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    #31
    Hooray, it’s time for another update of the ladies! I’m happy to see they seem happy in the larger greenhouse. These ones switched on 4/3.

    GMOGKB #3 - This one is the squat stalky girl. I probably should have took that into consideration when I moved her into her spot.. there are only 2 plants that have neighbors on 3 sides and she’s one of them.. hindsight.

    Current height: 48 inches (Starting height: 37 inches)



    GMOGKB #4 - it’s going to be close to see if #1 or #4 finishes taller, they both stand above the crowd. This girl only has 1 neighbor, I probably should have put #3 here. What I’m happy to see is that even with those legs she has nice strong branches, she won’t need too much support.

    Current height: 60 inches (Starting height: 41 inches)

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      #32
      These two were also switched on 4/3.

      PoisonBreath #1 - Happy little bush.

      Current height 49.5 inches (Starting height: 37 inches)


      ScoutBreath #1 - I thought this plant would stretch a little more than it did. Hopefully she’s saving her energy for better things!

      Current height: 50 inches (Starting height: 37.5 inches)



      I want everyone to know I’m doing my part to help combat this virus crisis by continually running this solar powered air purifier. (Can you spot the GMOGKB bro?)



      Most of the other plants in here are around 5 weeks old. They were moved here in smaller containers, and really don’t seem to be thrilled about it. There are 33 plants right now, I think I can fit 43 when “full”. Eventually I hope to have things running perpetually.
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        #33
        My plan is to save some of this pollen for future use. If I can keep it viable for 3-6 months would be ideal. I am using the advice from Douglas.Curtis in his thread outlining how to make and store feminized pollen.

        Storing Your Pollen for Years (Possibly 10+ Years):

        Pollen can be stored for a long time in a freezer, as long as it has been thoroughly dried. Silica packs do not absorb down to a low enough relative humidity, so dried rice is used.

        Heat an open quart jar of un-cooked rice at 150F-170F for at least 12hrs (anyone know if you can shorten this?). Seal the jar with a lid and ring, and let it cool to room temperature. A wide mouth quart jar is significantly easier to open than a peanut butter jar. The vacuum seal formed while cooling down can be awful. lol

        Collect your pollen and carefully transfer it to a foil baking cup or other small container which fits in the jar. Place the foil cup on top of the rice and seal the pollen in the rice container. Set the jar in a cool, dark place for 7 days. Cold temperatures will slow the drying.

        (Optional: Toast some flour in a skillet on the stove until it is a dark tan color, then seal hot in another glass, airtight container and let cool to room temperature. This will remove the moisture from the flour. Remove the pollen from the dried rice jar and mix it at a ratio of 1 part pollen to 50 parts flour.) Pollen which has been properly dried does not need flour/cornstarch/rice-grains during storage. You can safely leave the option of 'dilution' till the time you actually use the pollen. I've personally switched to storing pure pollen, since who knows what the future will bring.

        Seal the mixed pollen in small containers, foil or plastic sealed pouches or (preferred) 1.5ml centrifuge tubes.

        LABEL your containers carefully, using the specific plant name, date and any other information you believe you'll remember later. (Because there's a good chance you won't)

        Seal the containers in a thermos and keep it in your freezer. The thermos acts as an additional thermal protection barrier, just in case you have a freezer issue years down the line. It also makes transferring pollen from one place to another a safe operation. Just be sure to keep the thermos at freezing temps, and to limit the amount of time outside the freezer.
        This is normal male pollen, not feminized, but of course that doesn’t matter.



        I actually had to bring the plants in the house for 24 hours to collect some pollen, the bees were literally stealing it all before I could grab any. Anyhow it was collected on a plastic plate, with a paper towel over it for 24 hours to dry. We’re 4 months into the dry season, and humidity is like 45-50% on average.



        The pollen will be stored in these centrifuge tubes. Each tube will have the name and date it was collected. I don’t know why I don’t really like the idea of using the dried rice. I already had other desiccants on hand here at the house, so this is what I came up with...



        Two jars, the smaller one needs to fit into the larger one. The smaller one on the left is filled with silica crystal cat liter. The one on the right is filled with Calcium chloride, which is sold for drying out closets and such. I have been using “Damp Rid” brand Calcium chloride to dry/store mushrooms for years. However, this chemical will turn liquid as it absorbs a lot of water. This is the reason for having two jars, if it turns liquid it won’t ruin everything. I would prefer to get “Dry rite” which is Calcium sulphate (gypsum) and doesn’t turn liquid, but it’s not as easy to obtain OTC.



        Leave the lid off the inside jar, so that the desiccant below can still dry the air around the tubes. The silica gel was used mostly to stand the tubes up, but it certainly doesn’t hurt that it’s another desiccant.



