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    #31
    Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
    Sunny I really get to craving a good tomato about now every year. Last winter I put a grape tomato I n my flower room it took a while to narrow it down but the ak47 next to it smelled and tasted like old meat. Same cut five feet away was fine. I'm pretty sure it was the tomato as a companion. So if you plan to have both put some mint between them.
    Rodehazrd
    Good to know. Haven't tried growing the two together yet as I'm still in that guerrilla growing stage and trying to learn more about moving things indoors soon (my guess is in 4 years Fla will go full rec) - so, well, relatively soon.

    Harvested the last bunch of the mister stripey tomatoes this morning and took cuttings from the big producer and moved two smaller plants that I had kept in a shady part of the garden to the sunny so they start growing faster.

    I need to work on instead of having 5 plants that come in at the same time with these tomatoes to dial back and have a run of 12 going, but with each generation started about 4 weeks after the previous one so that I have 3 in production at a time as I had so many come ripe lat week i had to trade away 10lbs of tomatoes that I couldn't use - though I was able to trade with a neighbor who raises chickens, so I got 10 dozen eggs out of the deal. Nothing like farm fresh eggs.

    @fiddy
    I use 5 gallon pots for mine and that's a perfect size (at least for the mister stripey). If you want to got with a heavier producer (early girls) I'd go with a 7 gallon pot, especially if you're having watering issues. I use the pots instead of the ground since it allows me to move them onto the porch if I need to. With the tornado that hit central florida a few days ago I was able to pick them up and move them onto my back porch which is protected from the wind, and when the hurricane blew through here in October i moved them inside the house before taking off for safer ground. If I end up getting a frost (none yet this year), I can easily bring them onto the porch as well.

    Keeping them wet enough, even in 100+ temps, is doable, though I'm at 100% humidity when I get to 100 where you're probably at 2% humidity. Anywho - when the doge goes for her last run of the night they get watered, then they get watered again at the 10:00am doge play time. On your end you could try a 7am watering and a 5pm watering, or you can always do the old tobacco trick and put up a sunshade over the pots to keep the heat of the day off them. They'll get enough ambient light, and the amount of sun in your neck of the woods is going to make them so much sweeter than anything store bought.

    There's also some tomatoes which are very, very heat tolerant. On my end I'm down to the mister stripey and every once in a while I throw a black cherry in, but just like weed, the perfect variety is out there for you.

    I've got the stripey's dialed in but this works for most tomatoes.

    **4 gallons generic potting soil from home depot, 1/2 gallon of perlite and 1/2 gallon earth worth castings. I run the dirt for 3 or 4 grows before I change out.

    **Fertilizer during growth with 2 teaspoons of miracle grow in 3 gallons of water every other day, then water til soil thoroughly soaked.

    **I also make sure I clear out the old, dead undergrowth. As soon as the leaves on the lower end of the plants start turning yellow or spot up, they're pruned off.

    **Water on the off fertilizer days. When it's really hot in the summer, then water 2x a day.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Sunny FL Indica View Post
      Good to know. Haven't tried growing the two together yet as I'm still in that guerrilla growing stage and trying to learn more about moving things indoors soon (my guess is in 4 years Fla will go full rec) - so, well, relatively soon.

      Harvested the last bunch of the mister stripey tomatoes this morning and took cuttings from the big producer and moved two smaller plants that I had kept in a shady part of the garden to the sunny so they start growing faster.

      I need to work on instead of having 5 plants that come in at the same time with these tomatoes to dial back and have a run of 12 going, but with each generation started about 4 weeks after the previous one so that I have 3 in production at a time as I had so many come ripe lat week i had to trade away 10lbs of tomatoes that I couldn't use - though I was able to trade with a neighbor who raises chickens, so I got 10 dozen eggs out of the deal. Nothing like farm fresh eggs.

      @fiddy
      I use 5 gallon pots for mine and that's a perfect size (at least for the mister stripey). If you want to got with a heavier producer (early girls) I'd go with a 7 gallon pot, especially if you're having watering issues. I use the pots instead of the ground since it allows me to move them onto the porch if I need to. With the tornado that hit central florida a few days ago I was able to pick them up and move them onto my back porch which is protected from the wind, and when the hurricane blew through here in October i moved them inside the house before taking off for safer ground. If I end up getting a frost (none yet this year), I can easily bring them onto the porch as well.

      Keeping them wet enough, even in 100+ temps, is doable, though I'm at 100% humidity when I get to 100 where you're probably at 2% humidity. Anywho - when the doge goes for her last run of the night they get watered, then they get watered again at the 10:00am doge play time. On your end you could try a 7am watering and a 5pm watering, or you can always do the old tobacco trick and put up a sunshade over the pots to keep the heat of the day off them. They'll get enough ambient light, and the amount of sun in your neck of the woods is going to make them so much sweeter than anything store bought.

