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    #31
    Originally posted by TychoMonolyth View Post
    Got ya. I used to make this stuff and it takes 4 weeks before I can put anything in it.
    yeah, should be okay but im still starting beans in a dif mix in solos, so this will still have some time to cook if it needs until the seedlings are ready to come out of solos. And I still have to pop them.

    Originally posted by trichrider View Post
    ...that nailgun sure is fun...lol
    looks like the camera is too...jk
    it takes forever to upload all those images so ya getting rep fer that.
    DF has been helpful is an understatement, and he should be flattered you've mirrored his build nicely.


    ? ...you can still use the guano tea etc.
    yeah, first time using a nailgun so it was kinda fun haha. as for the camera/pics, yeah I wanted to document it, there def more that I didn't upload. and a lot turned sideways, so even opened them in photoshop to orientate them right haha. so thanks for that lmao

    as far as the guano tea, im sure it wouldn't hurt, but I think I wanna see how this works out with just ro water, before I start changing things up. we shall see

    Originally posted by stewart169 View Post
    Man thats a lot of work and potential for goodness. Id love to have room to do that type of thing. I would do that in a heartbeat and good luck!! What kind of beans ? Anything else going in ??
    def a lot of work, but so was doing the teas all the time, this is just more work up front, and lots less the rest of the time. i dont have room either here, these are pretty small ass tents rly. will do larger beds under larger lights after this, just wanna get a feel for it first. Not sure on the beans, think I have it mostly sorted out.

    Originally posted by Great outdoors View Post
    That looks like a pretty hot mix to me.
    Why did you separate the pieces of wood from the compost? Especially if you plan to use this soil long term no till, the wood pieces were only a good thing.
    I would hit it with some compost tea right away to speed the cooking.
    Your pH will be all over the place without time to cook as well..
    there is def a lot of things in the mix, and i pulled out all the stuff that wasn't ready(most of it anyways, along with some other crap like fuzz and plastic, got the only compost i could get my hands on, and it def had to get sorted out.) I was thinking about doing a compost tea, but it should have enough time to do its things before the plants get moved it.



    and to everyone else, thanks for stopping by. this should be a fun ride, roll a doobie or do some dabs, and lets watch this project roll out.

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      #32
      This was my last batch.



      It was pretty good but it could have been hotter so I'll amend to fit MGT's recipe for next season.

      I use this compost as the base and it's well cooked. I get a half load and give some away to friends.

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        #33
        Well, after much debate, the seeds were picked for this run, going with 3 flavors, we have 4 Babu by CSI Humboldt, which a cross of Bubba Kush and Katsu, we have Magillas Choice by Cannarado, which is a cross of Platinum Cookies and Grape Pie, and finally we have OG Dubble which is also by Cannarado and is a cross of Sour Dubble and Legend OG

        so, got them picked, and they are now in shot glasses of water for about 5 min now, hope to have them sprouted tomorrow and then they can go in some seedling potting mix, which I will get mixed tomorrow and share what the mix is.

        Should be a fun run.

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          #34
          Excellent selections, and nice job on the tent beds and soil mixing. Can't wait to see what they can do!

          Peace
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            #35
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              #36
              The seeds have sunk

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                #37
                Originally posted by TychoMonolyth View Post
                This was my last batch.

                It was pretty good but it could have been hotter so I'll amend to fit MGT's recipe for next season.

                I use this compost as the base and it's well cooked. I get a half load and give some away to friends.
                thats a nice pile, yeah I only mixed about 120 gallons for this run. btw, not 'my' recipe, comes from a post of Dank Franks, I just did the math to make it work for how much I needed, I linked to his post in one of the first posts in this thread. Can't wait to see how it works for you next time, and yeah getting compost in bulk is the way to go, enough for you and friends lol.

                Originally posted by DopeyMcSmoker View Post
                Excellent selections, and nice job on the tent beds and soil mixing. Can't wait to see what they can do!

                Peace
                DM
                Yeah, took me a minuted to select the choices, I still have some beans I have to run that were given to me as test seeds, I will be doing those after I test these soil beds. You know who you are, cant wait to get this going...

                Got the lights hung up, be rocking 600w mh, then 600w hps for tent 1, and hgl xb300 for the other tent. However, the seedlings will start out in tent 3 under a small 2x2 t5 until they are ready to go in the beds. I will water the beds at the same time the seeds go into small cups after the sprout(later today?)

                beds are filled with mix, lights are hung, seeds have sunk in the water...just have to get the ducting and fans hooked up, the lights wired up, hook up the ro filter and water the beds. Things are finally moving along.

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                  #38


                  Can't wait to see the side by side between those to light setups. That's going to have me on the edge of my seat to be honest. The HGLEDs didn't grow bad meds when I used them. They'll have their own room here, soon enough.

                  Nice work, MGT.



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                    #39
                    Originally posted by dank.frank View Post


                    Can't wait to see the side by side between those to light setups. That's going to have me on the edge of my seat to be honest. The HGLEDs didn't grow bad meds when I used them. They'll have their own room here, soon enough.

                    Nice work, MGT.



                    dank.Frank
                    Hell yeah man, be nice to see for sure, will have 2 of each strain in each tent, I know they not clones, and from seed, so there will be some variation anyways, but should still be nice to see the difference. Have the next two runs mostly planned out as well.

