long flowering "sativa" type, it's more common in landrace "sativas" nld sea style. I would consider that strong evidence of a strong sea influence. This does not appear in any indica/sativa hybrid that I know of, not at the 1.5% level.
            Also I have never seen an ocimene dominant terpene profile. that is pretty unique!
            Yeah, I agree with you and Teide. I am aware of their controversy. However, they have the best data set to compare other genomes to.

            Appreciate your analysis and comparison to the South East Asian landraces.

            Yeah I had not seen it be the dominant terpene until now. Really unique smell to her. I really enjoy it
            Ya don’t know, if you don’t grow!

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              Done a fair bit more 'sampling' of a nice cured foxtailed long flowering abc from the last small run (non seeded this time). Really enjoyable, borderline trippy. low yields although kinda suits the plant blending in with surrounding weeds

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                So let's refresh our memories abc was a hemp plant back in the mid 90s it was crossed to dj short Flo male and given out for free with ordering from Marc Emery in the cannabis culture magazine
                Am I right ?

                I'm not sure about how it has come to be again but I definitely messed it up bad RIP hopefully I get another chance at them

                My reproduction of Freakshow is definitely taking a lot longer than I thought but at least I have that going for me I'm hoping may will be the finish line

                I had high hopes for these but at least I made some wood gates

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                  Originally posted by rolandomota View Post
                  So let's refresh our memories abc was a hemp plant back in the mid 90s it was crossed to dj short Flo male and given out for free with ordering from Marc Emery in the cannabis culture magazine
                  Am I right ?

                  I'm not sure about how it has come to be again but I definitely messed it up bad RIP hopefully I get another chance at them

                  My reproduction of Freakshow is definitely taking a lot longer than I thought but at least I have that going for me I'm hoping may will be the finish line

                  I had high hopes for these but at least I made some wood gates
                  A few corrections to the tale my friend. ABC is a landrace, not necessarily hemp as the pure ABC I grew and had tested came in at 9% THC and I wasn’t even pushing her. Yes Cannabis Culture Magazine crossed it with the Flo and handed them out in the 90’s. The pure line was made available through Painted Forest Farms who went to Australia in search of Heath Robinson’s Black Rose, and ended up bringing back the pure ABC.He met an old timer at a bar and got hooked up with the pure ABC line, brought the seeds back and did an open pollination of the line which was then distributed by Humboldt CSI.

                  Sorry to hear that they didn’t make it through for you! I hope you get a chance to grow them again as there is nothing like them

                  Best of luck with your Freakshow bx! I am thinking about grabbing the improved Freakshow line this year named Supafreak that has a 45 day flower time and lacier serrations.

                  Best of luck!!
                  Ya don’t know, if you don’t grow!

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                    Woodland Digital

                    Beautiful plants with variegation. I got a plant sex test done and will be transplanting the female into a five gallon pot tomorrow and leave the male in a one gallon.
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                      posted this in the other ABC thread under aus international section .. thought it might belong in here.


                      here is a post from Mongy Madness about his Mongy strain ...
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                      Hi all, I thought I would write this post to explain what Mongy Weed is and to hopfully clear up the confusion created by Bindi, Dizzy, ABC and Duckfoot etc.
                      Best to mention Wally Ducks "Duckfoot" strain first. It is not Mongy Weed. But it is a very interesting plant, another strange mutant marijuana. ABC, Dizzy, Bindi etc. on the other hand are all Mongy Weed.
                      The original genetics for Mongy Weed were from a mutated stand of wild hemp ( what I'd call hemp anyway ) found not far from Sydney, Australia. I would like to claim fame for this find, but although I did get to see the plants, It wasn't me that found them. The now elderly couple that did find them I would like to thank for teaching me the basics that got me started growing all plants and especially for recognizing and passing on this strange leaf mutation.
                      In its native state Mongy Weed is not very good for hemp or THC. It is a weed. The couple who found it began to cross these original Mongy Weed seeds with their own plants and were having some success until they were beaten by age, and new living circumstances saw an end to their love of growing cannabis. And as I had shown so much interest, this is when I was given their seeds and began to grow Mongy Weed for myself.
                      Most of their early crosses were with pure sativa and sativa dominant plants of unknown origin. As were mine. the first known strain I crossed with was Durban Poison. Mongy Weed was totally unknown as cannabis at this stage and i was able to grow it just about anywhere undetected which meant that I was able to introduce many different cannabis strains into the gene pool with relative ease. This mixed seed stock I called Mongy Madness.
                      Many of these seeds I started to give to friends ( which I thought was just about everyone back then ) so they could grow their own Mongy Madness and it wasn't that many years after this ( stupid me, it was obvious in hind sight ) I had people trying to sell me Mongy Madness as Bindi weed, and I am reading reports in the paper about new "mutant super weed" busts. I stopped giving away ANY seed after this and continued to grow my own strains in private.
                      Mongy Madness faded into past knowledge for most people as far as I knew and I had heard little more until recently when I got a computer and learned of the Mongy Madness seed that Marc Emery had taken back to Canada and named australian bastard cannabis or ABC.
                      Since then I know of a couple of people who have continued to grow Emery's Mongy seed. Another grower I have found who is also working with Mongy Madness seed, calls his strain Dizzy.
                      I have been growing Mongy Weed for well over 20yrs and don't intend to stop now. It is way too interesting a plant. I have friends who still grow Mongy Madness, and have met a few more people both in Australia and overseas since getting a computer who also do. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more people who have continued to grow Mongy Madness in private over the years as I literaly gave away buckets of seed to alot of different people.
                      Anyway I hope this has helped clear up a few of the mis-conceptions that surround this plant that I have always refered to as Mongy Weed and the couple that found it always called Cannabis Australis.


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