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Diary Here we go again..

Rembetis

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So when do you plan to switch over to 12/12? Just a wild guess here but with sativas like Swazi they won't really start flowering till they're getting root bounded. Love the narrow leafs, btw :good:

I grow all Sativas on 12/12 or 11/13 like I am doing now with my Mozambique. The natural cycle in those parts of the world is right around 12/12 all year with slight variations.

As far as flowering, you dont have to wait for them to get root bound. You will have pre flowers by the 4th node or so. If you transplant at that time it will get them going on flowering. Age seems to be more important. If they are at least three weeks old they will take off.
 

Rembetis

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Here is an example, Mozambique on 11/13 from day one. 10 days from pre flower and transplant



I am also growing Ethiopian Highland at the same time. Here they are at day 36 since pre flowers showed and transplant into 2 gallon pots



as you can see they are staying at a very manageable size. The Mozambique at 12/12 got slightly bigger and I had to tie the tops over but it really wasnt a problem to deal with.

Also Exploziv, for comparison I am running two 600 watt MH in a 4x4 ft tent for 75 watts per sq ft and all seeds sprouted under those conditions. I start and end the day with just one 600. The second comes on from mid morning to mid after noon.
 

exploziv

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Hello, Rembetis!
Sounds good! I guess if I do a bit of lst I could keep the canopy to a manageable 70-80-90 maximum height. For light efficiency.
I still have some questions I keep asking myself..
Should i veg them a bit more than 1 more week?
Should I go 12/12 or other schedule?
 

exploziv

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Plants are doing good, there are still some that are behind but I guess they'll get closer to their bigger sisters till the next update. Since I added the marble gravel soil surface water evaporation is very low, so they probably won't need any water for at least 1 week or more.
The next "watering" will be a compost and vermicompost aact for the roots and a fpe on the leaves for extra micronutrients. Then I will probably set up the pump for automated watering, once I figure out what the almosy dry "point" is for this soil mix.
For now all soil sensors are still around 90% or a bit over.
Light is now at around 40 cm away from plant tops.
Next bigger update will probably come next week. Nothing to do in the grow till then.
 
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ZOnaVerde

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If it's about seeds, I can't wait to see the final result!
Do you want to pollinate it with a male or do you want to stress them until they become hermaphrodites?
Good luck!
 

exploziv

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Hello, ZV!
If I will do seeds this grow, or ever, it will be regular seeds. As I have done before. The line is a landrace and breeds true from what i can see. This is the 2nd generation of seeds I did, all looking the same as their parents.
All going good, bigger plants doubled in about 1 day or so, smaller plants started growing as well.

Later.edit: Update will come at the start of new week.

Later.edit2: Update coming soon. Site update delayed me a bit and I don't have it ready to post yet.
 
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exploziv

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Sorry I neglected this thread so much, I did some quick snaps today to post and see how it works, tried to add them in media album, no success, now i am trying stright to post pictures.
Plants were a bit burned from too much acidity and ferts (I am guessing too hot soil) when they were youger. They are just showing sex, 2 or 3 weeks since the switch. They been a bit neglected, but the grow controlled managed to take care of them without me doing much more than a defoliation before flower and a tieing session 3 days ago. They been watered exactly 2 times since last update. They are not big on water consumption yet.
If anyone has any input on what deficiencies or problems they show please shoot. They are heavly ammended with chicken compost and received no liquid ferts yet.
Again, sorry for neglecting the thread and plants but I promise you the show is just beggining. Grab a chair, let's puff and grow some mf sativas!

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exploziv

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See you guys in about one week for a nicer updates with better pic. Maybe we find out how many females we got till then. Stay tuned.
Forgot to add light was left at 35-40% till today, it's at 50% from now. And will rise it more bit by bit.
 
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exploziv

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Yesterday I cleaned and reupped the humidifier. Now humidity is a nice 68%, and plants seem to be more happy than before when the humidifier ran out of water and humidity was 45-50%. Can't wait to count the girls in a day or two. I already identified 4 females and a male just by looking at them.
 