                    The stuff I vegged under the light did very well, I wish that run could have finished...but it will be continued soon.

                    Just waiting on these beans to pop a taproot out,and I'll mix up some dirt for the soon to be seedlings, got a fan hung and working on some ducting and wiring.

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                      #40
                      My personal cloning medium which makes roughly 1.5 cu ft:

                      5 gal peat
                      2.75 gal coir
                      .75 gal EWC
                      .75 gal composted cow manure
                      .5 gal chunky perlite
                      .5 gal vermiculite

                      Cloning Amendment Recipe:

                      2/3c crab meal
                      2/3c kelp meal
                      2/3c pH mineral mix*
                      2 tbsp DE/Calcium Bentonite

                      1 tbsp Bio-Vam
                      1 tbsp Bio-Ag Endo Vam


                      From the same thread...



                      dank.Frank
                      Bunch of fake ass neo-capitalists masquerading as counter
                      culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled
                      self-justifications catering to the morally
                      ambiguous for the sake of the
                      ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR



                      Canna Caramels ---> click here Organic Soil ---> click here Current Grow --> click here

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by dank.frank View Post
                        My personal cloning medium which makes roughly 1.5 cu ft:

                        5 gal peat
                        2.75 gal coir
                        .75 gal EWC
                        .75 gal composted cow manure
                        .5 gal chunky perlite
                        .5 gal vermiculite

                        Cloning Amendment Recipe:

                        2/3c crab meal
                        2/3c kelp meal
                        2/3c pH mineral mix*
                        2 tbsp DE/Calcium Bentonite

                        1 tbsp Bio-Vam
                        1 tbsp Bio-Ag Endo Vam


                        From the same thread...



                        dank.Frank
                        thanks, I was thinking about that but was unsure if it needs time to cook or not, my thoughts were since its just crab and kelp that it needs no time. i have everything on hand to make that. have the bio-vam and bio-ag endo vam as well

                        oh and one more update until I get the scrubber and scrubber venting up...



                        ...let there be light..

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                          #42
                          Just mix and plant. I'll be re-amending my soil bed this evening, actually, and will be transplanting immediately after doing so.

                          A good rule of thumb, is to get the entire soil bed watered in, before ever planting in it. You'll know when you hit a true saturation point by the behavior of the water. If it runs out too quickly after pouring, ie runs through, the soil has become hydrophobic and is too dry. Water should rest on soil surface for a couple seconds and then begin to sink into the media, at a rather even rate. Dry soil will pull away from the side of the bed.

                          Here's the best trick for me, personally though. Watch the humidity in your room. When you first water and the bed is saturated, notice RH in the room after 15 minutes. When the bed is drying out, RH will drop. You can learn when your soil is dry, based on RH.

                          I know my room will sit around 58-64% when the bed is fully saturated. When the soil is getting overly dry, the room will sit around 25-33%. When the room gets down below 40%, I know it's generally a good time to water.

                          You'll also notice the water under the bed, the runoff, will evaporate and impact this. Too much run off, without the radiant heat from HID, is an interesting nuance with LED.

                          It's really not that difficult once you find some sort of metric that is relevant to your environment to use as a gauge. That's better than saying so many gallons every so many days without actually factoring in how the room itself is performing...



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                          culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled
                          self-justifications catering to the morally
                          ambiguous for the sake of the
                          ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR



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                            #43
                            that's an interesting observation DF.
                            i sometimes have enormous RH swings even without having runoff. of course normal RH swings wildly when atmospheric pressure changes when swapping from high to low.
                            bottom watering is what i consider the cause...i sometimes do that because of bugs, and that the pots/plants draw up what water they need...don't really know for sure, i try so many different methods.
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                              #44
                              I'm really digging this MGT! I've reamended most of my soil based on franks recipe (slight tweaks where i had to use whats available to me) and can't wait for the next run to see how it does.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by dank.frank View Post
                                Just mix and plant.
                                dank.Frank
                                thanks much Frank, sounds like a plan

                                Originally posted by Fitzera View Post
                                I'm really digging this MGT! I've reamended most of my soil based on franks recipe (slight tweaks where i had to use whats available to me) and can't wait for the next run to see how it does.
                                Hell yeah, its quite the mix that's for sure, I know I'm excited to see how this turns out.

                                So, after reading the clone/seeding mix, I worked out a lil math to figure out how much needed to fill my 12 solo cups, and this is what I came up. Also, as far as the ph mineral mix, I dont have any oyster shell so I just used equal parts dolomite and gypsum.

                                Here is what I came up with, and then I got it all mixed as you can see in picture below.

                                11 1/2 cups peat
                                6 1/3 cups coir
                                1 3/4 cups ewc
                                1 3/4 cups black kow
                                2 1/3 cups perlite

                                1 1/2 tablespoon crab meal
                                1 1/2 tablespoon kelp
                                2 2/4 teaspoon dolomite lime
                                2 3/4 teaspoon gypsum
                                3/4 teaspoon DE/Calcium Bentonite

                                16 oz solo cups
                                192 oz of mix needed
                                192 oz is 1.5 gal

                                (basically converted everything into cups and tbsp/tsp, and divided everything by 7, and rounded to the nearest easy measurement, as I only needed 1.5 gal of this mix, to fill my 12 solo cups)

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