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    Hey BT, sorry, my bad. I will flush the system and just use plain water. Will the bacteria in the lava rocks stay established?

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      Well that depends? If you flush your system and refill it with plan old tap water most likely the chlorine will finish off what established Beneficial Bacterium that you mite have because your plants are small, but you did use large net-pots so it is possible that some mite survive, but flushing would still be better than having that stuff in your system imo,………..your plants are young and small watch is a plus for you, {not a great deal of plant matter in the water-system} if it were me I would flush now and refill with just tap-water it may take a week for the {BB} to reestablish themselves but this should not hurt the plants at all.
      BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101
      BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style

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        BigToke I just wanted to say I am really impressed with your setup. I'm in. I did DWC my first grow and had some fucked up problems with rootrot and did my last couple of grows in soil which is fine but no explosive growth and monster yields like a sweet 'dro grow IMO. My space is basically 8.5'x10' and height is not an issue. Ceilings are like 14 feet. The sealed enclosure I will create will probably be 10' tall but that is more because the panda film is 10' wide than anything else. I believe I will go with 6 or 8 buckets to start with under 1200W (2x600) and then have another 600W on the other side of the room that I am going to flower a few plants in soil still until I have this thing dialed in. I'm basically going to follow everything you said, the only thing I couldn't follow was the floater mechanism which introduces new water to the system. Is the hose bringing replacement tap water coming directly from the tap or is there another reservoir with plain tap water near the reservoir with the nutes? Getting this figured out is really the only thing keeping me from setting one up by the end of the month. I don't have many posts here but I'm a senior member and have a grow thread over at OG, same username... Is 2g/watt with this setup an unreasonable goal after a couple of runs? I think 1g/W is no problem from the size of the stalks on your plants. Hmmm can't think of anything else I will add a link to my growthread over at OG and I have a few pics in my gallery here.

        Peace,
        Phat

        edit- here's my link thanks a lot my man. PhatDaddyNugzYo OG Thread

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          How’s it going PhatDaddy ~ the mechanism that you speck of is a float valve and can be bought at any hydroponics store ~ the device that I got to connect to that float valve is a ¼ “ self-taping water supply line that can be bought at any hardware store, it is the same device that is used to hook up water supply for refrigerators ice makers. Btw maybe sometime later we’ll get into the yield aspect of it but for now first things first.

          Ps……I like the same user name thing BT get just a little on edge whenever folks start changing here user names, makes me think that there running from something? That’s a plus on your behalf PhatDaddy!!
          BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101
          BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style

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            Hey BT its going good, thanks for setting me straight on that. I think I could probably swing that. Its all good I am down with being secure and like to make everyone comfortable I'll be at the 420 Cup next week so I'll be able to meet a few people and I'm really looking forward to the seminars. Thanks for the reply, those massive pot trees you've been turning out are a big plus on your behalf I'll let you know as things develop and will post a thread here as well as the other place

            Peace,
            Phat

            PS I've thrown in a pic of this strain called Rescue Me which is some of the best stuff I've ever puffed

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              Hey BIGTOKE........did you ever get that excel spreedsheet made yet for calculating nutes for a bio system and also the spreedsheet for biulding the system,ect?
              Would be real convenient to have

              GM

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                No I’m still working on that ~ until then I’m still here to answer any questions that you might have.
                BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101
                BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style

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                  How bout this one that doesnt seem to be covered in any great detail, anywhere......

                  What is the acceptable pH range for a bio system to function properly and serve its great purpose in producing fat nugzz?

                  ANd some of these could be helpful for someone looking into your system...
                  In a new cycle...
                  If you use 50 ppm@6.65pH tap water and let it run for about 7 days before introducing plants(if you were in a hurry) ...what pH should you aim for when starting a fresh system before nutes are added? .......aFter nutes?

                  Or do you even adjust the pH when filling up for the first time...?
                  whats you initial pH and ppm of your source water? ......
                  What GH 3part mix (or equiv.)works best for you and how do you apply it?
                  how long should it take to establish a steady pH ?

                  Thanks

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                    How long does it take for the ben. bacteria to establish in the lava rock recirc system approximately??

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                      If you haven’t already read BigTokes: “Basic Water Chemistry Post” then go-here!!!
                      Now lets answer a few of your questions: like ~
                      What is the acceptable pH range for a bio system
                      I will answer this in two ways ~
                      1. I have found that the acceptable (pH) range between 7.0 to 6.5 ~ in the “Veg stage” when roots are young and tender.
                      2. I have found that the acceptable (pH) range between 6.5 to 5.0 ~ [u][i]in the “Flowering stage” when roots are older and tuffer.

                      if you see your Bio-System go out of these ranges for a day or so, that’s fine ~ but if it goes beyond a weed then add what you need to correct the problem.

