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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Originally posted by GreenGooma View Post
    Nice little setup johnny; pulling all you can smoke out of that little space is a good trick. I'm downsizing to a micro setup myself, those tasty little buds smoke just as well as the big fatties. Good luck!
    Thanks for stopping by GreenGooma, yes my cab supplies my needs and the buds I get are nice compact, hard nugs which are better than any boughts ones I've gotten in the last couple of years prior to growing my own.

    I've just noticed that you are back to a "guest" statis, hope all is well M8

    Cheers Johnny

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Originally posted by Wav3F0rm View Post
    Johnny cheers man, neat set up and i love your cloning style.

    Aye man, you ever think of doing a vertical circular scrog? its perfect for tiny spaces. if you look up circular scrog in google or wherever, this link comes up to weeguru with pictures of people with tiny spaces but great yields, i'm hoping to adventure into something like that soon.
    Hey Wav3F0rm, thanks for the kind words.

    I dont think I could do a vertical circular scrog with out doing some major alterations to my cab. The lights are in a sealed cool chamber to help aleviate the heat.

    I am happy with my current set up and it is suppling me with what I need.

    Cheers Johnny

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    Nice little setup johnny; pulling all you can smoke out of that little space is a good trick. I'm downsizing to a micro setup myself, those tasty little buds smoke just as well as the big fatties. Good luck!

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  • Wav3F0rm
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    Johnny cheers man, neat set up and i love your cloning style.

    Aye man, you ever think of doing a vertical circular scrog? its perfect for tiny spaces. if you look up circular scrog in google or wherever, this link comes up to weeguru with pictures of people with tiny spaces but great yields, i'm hoping to adventure into something like that soon.

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Originally posted by bonsai View Post
    The HPS bulb came from the UK via ebay, the ballast came from ebay.au. Two new bulbs and the ballast cost just under $40 shipped. I was originally planning on using a 130W CFL in the centre, which I've purchased, but then saw the 70W HPS which does slightly more lumens for half the power consumption. I'll have a look through my ebay history and see if the ballast seller has any currently, will PM you if there's anything going at a good price.
    I've got 24 cree XP-E 3W LEDs on their way from cutter electronics, haven't used them yet. The plan is to use those in veg, have the plants stretch up to them then add the HPS down the guts for flower for soil-to-tip budsicles.
    Did you DIY your LED? Where did you get a heatsink from? Jaycar etc seem $$$
    p.s. i was born and raised on the gold coast. been a few years since I visited though! Hope Sufferers Parasite is still as plastic and tragic as it's always been
    I'm using the MR16 type replacement LED modules, which are fully sealed with the casing being the "heatsink" (very cool to touch). Iv'e looked at the Cree types as well and will probably get some in the future to try. Would love to see the finished product of you LED's, so make sure you put up some pics hey.

    And yes Surfers is still as plastic and tragic as ever. The only time I go there is work related these days. i just wish they would stop catering for all tha Asian's and concentrate on us locals and fellow Aussie's.

    Cheers Johnny

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  • bonsai
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    The HPS bulb came from the UK via ebay, the ballast came from ebay.au. Two new bulbs and the ballast cost just under $40 shipped. I was originally planning on using a 130W CFL in the centre, which I've purchased, but then saw the 70W HPS which does slightly more lumens for half the power consumption. I'll have a look through my ebay history and see if the ballast seller has any currently, will PM you if there's anything going at a good price.
    I've got 24 cree XP-E 3W LEDs on their way from cutter electronics, haven't used them yet. The plan is to use those in veg, have the plants stretch up to them then add the HPS down the guts for flower for soil-to-tip budsicles.
    Did you DIY your LED? Where did you get a heatsink from? Jaycar etc seem $$$
    p.s. i was born and raised on the gold coast. been a few years since I visited though! Hope Sufferers Parasite is still as plastic and tragic as it's always been

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Originally posted by bonsai View Post
    Sorry I mistyped, I only meant to reference the width of the PC case; I saw the new cab it's excellent, especially the slide out base. I need to add proper roller rails to my next one.(pic from the back, front slides out as joined set of 3 drawers), 3x 22W diy veg leds up top with a 70W HPS barebulb vertical in the middle. 35cm of usable vertical space and diy microcontroller setup running everything. Taking my time, will post here in the micro forum when there's something worth seeing.
    Looks like you have roughly the same height and about the same width as one side of mine, so I'm watching yours with interest.
    Hey Bonsai

    Looking forward to seeing you cab up and running. It all sound interesting, a Q for you, where did you get the 70W HPS from???, as I have not seen them that small anywhere up in SE Qld. Did you buy it locally or from the states???
    How are you finding the LED's, Iv'e got 1 in the flowering cab as extra lighting to fill in a dead spot and have another here ready to go when I figure out it's best home.

    Will be keeping an eye out for your post's, looking forward to seeing how you little hps goes.