        All sealed up and ready for the freezer. It seems only appropriate that it’s in a Chunky salsa right?
        A collection of Chunky’s Bagseeds

        Hookahhead's Worm Farm!

        Harvesting and Processing Neem

        Monkey Shit (Jamaican bagseed)

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          #34
          those should start smelling soon, good time to toss pollen on some bottom branches...

          i'd make more seeds than sensi this round, supply of seeds could disappear faster than TP in the future.

          and old sick seedmakers and genetic hoarders could die and our plants with us.

          in terms of prepping seeds and sensi are at the top of my list.
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            #35
            Doing a great job on these Hookahhead I agree with Chunkypigs make more seeds the more the merrier so they say
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              #36
              Originally posted by Chunkypigs View Post
              those should start smelling soon, good time to toss pollen on some bottom branches...

              i'd make more seeds than sensi this round, supply of seeds could disappear faster than TP in the future.

              and old sick seedmakers and genetic hoarders could die and our plants with us.

              in terms of prepping seeds and sensi are at the top of my list.
              It’s not a fun thing to think about, but you’re certainly right.

              Also flowering along side these plants are an OGKZ and Trainwreck (both Humbolt seed) and a Gorilla Scout (Paisa seeds) that came to me as clones from another grower down here. They’re plants 2-4 on the left side of the green house. They moved with the first two groups, so they’re the same age 2-2.5 weeks. Everything only has a faint smell so far, except the PoisonBreath #2. I’m not good at describing smells, and it will probably change a good bit before harvest, but there is no doubt that plant is putting off some stink.

              Don’t worry, I’m only storing some of the pollen! I am putting the fresh stuff to use too. I have to admit it’s been almost too much fun painting the happy little trees with my paintbrush, RIP Bob Ross.

              This is my plant “Stinkbug” which was some sort of Kushy type bag seed. This is literally the lowest bud on the plant. I really enjoy all aspects of her, except that spider mites absolutely love her. Here she is knocked up with the Headband x OGKB #1 male. He’s definitely the winner out of the first 3 males.



              I questioned whether I wanted to post this picture because of the SM damage, but oh well here it is. Unfortunately it’s not going to be the last picture like this in the thread. I am currently battling them in the greenhouses, and it will be an ongoing struggle. As I’ve pointed out before I’m in the tropics, and my area is very hot and dry right now. Perfect weather for a mite party. I am in an agricultural area, which means other crops are heavily sprayed with pesticides. So my lush green plants with no pesticide is pretty damn inviting.

              I can’t obtain beneficial predators without a consultation by a professional, who wouldn’t know the first thing about growing Jamaican tomatoes. I have a few different strategies I’m using currently, but if anyone has some tips I’m happy to hear them. At the very least this will be a good way to look for SM resistance lol. The Monkey Shit plants have decent resistance, but lack a lot of smell/taste. I’ve dusted a few of them with the various males.
              A collection of Chunky’s Bagseeds

              Hookahhead's Worm Farm!

              Harvesting and Processing Neem

              Monkey Shit (Jamaican bagseed)

              Winogradsky Columns

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                #37
                Originally posted by Hookahhead View Post
                These two were also switched on 4/3.

                PoisonBreath #1 - Happy little bush.

                Current height 49.5 inches (Starting height: 37 inches)
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                ScoutBreath #1 - I thought this plant would stretch a little more than it did. Hopefully she’s saving her energy for better things!

                Current height: 50 inches (Starting height: 37.5 inches)
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                I want everyone to know I’m doing my part to help combat this virus crisis by continually running this solar powered air purifier. (Can you spot the GMOGKB bro?)

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                Most of the other plants in here are around 5 weeks old. They were moved here in smaller containers, and really don’t seem to be thrilled about it. There are 33 plants right now, I think I can fit 43 when “full”. Eventually I hope to have things running perpetually.
                I’m excited for you hookah I have a bunch of chunky seeds we’re gonna pop every single one of them and it’s all going outside

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Hookahhead View Post
                  It’s not a fun thing to think about, but you’re certainly right.

                  Also flowering along side these plants are an OGKZ and Trainwreck (both Humbolt seed) and a Gorilla Scout (Paisa seeds) that came to me as clones from another grower down here. They’re plants 2-4 on the left side of the green house. They moved with the first two groups, so they’re the same age 2-2.5 weeks. Everything only has a faint smell so far, except the PoisonBreath #2. I’m not good at describing smells, and it will probably change a good bit before harvest, but there is no doubt that plant is putting off some stink.

