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    #16
    Thanks guys - we’ll see what I end up doing. I thought about dropping down to a 600w but I figure I’d be sacrificing yield if I go that route. If I understand correctly, my warmer temperature will also likely bring my yield down a bit too. I may just run it as is and see how the plants look. I can easily install a higher cfm fan if absolutely necessary and that should get me down a few degrees.
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    Jerry Garcia Growing Up
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    (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
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      #17
      So a quick update. I had 9 of the 14 bag seeds sprout (already pulled 3 that were slow to start) - I probably may have gotten the rest to come up but it's just bag seed so I really didn't care. I put them in my grow tent with the LED corn cob light. I realized I made a mistake in getting that tent set up. I did not allow for height adjustment on the light, I just hung it to a cross bar. That being the case, I had some stretch I needed to find a fix for. I moved them under my HPS with the light about 3 feet above. They are looking fine and currently pushing up their 3 set of leaves.

      Tonight I am going to reconfigure the tent and make that LED height adjustable. I am also going back to the paper towel method and get my seeds to sprout before putting them into the Rapid Rooters. I placed 5 NL#2 x Chem x OPG into towels late on Friday...these were a freebie. Late last night 3 had popped and are in Rapid Rooters in my propagation dome and heated tray. Just waiting on the other two to open up.

      Temps in the room are running about 72-80F. Again, I wish I could get my top temp down a little but I think I will run one cycle and see how it goes. If it doesn't go great, I may just drop down to a 600w. Shoot, the last time I grew I was running a 400w and was thrilled with the results.

      Of course the 6 plants that are up don't need much water but what I am giving them is straight tap adjusted to a pH of around 6.7. PPM of my tap water is around 200. No nutrients yet. With the soil I have mixed up, I probably won't give them anything but water until they tell me they need something.

      I'm really glad I started with some bag seed to get my green thumb back where it needs to be. No disastrous results yet but I am learning and dialing my space in before I get some of my feminized seeds going. I'm still thinking of running Blue Gelato first as its lineage is pretty impressive. I guess its DJ Shorts Blueberry with GSC and Sherbert. I'm excited for that one!

      I hope everyone is well - Happy Growing!
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      Jerry Garcia Growing Up
      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=375656

      (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=377016


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        #18
        I wanted to show a "before" picture of my tent before I do a little rearranging tonight.

        https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?a...tureid=2064026

        https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?a...tureid=2064027
        Legal Missouri cultivator

        Jerry Garcia Growing Up
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=375656

        (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=377016


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          #19
          Opps, didn't mean to insert links above.



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          Jerry Garcia Growing Up
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          (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
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            #20
            Hey Jerry, i guess you are getting those heavy duty yoyo's for the lights..
            You can also just lift them up to be closer to the light with milk crates or something similar. But i wonder how fresh air is getting in your tent with the coolshade set up the way u did it? Looks like that could be the problem after all. Is there anything pushing air in? Am i missing something?
            Keep us updated,buddy
            Remember what the dormouse said...
            "Feed your head.."

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              #21
              Good thought Ivan. I was thinking the negative pressure in the room would pull air into the tent as well as the rest of the room. I could certainly be wrong here. Setting up a fan to blow air in wouldn’t be too difficult if it is going to be necessary. This is exactly why I am running bag seed for my first run! Gotta get this room ready for the strains I paid good money for.

              And yes, I’m getting some “yo-yo’s” for light adjustment. I thought of stacking storage tubs or the like but some extra ducting and a pair of rope hangers wasn’t that expensive so I figured I better do it right the first time.
              Legal Missouri cultivator

              Jerry Garcia Growing Up
              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=375656

              (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=377016


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                #22
                Hi Jerry - looks good - those bag seeds plants look like they are ready to do some serious growing!

                For temperature control - I'd put a 10,000 btu air conditioner in whatever room you are bringing the incoming air from - if it is a room.

                If not, maybe you can put a homemade swamp cooler in the basement using box fan, towel and a water container for the towel to wick from - if you can spare the extra humidity.

                Or, if your incoming air is coming from directly outside and if you have the room to put in two more lines of flexible duct tubing, you can use one of those air conditioners that doesn't need to be fixed in a window and just sits in the room drawing air in through its ducting and exhausting air out through another duct.