    Cheers Johnny

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  • bonsai
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    Originally posted by johnnybsmokin View Post
    Have you picks of your "cab" ???, always like to see how others are growing. I started with a Pc grow that Iv'e yoused for the last year but I have just built a cab to fit into the hidey hole where the Pc used to sit.
    Sorry I mistyped, I only meant to reference the width of the PC case; I saw the new cab it's excellent, especially the slide out base. I need to add proper roller rails to my next one.(pic from the back, front slides out as joined set of 3 drawers), 3x 22W diy veg leds up top with a 70W HPS barebulb vertical in the middle. 35cm of usable vertical space and diy microcontroller setup running everything. Taking my time, will post here in the micro forum when there's something worth seeing.
    Looks like you have roughly the same height and about the same width as one side of mine, so I'm watching yours with interest.

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Hey Bonsai

    Thanks for stopping by.

    Originally posted by bonsai View Post
    Nice work mate, consistent output is a great thing.
    Are you using tap water? The chlorine isnt good for your microbes, will kill them off. Good to see you re-using milk containers, I've nearly finished a micro cab designed to fit 5x 3L milk jugs or a dozen 1L. Have you considered switching to the square 1L plastic milk containers? You'll get two side by side in a PC case and being square they make more efficient use of the volume. Also, on your earlier pics I can see roots through the sides of the pot. The light is damaging the roots. Worth grabbing a $2 can of acrylic black spray paint from a bargain shop and giving the sides a blast - you'll still be able to see the roots from the bottom that way.
    Rain water all the way, have been since I started growing "organically" over a year ago.

    I did consider using the 1 litre containers, but when I fitted them in with a very tight fit I realized that I blocked of most of the ventilation/air flow inside the cab. So I looked and thought the round 1's would allow the air flow better.

    The pics you see the roots in is probably the only container that does not have a continous label all the way around the "pot", so i haven't really worried about it and I haven't found any problems with the container before. I have black paint at home so maybe when it is done and between grows as it has a plant in it at the moment.

    Have you picks of your "cab" ???, always like to see how others are growing. I started with a Pc grow that Iv'e yoused for the last year but I have just built a cab to fit into the hidey hole where the Pc used to sit. Haven't really gained any size in the width and length but have gained and extra 150mm/6 inchs in height, and it is easier to access the "girls" as well.

    Before and now

    and when it is opened

    These current plants are out of the Pc grow so Iv'e had to raise them up to hit the lights, the next 1's are due to go in next week if there current growth continues as it is. Am looking forward to see if the numbers increase with the extra height.

    Cheers Johnny
    Last edited by johnnybsmokin; 05-22-2011, 03:14. Reason: added some pics

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  • bonsai
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    Nice work mate, consistent output is a great thing.
    Are you using tap water? The chlorine isnt good for your microbes, will kill them off. Good to see you re-using milk containers, I've nearly finished a micro cab designed to fit 5x 3L milk jugs or a dozen 1L. Have you considered switching to the square 1L plastic milk containers? You'll get two side by side in a PC case and being square they make more efficient use of the volume. Also, on your earlier pics I can see roots through the sides of the pot. The light is damaging the roots. Worth grabbing a $2 can of acrylic black spray paint from a bargain shop and giving the sides a blast - you'll still be able to see the roots from the bottom that way.

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Update time

    Hello all once again, thought it was time to update with some photos, so here they are.

    These 2 pics are from the next in line to be harvested, they are currently 9 weeks old and have about 2 weeks to go.



    These 2 pics are the next inline which are now 4 1/2 weeks old and are comming along nicely.



    And the next ones which are still under 24 hour light and due to be switched to 12/12 next week. (well at leaset 1 is, the other 1 on the right sufferd from wilting and was set back a bit so I will give her another week of 12/12 light before flowering)



    And the last pic is of 1 of the current cut's waiting to develope it's roots. This was taken at about 11 days into the 12/12 regeme and shows some nice pistills. It will root just fine but it will take time to grow and ultimatley reveg before showing good and vigorus growth. This takes about 3 weeks after planting and have found that it reduces the "streaching" quite a bit in the first couple of weeks.



    I hope you all enjoy and stay tuned for the next round of pics comming soon.

    Cheers Johnny

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Hi again gloryoskie

    Originally posted by gloryoskie View Post
    Nice clones, have you always used the water method? Also do you change the water at all during your process? I use Jiffy Pucks soaked in a kelp/B1 solution

    What lights do you use in your clone/veg room? I use one 6500k coil 23watt cfl.

    Nice rig, I like to see other working micro sogs, what other members have inspired your grow? Blynx has some worthy grows.

    Referencing your calculations for cost/yield, 2 bucks a gram is fine with me, too.
    Pretty much always used plain water, have tried other methods, but this gives me the most consistent results. Many years ago I use to use a "bubbler" which works great but as I am trying to be "stealth", the noise of the pump and bubbles would be a dead give away.

