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    Originally posted by Unclecrash View Post
    Going to try the fox farm mix 3 bags one each of Ocean Forest Original and lite warrior. Dont have much room so I spit it into a half batch. Would like to reuse the soil after the run . Im only running the Happy frog organic mix joe stated. for nutes at 1/2 cup mixed in will this do the job . I also got some oyster shell and going to start collecting stuff to use blood bone meal and such. Anyone tryed this mix? I have transplanted a few to some OF and sent them to flower have not had to add no nutes yet to those.been a week or so in the mix. Just transplanted some today to the new organic mix will see what happens. How much water with my tea shouls I add to the mix to get it kickin it is about 15 gallons of mix? dont want to flood the microbes out. LOL.
    Not sure if I understand your questions or can answer them but I have been using the Fox Farm recipe for many years and am very pleased with it. It's a great base to start from, especially if you grow from seed. The original recipe calls for 8 to 10 quarts of perlite to also be added. Not sure why Joe omits that - if he just forgot, or really didn't add it, but I advise doing so. It's just an easy lazy-man's mix that can perform.

    I do feel that the replacement of Happy Frog Fruit & Flower instead of Peace-of-Mind Fruit & Flower has resulted in an inferior mix, but that's anecdotal.

    Happy Growing!
    §467. I am sitting with a philosopher in the garden; he says again and again “I know that that’s a tree”, pointing to a tree that is near us. Someone else arrives and hears this, and I tell him: “This fellow isn’t insane. We are only doing philosophy.”

    — Ludwig Wittgenstein, On Certainty

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      Thanks for the reply Im using the 3 bag mix just only mixed half the full amount of dirt and am basically wondering what all I can amend to the soil without cooking my plants. And What do I need to amend back into the dirt next run as I would like to use blood and bone meal kelp oyster shell or the 3 they are using for re amending I think lime oyster and gypsum alfalfa and stuff as I want to try a different way other than the Happy frog Nutes. I been picking up stuff here and there.. About 15 gallons of soil I will be reusing.

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        Originally posted by Unclecrash View Post
        Thanks for the reply Im using the 3 bag mix just only mixed half the full amount of dirt and am basically wondering what all I can amend to the soil without cooking my plants. And What do I need to amend back into the dirt next run as I would like to use blood and bone meal kelp oyster shell or the 3 they are using for re amending I think lime oyster and gypsum alfalfa and stuff as I want to try a different way other than the Happy frog Nutes. I been picking up stuff here and there.. About 15 gallons of soil I will be reusing.

        If I were you I wouldn’t add anything other than what the recipe calls for. I don’t reuse the mix (other than into the garden, flowerbeds/pots, etc.). To reuse it would include work to figure out what to put back in. Taking away from the laziness of it all.

        I would think you would want to run it as called for, at least a couple times before adding anything else. It is a “water only” recipe. And if your concern is in burning your babies, then definitely hold off on adding anything. I have found the mix to be generally tolerable by the great majority of plants grown (even once dropped a jade plant into it). And I can say that years ago when I did mix blood, bone, oyster, kelp, green sand, vermiculite, etc., etc., trying this and that soil mix, I found (roughly) the same percentages for expressions from seed that weren’t generally happy and satisfied as I do now in this mix, which isn’t as much work - and showed (roughly) better percentages.

        No reason you can’t mix it in halves, that’s what I do.

        If running from clone, doing what you’re looking to do will be much easier than running from seed. I run from seed; which makes "dialing-in" a bit tricky. But the mix is a nice palette to work from.

        Have you considered going no-till? If I wanted to “reuse”, I think that would be the ticket - but not as easy as mixing a few bags together.
        §467. I am sitting with a philosopher in the garden; he says again and again “I know that that’s a tree”, pointing to a tree that is near us. Someone else arrives and hears this, and I tell him: “This fellow isn’t insane. We are only doing philosophy.”