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                  #23
                  Man, I really want to avoid having a portable ac unit in there but I’ll admit I have been pricing them. It wouldn’t be that hard, I would just pop a hole through the wall for the exhaust into the rest of my unfinished basement.

                  Humidity in Missouri is certainly an issue so bringing more into the room is not optimal.
                  Legal Missouri cultivator

                  Jerry Garcia Growing Up
                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=375656

                  (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jerry_Garcia View Post
                    Humidity in Missouri is certainly an issue so bringing more into the room is not optimal.
                    Missouri - now, that's humid...

                    Hopefully, you have plenty of electrical power to draw from, because your de-humidifier must be a beast!

                    I think air conditioning also raises the humidity in a room slightly.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jerry_Garcia View Post
                      Good thought Ivan. I was thinking the negative pressure in the room would pull air into the tent as well as the rest of the room. I could certainly be wrong here. Setting up a fan to blow air in wouldn’t be too difficult if it is going to be necessary. This is exactly why I am running bag seed for my first run! Gotta get this room ready for the strains I paid good money for.

                      And yes, I’m getting some “yo-yo’s” for light adjustment. I thought of stacking storage tubs or the like but some extra ducting and a pair of rope hangers wasn’t that expensive so I figured I better do it right the first time.

                      To make it more understandable...where is your exhaust fan hanging? Because mine will be inside the tent,sucking air though the filter and silencer and from there on it pushes it throught he coolshade out of the tent into the garage. It folds the tent up like a little drink tetea pak almost being emtpy amd because of the air inlets on the bottom of the tent,it automatically ducks fresh air in. When i hqve time after work i look fo4 a picture of how i will run it. I hope you only have to change position of your exhaust fan
                      Remember what the dormouse said...
                      "Feed your head.."

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                        #26
                        Jesus christ...excuse my grammar. I just saw it
                        Remember what the dormouse said...
                        "Feed your head.."

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Crazy Chester View Post
                          Missouri - now, that's humid...

                          Hopefully, you have plenty of electrical power to draw from, because your de-humidifier must be a beast!

                          I think air conditioning also raises the humidity in a room slightly.

                          I always thought ac's work by taking the humididty out the air
                          Remember what the dormouse said...
                          "Feed your head.."

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                            #28
                            You’re right Ivan...it would pull out the humidity. I may have to pull some AC in. We’ll see how it goes.
                            Legal Missouri cultivator

                            Jerry Garcia Growing Up
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=375656

                            (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=377016


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                              #29
                              Ivan, the fan is above, just outside my tent. It’s drawing air through a carbon filter, through my HPS hood, into the tent, through my LED hood, out of the tent and pushing the air out through an outside vent. I think Chester might be right, my main issue may be lack of fresh air into the tent. I’m still learning the new setup but I’ll get it dialed in eventually. Appreciate the comments.
                              Legal Missouri cultivator

                              Jerry Garcia Growing Up
                              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=375656

                              (NL#2 x Chem) x OPG Focused by RGSC
                              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=377016


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                                #30
                                What if you placed one of those commercial portable ac units into the 9x13 room, and:

                                1. Vented the heat from the ac unit to the outdoors via insulated ducting through the wall (but away from your outdoors air intake);
                                2. Vented your air intake to the ac unit from the coolest driest part of your house (or nearby outside the house); and,
                                3. Constructed a box, maybe even a tote, filled with salt or other dessicant that is placed either at the beginning of the air intake or between the end of the air intake duct and the ac unit. That way the ac will only take in and give out air that's dryer than the outdoors environment.

                                Long term, if you have access to a backhoe and can do what you want on the land, you can dig an area out big enough to coil some of that black drainage tubing (I think it's 6" to maybe 8" in diameter) and bury it at least four feet deep, where the land keeps the temp at a constant 50-60 degrees. Leave the two ends of the tubing out of the ground to use as air intake and air supply ends and place the intake at the coolest place on your property and the outlet at the dessicant box. Then the ac can only draw air that's both cooler and dryer than the ambient environment to pre-cool and dehumidify the air that the ac cools even more before exhausting it into your 9x13 room.

                                In the winter, if it freezes where you live and the humidity plummets, you can replace the dessicant box with a wet towel that wicks water up from a tub and run only the fan on the ac unit. That way, you can heat your basement room up high enough, with the help of your lights and humid enough for happy winter plants.

                                But, you REALLY got to have the DIY bug bad to put in a passive geothermal cooling/heating system!

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