    In my veg cab I use 2 lights, 1 10 watt cfl in a reflector and one pl-s which is 11 watt. A pic for you to see the set up.



    Its a bit messy looking in there but very functional. I can remove the timber shelf for extra height if I need to and the "yellow" reflector is moved up and down to keep light just above plant tips.

    As far as members inspirations...., there are a lot, you know a bit from here and there. I do base a lot of my current growing methods on "Drbudgreengenes" style of container size and full submersion watereing. Looking at what the "drbud" acheives is inspiational. I got a lot of info and inspiration from the "Pc growers section" in these forums and really just combined all the info that this wonderful site has to offer.

    Yes $2 a gram is good for me too, I get to smoke good consistent bud at a fraction of the street price and I don't support the "black market" and risk being busted doing a "buy" any more. I don't use a lot so what I am producing keeps me goiing just nicely.

    Cheers Johnny

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    Nice clones, have you always used the water method? Also do you change the water at all during your process? I use Jiffy Pucks soaked in a kelp/B1 solution

    What lights do you use in your clone/veg room? I use one 6500k coil 23watt cfl.

    Nice rig, I like to see other working micro sogs, what other members have inspired your grow? Blynx has some worthy grows.

    Referencing your calculations for cost/yield, 2 bucks a gram is fine with me, too.

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Ok some pic updates for you all to enjoy.

    My clonning method



    These roots are about 3 weeks old from cutting,taken from mum


    The next generation planted and placed in there humidy crib for the first couple of days and then hardened off and then to vegged for about 2-3 weeks before 12/12 schedule




    The last 2 to be put into 12/12. These 2 are 12 days into flower and are cuts of the last lot put into flower and taken when about 12 days into 12/12



    They are not stretching like cuts taken from the mum but they tend to be a lot bushier than a normal cut. Usually I would have to top the normal cuts/clones to encourage side branching but these do it on their own.

    The next pics are from my 6 week olds doing their thing



    And a pic of the latest bud size of what I am currently achieving, 3-4 of these main buds every 4 weeks as well as the smaller ones.



    I had already chopped 1 a couple of days before taking the last pic, it seemed to be well and truely ready almost a week before this 1.

    That will do it for now so untill next time

    Cheers, Johnny
    Last edited by johnnybsmokin; 04-30-2011, 21:02. Reason: spell check next time...lol

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  • johnnybsmokin
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    Hey gloryoskie

    Originally posted by gloryoskie View Post
    Hey JohnnyB,

    My second run almost doubled my yield too, from 4g's per to 7g's per plant. How many plants do you pull/place at a time? Do you veg by time or height? I do micro sog too, two in two out every 25 days. I admire your home brew skills too, cool as hell man.
    Thanks for stopping bye

    I tend to veg for height usually and try to "guess" for the finished height. It's been a little more difficult lately as i am now taking cuts from clones that are about 12 days into flower and there is definately a different growth pattern compared to cuts taken from the mum. They don't tend to grow as quickly but are "bushier" from the start.

    I am pulling 2 in and 2 out about every 4 weeks with 6 plants on the go ata a time. I have found that my strain ( Nirvana Special ) is about an 11-12 week finisher.

    Thanks for the "admiration for the home brewing skills", it's good to be able to enjoy the "fun" things in life at a cheap cost, plus they are great hobbies as well.


    Hey stonedwarrior

    what the ? is with your desired yeilds, dude? I chopped and smoked a 5 gram plant yesterday - and I havent been smoking bud in ages!

    nothing against what you're doing, at all, but man, for the amount of power you're using... you could probably go out n buy a half oz and be done with it...

    Now, someone gave me the same advice over on another forum, and i told them to stick it so feel free to tell me the same, but really, the amount of effort you're putting in just isn't matching up to the reward you're getting
    No mate, not going to tell you to "stick it", it's a hobbie that gives me pleasure in more ways than 1 and supplies me with what I want in terms of "herb". I don't smoke alot, mainly small amount to help with pain relief and usually in evenings. Can't take the chance now days to smoke during day and then drive with the new drug testing etc and work.

    Hell man, 5 grams in 1 day is a lot, thats nearly a 1/4 oz, you must have been nearly flying with that amout....lol, but each to there own. And as far as "cost" go for production, a few cents an hour is bugger all for running costs and it reaaly is only cents an hour to run the cab. I know this for a fact as we have a "meter" installed with a monitor in kitchen showing running cost's per hour etc. When the cab come on it is lucky to incresae the "usage" by 1-2 cents an hour. That equates to about 50 cents a day, $3.50 a week, $14 a month which give me about a 1/4 oz, much cheaper than the $80-$100 you pay on the street and better quality (even under cfl's) than is normally bought.

    Each to there own I suppose, but thanks for the comments all are appreciated, good and/or negative etc.

    Cheers Johhny

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