        — Ludwig Wittgenstein, On Certainty

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          I hear ya water sounds good just want to help them along with botanical teas and stuff . I am doing clones. Im constantly planting back into the soil . I was doing it with promix and
          just some lime add a root ball to the tub bust it up and use the dirt from the other end the tub. I was using bottle nutes . So I been reading about how t amend back the lime gypsum and oyster a long with the rockdust and such. I know its more work but like to stay active while my pain is under control.

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            Ofcourse I find this thread after 1 year of research and completing my recipe after hours and hours of analyzing recipes. This should have been in the organics section! ERRRRRRR

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              I am starting a grow soon using the soil mix you don't have to feed that calls for mixing the different FoxFarm products together, but the FoxFarm Light Warrior cannot be sold in my state nor any nearby states. The other products are on their way so I do not want to completely deviate from this mix.

              So, is there another product I can substitute, or a way to recreate the Light Warrior by procuring the constituent parts and mixing them myself?

              Thanks

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                Nice article.

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                  Fox Farm Happy Frog and Ocean Forest 1:1 mix for the win for 20+ years.

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                    I do not think there even was a Happy Frog product line available twenty years ago. (Was there?)

                    The Happy Frog fertilizer line was formerly branded as Peace of Mind. I think the HF soil line was made available at the same time the fertilizer line transitioned to Happy Frog.
                    §467. I am sitting with a philosopher in the garden; he says again and again “I know that that’s a tree”, pointing to a tree that is near us. Someone else arrives and hears this, and I tell him: “This fellow isn’t insane. We are only doing philosophy.”

                    — Ludwig Wittgenstein, On Certainty

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                      Has anyone had success with using only Happy Frog by itself? I added some lime and perlite. First time using only Happy Frog organic. used pro mix last run and it worked out well.

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                        My first reaction to Happy Frog. It does not hold moisture very well at all. I am attempting to start 9 seeds in the new air pots( holes in the sides) and find center part of pot dried out after one 20 hr on light day with circulating fan on low. With regular closed pots the moisture would linger for a day or two before re watering was required. As I struggle to germinate the remaining pots( planted 8 , 24 hr. soaked Hubba Bubba Smellascope seeds in remaining pots, it appears that daily watering, small amount around seed area is required. Is it the soil, air pots, or too much air circulation? Hell it could be all three, but I suspect the soil right now.

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                          i'll definitely use some bat guano and worm castings in my mix. thanks for this very instructive thread

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                            modified LC shit:


                            5 parts coco
                            3 parts perlite
                            2 parts worm castings

                            1 T per gallon crushed dolomite

                            1/2 T Blood meal per gallon (Nitrogen)
                            1.5 T Bone meal per gallon (Phosphorus)
                            1 T kelp meal per gallon (Potassium)



                            1 T per gallon Crab meal per gallon (Chitin, NPK)

                            1 T per gallon Alfalfa Cubes per gallon (Nitrogen)

                            1 tsp per gallon Neem Seed Meal per gallon (NPK, Gnat Control)

                            1 tsp per gallon Mosquito Dunks top dressed (Gnat Control)

                            1 tsp per gallon The Guano Company’s Super Tea Mix

                            1 tsp per gallon Diatomaceous Earth (Gnat Control, Silicon)


                            1 tsp per gallon Azomite


                            1 tsp per gallon Volcanic Rock Dust



                            Any suggestions?

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                              I want to eventually get into a fully organic baller soil mix made from compost and all the natural living good stuff but in the meantime I'm growing with a soil mix made of three bags of FF soil, one each of Ocean Forest, Light Warrior, and a red potting soil mix bag with guano and worm casings.



                              Wanted to go water only and I remember reading about this working if you get the time line right and do frequent up potting. You can also add big bloom during flower with molasses which I totally intend to do flower time, but my question is with watering with soil I don't want run off correct? Total noob here on my 1st grow =0)

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