      There's also some tomatoes which are very, very heat tolerant. On my end I'm down to the mister stripey and every once in a while I throw a black cherry in, but just like weed, the perfect variety is out there for you.

      I've got the stripey's dialed in but this works for most tomatoes.

      **4 gallons generic potting soil from home depot, 1/2 gallon of perlite and 1/2 gallon earth worth castings. I run the dirt for 3 or 4 grows before I change out.

      **Fertilizer during growth with 2 teaspoons of miracle grow in 3 gallons of water every other day, then water til soil thoroughly soaked.

      **I also make sure I clear out the old, dead undergrowth. As soon as the leaves on the lower end of the plants start turning yellow or spot up, they're pruned off.

      **Water on the off fertilizer days. When it's really hot in the summer, then water 2x a day.
      Good afternoon Sunny.
      Thanks for the tomato tips. I think that if I put the effort into tomatoes that I put into my ganja I'd probably do ok. I haven't done much research and the few try's I've made have been kind of half assed. Sounds like I need bigger pots and I've under fed them badly. Maybe a pot with some type of water reservoir and a wick or something but if a little shade will work than that might be a good option. It is often humid in the summer but the 3-4 gallon pots I've used in the past will dry out while I'm at work even if I water right before I go. I like your idea to keep them in pots so that they can be moved when weather comes through. I've found my plants tipped over and laying on the ground a few times last year. Lots of things to stress them. I do love a good tomato and we only get them for a few weeks up here. All the greenhouse stuff at the store tastes like cardboard. I think I'll have another go at them next summer. Damn now I'm craving a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich. Thanks again for the tips. I'll do some looking into heat resistant varieties to try come summer.
      Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
      Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
      Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
      Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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        #33
        Originally posted by Fiddynut View Post
        Welcome Bobbo.
        Glad to have you. We love our plants and I'm hoping this will be a good show. We also like to talk dogs, food or whatever is on our minds. I hope you and your plants are happy and healthy...Fiddy
        Thanks for having me! I also love my plants and dog-and cats too! Yes thanks we're doing pretty good!

        Rock on brother!
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          #34
          Originally posted by Bobbo4200 View Post
          Thanks for having me! I also love my plants and dog-and cats too! Yes thanks we're doing pretty good!

          Rock on brother!
          Good morning Bobbo4200.
          Looking through your grow journals it's clear you give your plants plenty of love. Really some beautiful examples of some great genetics. My goal is to grow some frost monsters like that someday....Fiddy.
          Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
          Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
          Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
          Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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            #35
            you are well on your way,brother

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              #36
              Originally posted by pop_rocks View Post
              you are well on your way,brother
              Thanks pop_rocks.
              I'm getting there but my younger more impatient self wishes I'd started doing this long ago. Just have to keep learning on the job and I think the results will be there. My autos are looking really good and should be done in 2-3 weeks. Gotta keep the tents full and the lights on.
              Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
              Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
              Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
              Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                #37
                Update and pics

                Greetings friends.
                We are well into the "watching paint dry" phase of the seedlings. All 8 are doing well and are pretty close to one another size wise. They all came up within 12 hours of each other so it will be easy to see if any are quick growers or if I have any weaklings. I think the roots are doing well since they needed water only 3 days from their last watering. I gave them a little kelp solution with the water this time as well. I'm really looking forward to these plants getting a few leaves so they can take off and really start growing. Here are a couple pics as of this morning.


                Not a whole lot of action to speak of but in a couple weeks these baby's will be a lot more fun to watch and talk about. Thanks for stoping by to have a look at this grow....Fiddy.
                Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                  #38
                  Good to see all 8 have popped.

                  The mister stripey cuttings I took on the 24th have already started popping roots.

                  Looking forward to Sunday - making a trip to one of my grows a few hours south of here to check on my other baby's. I was going to wait another 2 weeks as I like to leave mother nature alone (I planted on the solstice and was planning on letting them go 7 or 8 weeks), but the more I've thought of it the more worried I am about the storms that came through here last weekend. I need to see if I've been washed out or not. As it is I'm used to harvesting about 1 of 4 plants anyways, and I really don't need much except for my own occasional use since I've got the vape pen I use most of the time, but I have no desire to go out buying schwag so if I'd rather fix things up if there's been a problem now then wait. I just hate going out at all until things are ready - always worried about showing up at any of my grows but I'm a bit paranoid like that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sunny FL Indica View Post
                    Good to see all 8 have popped.

                    The mister stripey cuttings I took on the 24th have already started popping roots.