                      There are several reasons way your (pH) would be going up ~ but they all can be traced back to an increased level of bio-carbonates, I’m going to let you in on a little secrete that I found out the hard way ~ if your using tap-water ~ as the bio-carbonate levels get higher and higher your water-company will flush the lines out periodically, they will also issue a warning of “bowl water advisory” if you here this on your radio it would be a good idea to shot-off the tap-water and use spring-water!!

                      Bottom line is: what type of medium are you using? Did you disinfect the lava rocks before you used them? do you test your tap-water bi-weekly?

                      do you even adjust the pH when filling up for the first time...?
                      No and Yes ~ if my (pH) is above 7.0 up or down ~ I will adjust until it is at 7.0 before adding the nutrients to the system.

                      What GH 3part mix (or equiv.)works best for you and how do you apply it?
                      I follow whatever the label says ~ although it should be noted that this is the correct way you should add nutrients to your reservoir ~ M—G—B ~ NOT ~ G—M—B.

                      how long should it take to establish a steady pH ?
                      After the first two weeks in my system.

                      How long does it take for the ben. bacteria to establish in the lava rock recirc system approximately??
                      ??~Approximately~?? Depends on two factors ~ one is the mineral factor, there is nothing particular about water it self that attracts the Beneficial Bacterium but I have found that they seem to be more attracted to water with higher minerals than water that has been filtered, that one of the reasons that I recommend tap-water, you will accumulate the {BB} a whole lot faster thus cutting down on the time ~ the next is how much chlorine is in the water.
                      • High minerals and low chlorine ~ three-days.
                      • High minerals and high chlorine ~ one-week.
                      • Low minerals and low chlorine ~ one-week.
                      • Low minerals and high chlorine ~ two-week.

                      I have made this list of guide lines as to better help direct those how are interested, these are my recommended safe-zones for the Bio-Bucket Systems
                      BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101
                      BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style

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                        To my main man Big toke:
                        I searched through your writing but you don't seem to mention (or I don't read well enough) about the lights used and how many plants per light. I thought you said something abou 600's which is what I think I want to go with if I can fit 4 plants per 600. I was thinking about doing perhaps 3-4 600's if I get the place I am looking at now, and perhaps try to keep a perpetual harvest going with just a few bubble buckets in the veg room. The problem is I need to seperate 2 lights from the other two. so I can alternate the 12/12 periods so I am not using 2400 watts at once, rather a continual 1200 plus what ever I have in my veg, maybe some fluoros.
                        Does this sound ok, each 4 buckets would be designated a time slot like 4 week flower and 8 weeks flower, so I could just pick up the tops of the buckets and move them along as to keep the chain moving.This is strictly in the idea phase right now so I don't want you to sit down and waste alot of time, just wondering about the lights and I thought I would throw my idea out to you.
                        Life is good!!!



                        Original Overgrower

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                          Supp Protégé ~ lighting question: in my setup I have 6 to 8 buckets per 600watt.

                          Btw concerning the idea, just food for thought? I’ve been there and done that, on the perpetual grow thing ~ it was a lot of work!! But if you have the time to dedicate to it I guess it’s alright ~ myself I like to grow one big ass grow and then kick back and enjoy!!
                          BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101
                          BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style

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                            Ok, so what do you think abou 400's instead of 6's over 4 buckets assumin I only veg till about 14-16 inches? I found a deal to get 400's much cheaper than the 600's like 600 dollars cheaper, so I would rather add an extra 400 and try to keep them a little shorter so the whole canopy can be penetrated by the 400.

                            Sorry if it's kind of silly question, but i like to make sure, never thought about a grow like this before
                            Life is good!!!



                            Original Overgrower

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                              what do you think abou 400's instead of 6's over 4 buckets assumin I only veg till about 14-16 inches?
                              Sounds good to me.
                              BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101
                              BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style

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                                Congrats BT on the mentor status...couldnt happen to a nicer guy.


                                I keep reading that scrogging + bio-buckets= NOPE...not happening.

                                Why?
                                I know that growth is going to be super fast in bio??
                                But surely a determined grower could make it work. Right??

                                Just out of curiousity.....Ive been vegging in my own hybrid biosystem for about 2 weeks now, and growth is TOTALLY UNBELEIVABLE.
                                aRE THE buds going to grow that fast and huge too???
                                If thats the case...a SCROG grow wont even be needed for me to get what I need

                                Thanks to all the personal bio-bucket pioneers that have given me so many ideas to steal and use for my own personal benefit
                                I look at my plants alot more than I used to with recirculating DWC..Just to see how frigging huge they are now !

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