Chevy cHaze

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Will you be trying to counter the Ca challenge under this light right from the start?
A very good idea to start lower... I went in at 100% and my plants were suffering before I hung it higher. Still cannot seem to have put enough CalMag in to completely sort my deficiencies.
I checked PH of water and runoff too, all in normal parameters so have narrowed it down to Ca on my side.
Best of luck!!!
CC
 

exploziv

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I was hoping the cal mag problem was solved by the chicken shit pellets (that also generated this ph mess in the first place because my soil is acidic enaugh usually before addint that much acidic fertiliser.) They were 1% cal, 1 % mag, and there are enaugh pellets in each pot for at least a couple of sq meters of garden, per manufacturer recomandation.

anyway, plants already outgrowing the problem, and will probably need nutes soon. I will keep my seaweed extract pretty close for when that happens. They look much better and they growing a lot, actually today they needed a retieing. I also identified at least 10/16 plants that are females. The rest are either males or not decided yet to show sex.
things going good. Next update they should start to look good. 3 or 4 of them already growing budsites on the tops.
i also had to up the light a bit 2 or 3 days ago.
so they are growing and stretching fine.
 

exploziv

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Thank you man! Can't wait to get some buds in there so I got what to show in this thread. Update coming at the start of next week.


Later edit(small text update): Good news, 9 females out of 16 plants, the rest being mostly ones I could not decide upon sex yet, but I strongly suspect they were males, except one which was an almost opened, confirmed male.
Just one of the females is still burned or behind, the rest are looking great. 4 of the 7 "males" were looking worse than this female that is behind, while just 1 male was looking better than average female.
great selection of plants left in the grow, and also perfect 3 X 3 grid for efficient canopy surface and light use.
light is at 60% starting now and will increase by 10% per week till max level is reached. Light schedule is 12/12 and will probably stay like this till the end.
Anything not female is already on the way to becoming compost and out of the picture. What is left in the tent you will see in 2-3 days at update time.
Small buds columns rise from the canopy everyday and I still go ahead and tie them down. I guess I still have to do this for a month of so if I want to keep them under 1 meter canopy height.
They did not need water, they still have about 200 ml of it per pot. So I will probably water the light nute dose right around the update time. I should also mention that till now they received a total of 3 waterings and some light sprays with water and compost tea totaling about 18 liters (for all their life and all plants). The marble makes it so soil surface evaporation is almost zero and most (really, almost all) water is used through the plant.
See you guys and gals soon.
wow.. I did write a lot. Sorry for the long read if any of you got to this point..


Later.edit2: Found a pic of one of the males I culled. This one was the average looking male I would say:

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As you can see they were pretty compact and had many tops. Most females look better than this so it's great. Update should come tommorow. Stay tuned.
 
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Chevy cHaze

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I was hoping the cal mag problem was solved by the chicken shit pellets (that also generated this ph mess in the first place because my soil is acidic enaugh usually before addint that much acidic fertiliser.) They were 1% cal, 1 % mag, and there are enaugh pellets in each pot for at least a couple of sq meters of garden, per manufacturer recomandation.

anyway, plants already outgrowing the problem, and will probably need nutes soon. I will keep my seaweed extract pretty close for when that happens. They look much better and they growing a lot, actually today they needed a retieing. I also identified at least 10/16 plants that are females. The rest are either males or not decided yet to show sex.
things going good. Next update they should start to look good. 3 or 4 of them already growing budsites on the tops.
i also had to up the light a bit 2 or 3 days ago.
so they are growing and stretching fine.

I guess that should do it... I normally have dolomite lime in my soil (LC's soilless mix) and that seems to do it. Only last round was biobizz allmix and it unfortunately does not seem to have enough Ca and Mg under LEDs. Also it has compacted like concrete and takes forever for water to seep through.
Back to my own mix for the next round ;-)
Keep it up, looking good and I'm sure you'll have a plentiful harvest Sir!
CC
 

exploziv

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Dolomite lime u say, my friend? I have at least 3 spoonfulls of that in each pot. But that is (very) slow release. When I say I made a mix that is too hot and acidic I am really lowplaying it. Plants took it like champs. I was lucky there! And also, now, after getting used to the medium they started growing like crazy! Double-lucky I guess!
Thanks you for coming by! :wave:
 

VanVulpen

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Fantastic grow as always my friend, we're patiently waiting for the bud porn that's been promised, keep up the good work!
 

Chevy cHaze

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Sure look healthy!
Yeah the dolomite will take a couple weeks to start providing anything for the plants, I have mixed a batch of LC's mix and let it sit for three weeks before I up-potted the latest batch of DoSiDos clones.
So far they seem to be good with no signs of deficiencies and the the thrips were dealt with too.
Keep it up bro always a pleasure to stop by these parts!
CC
 
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