                    Looking forward to Sunday - making a trip to one of my grows a few hours south of here to check on my other baby's. I was going to wait another 2 weeks as I like to leave mother nature alone (I planted on the solstice and was planning on letting them go 7 or 8 weeks), but the more I've thought of it the more worried I am about the storms that came through here last weekend. I need to see if I've been washed out or not. As it is I'm used to harvesting about 1 of 4 plants anyways, and I really don't need much except for my own occasional use since I've got the vape pen I use most of the time, but I have no desire to go out buying schwag so if I'd rather fix things up if there's been a problem now then wait. I just hate going out at all until things are ready - always worried about showing up at any of my grows but I'm a bit paranoid like that.
                    Good afternoon Sunny.
                    Great news on the mr stripey. Popping roots after only a couple days is crazy, I wish ganja plants rooted that quick. Is that normal for tomatoes? I've only tried with cannabis and used rapid rooter plugs, rooting gel, and humidity dome. Is the process similar for tomatoes?

                    That must be kind of cool to have plants out there and just trust that Mother Nature is taking care of them for you. It would make me nervous as well to not be able to check on them daily. How do you keep them from being eaten by rabbits or other little animals? I'm thinking about doing some guerrilla grows with some auto flower plants this summer and need to read up on how to give my plants the best chance. I would need to protect them from animals and also need to water them if we get an extended dry spell. Maybe a little chicken wire cage when they are young and venerable. There are lots of parks and wide open lightly wooded areas close to me that I could hide a few plants in. I think the most intimidating part for me would be getting the harvest out of the park and home without being seen or questioned. I'm pretty sure that even if someone saw me going to the plants to water them I could say they weren't mine and I was just out for a hike and had water with me for consumption.

                    I'd think 1 out of 4 plants is a really nice return for a grow where you don't have a lot of hands on time with. Just plant a bunch of them and hope for the best. I suppose that putting plants in various separate locations is the way to go.

                    I hope your girls survived the storms and are thriving. Be carful when you check on them and if anyone shows up just deny everything is all you can do. Good luck and let us know how it went..Fiddy.
                    Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                    Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                    Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                    Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Fiddynut View Post
                      Good afternoon Sunny.
                      Thanks for the tomato tips. I think that if I put the effort into tomatoes that I put into my ganja I'd probably do ok. I haven't done much research and the few try's I've made have been kind of half assed. Sounds like I need bigger pots and I've under fed them badly. Maybe a pot with some type of water reservoir and a wick or something but if a little shade will work than that might be a good option. It is often humid in the summer but the 3-4 gallon pots I've used in the past will dry out while I'm at work even if I water right before I go. I like your idea to keep them in pots so that they can be moved when weather comes through. I've found my plants tipped over and laying on the ground a few times last year. Lots of things to stress them. I do love a good tomato and we only get them for a few weeks up here. All the greenhouse stuff at the store tastes like cardboard. I think I'll have another go at them next summer. Damn now I'm craving a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich. Thanks again for the tips. I'll do some looking into heat resistant varieties to try come summer.
                      Fiddy
                      I have good luck with 30 gal tubs outdoors. about ten dollars at the depot. I put two 4inch sewer t connectors in the bottom of one tub and set another tub on top of the t's cut a hole in the middle of the top tub the size of a 6 inch net pot. pack the pot with rock wool and fill with soil. the bottom tub holds about four gallons of water i throw an air stone in the bottom to keep it sweet but outdoors you might not need to if it drys out some. I leave them for a week without worry.
                      Rodehazrd
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                        #41
                        small animals out in the wild can be a problem
                        plus being a guerrilla grow, not being noticeable is key
                        / i dont know how deep in the bush you are growing but in my area there is nothgin truely wild
                        one thing i would do is piss as often as i could around the area i plated in
                        /gross i know but to an animal in teh canyon all they smell is danger
                        i would also collect my dogs hair and spread that around the area
                        an old timer i knew had problems wiht deer and told me to use a panty hose filled with dog/ human hair and hang those from a tree
                        because i was growing kind of close to an urban area i didetn want to leave any sigh of ...well anything
                        so instead of encapsulating the hair i would jsut leave tufts in bushes
                        if you choose to use chicken wire (which i also used) get the oldest rustiest pieces you can
                        new wire sticks out like a sore thumb in the canyons, but old rusty wire blends right in

                        best of luck brother

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
                          Fiddy
                          I have good luck with 30 gal tubs outdoors. about ten dollars at the depot. I put two 4inch sewer t connectors in the bottom of one tub and set another tub on top of the t's cut a hole in the middle of the top tub the size of a 6 inch net pot. pack the pot with rock wool and fill with soil. the bottom tub holds about four gallons of water i throw an air stone in the bottom to keep it sweet but outdoors you might not need to if it drys out some. I leave them for a week without worry.
                          Rodehazrd
                          how are oyu powering the airstones?
                          that sounds like a sweet set up
                          in a 30g tub with a good supply of water, i bet you were growing some monsters!