                  Don’t worry, I’m only storing some of the pollen! I am putting the fresh stuff to use too. I have to admit it’s been almost too much fun painting the happy little trees with my paintbrush, RIP Bob Ross.

                  This is my plant “Stinkbug” which was some sort of Kushy type bag seed. This is literally the lowest bud on the plant. I really enjoy all aspects of her, except that spider mites absolutely love her. Here she is knocked up with the Headband x OGKB #1 male. He’s definitely the winner out of the first 3 males.

                  View Image

                  I questioned whether I wanted to post this picture because of the SM damage, but oh well here it is. Unfortunately it’s not going to be the last picture like this in the thread. I am currently battling them in the greenhouses, and it will be an ongoing struggle. As I’ve pointed out before I’m in the tropics, and my area is very hot and dry right now. Perfect weather for a mite party. I am in an agricultural area, which means other crops are heavily sprayed with pesticides. So my lush green plants with no pesticide is pretty damn inviting.

                  I can’t obtain beneficial predators without a consultation by a professional, who wouldn’t know the first thing about growing Jamaican tomatoes. I have a few different strategies I’m using currently, but if anyone has some tips I’m happy to hear them. At the very least this will be a good way to look for SM resistance lol. The Monkey Shit plants have decent resistance, but lack a lot of smell/taste. I’ve dusted a few of them with the various males.

                  Big job to spray ( but I always think the herbs worth the effort)


                  Harkes mechin tecnique, spray wetting agent ( min dilution) back this with Harkers mechin 0.5 per litre while their still damp, leave 30 mins, wash off plain water..repeat 4 days later after inspection and deemed required.


                  Back up ( and imho this size grow needs 2) sulpher Hotbox, 4 hrs on dark period.


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                    #39
                    Cmoon I tried to search for “ Harkes mechin”, “Harkers mechin”, and “mechin technique”. Nothing turned up anything relating to this discussion, so I’m guessing these are possible auto correct? Can you share a link?

                    Spraying an area like this is harder, but not impossible. Unfortunately they are only effective temporarily, and the greenhouse is nothing close to a sealed environment. A lot of the organic pesticides I might feel comfortable with decay rapidly in the heat and UV.

                    We use Dr Bronners and coconut oil as a spray in the smaller greenhouse. Spray it on at night and rinse the plant in the morning. This has been fairly effective at keeping the numbers low. We do not continue this treatment in the larger greenhouse, and that’s where we run into issues.

                    I have been collecting lacewing eggs and larva and moving them to the large greenhouse.



                    The eggs are small and white on a long, thin filament. The filament helps protect them from predation and eating each other. The greenish colored one is closer to hatching. These are small, but fairly easy to spot. However I am not able to collect them anywhere in the numbers I would buy from a supplier.



                    This is a larva I collected off one of the males. If you zoom in you can see the little critter underneath. They will gather dead insects and other debris as a makeshift camouflage. Isn’t nature incredible?
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                      #40
                      Very nice flowers and greenhouse
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                        #41
                        Happy 4/20 everyone! We have to do some updates on the males today!

                        These two switched flower on 4/5

                        ScoutBreath #4 - This plant is a straight pole. It does have a few lateral branches, but they stay close to the main stalk. It’s growing a nice nug on top and has slightly larger pollen sacks than the rest. Honestly, I would love to squeeze the greenhouse full of female plants that grow exactly like this.

                        Current height: 46 inches (Starting height: 23 inches)




                        EDIT: I didn’t even notice the green lacewing larva in that last picture until I posted it! This is exactly why I prefer not to spray my plants with pesticides.

                        Headband x OGKB #2 - I only have 2 of these plants, both males. I managed to kill off all of my other seedlings early on. Sadly, is the only cross that I don’t have more seeds of. Both of the boys came out beautiful, strong plants with tight nodes. I imagine the ladies have to be just as nice.

                        Current height 39.5 inches (Starting height: 18 inches)




                        I apologize that the pictures aren’t the best because of all the bamboo in the background.

                        A collection of Chunky’s Bagseeds

                        Hookahhead's Worm Farm!

                        Harvesting and Processing Neem

                        Monkey Shit (Jamaican bagseed)

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                          #42
                          Another update on the boys. This group was the first plants switched on 3/23, the first post of this thread! Let’s see what they’ve been up to...

                          Headband x OGKB #1 - Can I just say I love this guy? He’s been chosen as the winner out of his group. He’s already dusted a few things in the greenhouse. Check out that bee coming by to score some of the good shit.