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
                            Fiddy
                            I have good luck with 30 gal tubs outdoors. about ten dollars at the depot. I put two 4inch sewer t connectors in the bottom of one tub and set another tub on top of the t's cut a hole in the middle of the top tub the size of a 6 inch net pot. pack the pot with rock wool and fill with soil. the bottom tub holds about four gallons of water i throw an air stone in the bottom to keep it sweet but outdoors you might not need to if it drys out some. I leave them for a week without worry.
                            Rodehazrd
                            Good morning Rodehazrd.
                            That sounds like a gangster set up for sure. I've seen people use stacked 5 gal buckets like that but they get top heavy and don't hold enough water to last very long. Great idea. I enjoy DIY projects like that.
                            Your report of having a tomato plant change the taste of a ganja plant growing side by side is also very interesting. Last year my bro was trying to disguise a few mj plants out in his back yard with some tomato plants and I was told that they didn't mix well but because they attracted the same kind of bugs or something. Very interesting that they can interact like that. I have been tempted to grow a tomato in my flower tent but not anymore. Good to know...Fiddy.
                            Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                            Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                            Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                            Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by pop_rocks View Post
                              small animals out in the wild can be a problem
                              plus being a guerrilla grow, not being noticeable is key
                              / i dont know how deep in the bush you are growing but in my area there is nothgin truely wild
                              one thing i would do is piss as often as i could around the area i plated in
                              /gross i know but to an animal in teh canyon all they smell is danger
                              i would also collect my dogs hair and spread that around the area
                              an old timer i knew had problems wiht deer and told me to use a panty hose filled with dog/ human hair and hang those from a tree
                              because i was growing kind of close to an urban area i didetn want to leave any sigh of ...well anything
                              so instead of encapsulating the hair i would jsut leave tufts in bushes
                              if you choose to use chicken wire (which i also used) get the oldest rustiest pieces you can
                              new wire sticks out like a sore thumb in the canyons, but old rusty wire blends right in

                              best of luck brother
                              Good morning pop_rocks.
                              Yep the rabbits, squirrels, chip monks, and all the other little guys around here are always hungry and looking for food after starving all winter. The young tender plants wouldn't stand a chance without some help I think. As long as I got a little way off the beaten path I don't think I'd have to disguise them too much. It's gets very overgrown and there is so much brush and nothing green really stands out because everything is so green. In fact they may not get enough light to grow very well because it's so overgrown. It would just be bad luck for someone to come across them. They would have to get close to spot them or follow a trail left by a grower. The hair and piss are good ideas. My wife has some all natural deer and rabbit repellent spray but I think it needs to be reapplied pretty often. Great tip about using old weathered chicken wire. The shiny new stuff would probably stand out in the lush green of the brush as well.

                              Anything interesting on the menu this weekend. Not sure what I'm going to do on Sunday without football to watch. Kind of funny when football is over I always wonder what I did on Sundays for the rest of the year. Then spring comes and I remember that there are things like disc golf, bike rides and other outdoor activities to be done. Have a great weekend...Fiddy.
                              Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                              Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                              Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                              Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                                #45
                                As mentioned upthread, doge hair is the way to go. I don't get much since she's a brittany, but a neighbor friend has some muts which shed an incredible amount of hair - and since he was the one that introduced me to guerrilla growing he passes me off some.

                                And yes, pests (both rabbits, wild boars and, well, humans) do mess with the plants, as can mother nature. In south central Florida there are tons of areas that are still wild. Some of the grows I've done have been a good 20 - 30 minute hike into the forest, and some are less than 50 yards from the road. One thing though, especially with these mild winters, we don't have starving rabbits and squirrels lookin for food. It was 80 yesterday, though we have 4 days with a high only in the 60's, with the exception of those storms last weekend its been just amazing outside the last few months.

                                And yes, it sucks to miss your yungins growing up - but stealth is of the up most importance, so its set it and forget it. I use an old style hand-held GPS only device and will never take my phone when I'm on safari (well, I lied, I take the phone but turn off the phone completely before i leave my house and put it in the glove box in case I have a car emergency - don't want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere).

                                @pop - great idea about the piss. Never thought of it - but anything to put a human scent in the area will help keep critters at bay.

                                And just remember, mother nature (or god, your choice), gave us this plant, and when we got the gift, it was naturally grown in the sun. 100,000 years ago when our ancestors first started smoking the plant, they didn't even have houses, let along DTW or DWC or the latest LED lighting.

                                Don't get me wrong, my first and foremost way of enjoying pot is with my vape pen because nobody knows and theres no smell to it so I don't catch shit from the woman (who, BTW, is amazing in every sense of the word for everything else in my life), but given a choice, there's nothing like a big doob of sun grown weed.

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