                          Current height: 48 inches (Starting height: 18.5 inches)



                          GorillaBreath #1 aka biCurious George - This plant continues to intrigue me. He hasn’t thrown any more pistils as far as I can tell. He’s 99% male, the only place I’ve found female flowers is in the top 3-4 inches of the main kola. They look as though they are making seed, you can see 2 of them just below and to the right of center in the second picture. I can see maybe 6-8 of these “bulges” total... they’re even a little frosted. His clones were killed but I did store some of his pollen.

                          Current height:38 inches (Starting height: 16.5 inches)



                          LocomotiveBreath #2 - This plant is also really hard to get a good photo of because of the bamboo. The plants are wired to their pedestals to keep them from falling, so I can’t easily move them for photos. This plant clearly isn’t as happy as the rest, admittedly they have received water only up until this point and maybe a splash or two of compost tea leftovers... they are still males after all. His pollen has been used sparingly, and some of it is stored, but most likely he won’t make the team cut.

                          Current height: 47 inches (Starting height: 17 inches)


                          Keep in mind all of these plants have been badly molested by the bees the past 2-3 weeks. What you’re seeing are mostly unopened pollen sacks, the bees will even open it themselves when it’s close enough. I did have some OKish photos of the resin on the flower stalks, but after I uploaded them here they were unusable.

                          P.S. I apologize for not responding to everyone’s comments directly, but please know that I do read and appreciate them!
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                            #43
                            I have been working to update the OP with links to the updates for each plant. I know it’s a little messy in here because all of the plants are at different stages, so this way you can check the progress of a specific plant if you’re so inclined. It also helps me keep track of things a little better too!

                            Finally another photo shoot with the ladies. It was hard for me to get good shots due to where they’re positioned in the greenhouse. I mentioned earlier that only 2 plants have neighbors on 3 sides... I’m not sure what I was toking that day, but the whole 2 rows down the middle are like this haha.

                            These plants were switched on 4/7, making today day 16.

                            GMOGKB #1 - Wow she didn’t really grow a lot vertically... but her ass got so much bigger. She became a chubby little bush with nodes kept tight.

                            Current height: 48 inches (Starting height: 43 inches)






                            GMOGKB #2 - I am really enjoying seeing the diversity in these plants. It’s sister plant hardly stretched at all, and this one is the tallest. This is the plant I had trouble getting material off of in the beginning, apparently she didn’t want to make any lowers because she was saving for up top. I had a tough time getting a shot of her.

                            Current height 63.5 inches (Starting height: 47 inches)


                            A collection of Chunky’s Bagseeds

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                            Harvesting and Processing Neem

                            Monkey Shit (Jamaican bagseed)

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                              #44
                              Another update on the ladies. These were the first girls switched on 3/28 putting us on Day 29!

                              GMOGKB #5 - Every time I step into the large greenhouse I am grateful for Chunky’s generosity. I mean just look at this girl.. those long slender leaves, and nodes filled with bud. I think she likes it here in the tropics.

                              Current height: 56 inches (Starting height: 39 inches




                              PoisonBreath #2 - I love seeing the contrast between the different plants. I think I’m starting to be able to see where CookieBoi is dominant or not. This one still smells great, though the smell has turned less funky and more pleasant.

                              Current height: 44 inches (Starting height: 37 inches)


                              I did take pictures of the buds as they are starting to frost up. Unfortunately I can’t see my screen too well while I’m in the greenhouse and I have to look through the pictures later. None of them really turned out, so next time we see these plants should be pretty exciting!

                              I had to repair a small hole in the plastic today, so I grabbed a quick shot from above.

                              Last edited by Hookahhead; 04-27-2020, 00:47.
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                              Harvesting and Processing Neem

                              Monkey Shit (Jamaican bagseed)

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                                #45
                                Here we go again with another update. I don’t want to invite bigger issues, but I’m bit suprised that all of these plants seem to be loving the intense tropical sun. Ambient temperature is 100F during the day and RH has been hanging around 45-50%.. still 0 fucks given by these “less adapted” ladies. These the last females to flip, so we’re almost done with the Week 2 updates! Sorry the pictures are terrible, it’s really hard to get a good shot of the plants because of where they’re positioned.

                                LocomotiveBreath #1 - nothing too exciting to say yet. Happy healthy girl soaking up the sun.

                                Current height: 53 inches (Starting height: 38 inches)


                                ScoutBreath #2 - Not much to say about her yet either. All of the ScoutBreath plants have thick stems and just an overall “nice” look to them. I’m pretty sure this one has stretched the least..

                                Current height 49.5 inches (Starting height: 43 inches)



                                The plastic sheeting was starting to degrade and tear from the sun and wind, even though we opted for the higher quality stuff. We decided to tear it all off and replace it with hard plastic before the rains roll in again. Thanks for stopping by!

                                A collection of Chunky’s Bagseeds

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