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    RubeGoldberg's 2 room showdown! 6x750DE VS 4x315LEC & 4x600HPS

    Summer is over and temps are nice enough for air exchange growing again.

    My old thread linked here details the building of room 1, which initially was 8x600w it can give you an idea on the construction etc..


    Room 1 will now house 6 Illuminaire 600/750 double ended lights with wide reflectors to deal with the ceiling height.

    Room 2 is a mirror of room 1 (sorry for lack of construction pics)
    It now houses 4, 315w Sunsystem Light Emitting Ceramics and 4, 600w HPS light in a staggered pattern.


    Both rooms should hopefully offer an improvement over the 8x600w original configuration of room 1.


    Genetics this run will be the BC cutting of "BUBBA KUSH" with approx 40 plants in each room. Below is a pic from the last day of VEG before the plants were divided between 2 rooms.





    To get us started on this Diary, here are both rooms at day 3 of bloom, plants have been spread out, they will get a trellice net in 1 week or so.

    ROOM 1 (600/750w double ended HPS)



    ROOM 2 (Mix of 600wHPS and 315wLEC)

    Rube's 8x600W

    Rube's 2 room show down. Double ended VS Single Ended w/ CMH

    #2
    Damnit, two lights I want. Looks sharp.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Mikell View Post
      Damnit, two lights I want. Looks sharp.
      thx man! im curious to see how the double ended lights go. got them up to 600W right now and so far no light issues though, im curious to see how the bubba stretches though, everybody I know who runs it does it as a bigger 5-6 foot plant
      Rube's 8x600W

      Rube's 2 room show down. Double ended VS Single Ended w/ CMH

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        #4
        Looking good nice to see if the mix of hps and cmh outperform the de.

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          #5
          Good looking room. Following along.
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          Video Journals of my grows: GastroGrowers YouTube Channel

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            #6
            Looks great. I always enjoy a nice bubba kush, what are your yields off a single bubba plant going into flower at that size. I have a couple bubba bag seed that I've been thinking about lately.

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              #7
              What size are your rooms your 4800 watts was handling.....I can see where the 6-750 DE`s woul be comparable , but the other room only adds up to 3660 watts , so I guess you`ll keep the first room on 600 mode ?....anyways.....

              Always liked seein the classic red tuck tape and panda film on you Canadian guys runs....now....

              Not sure about BC Bubba Kush , but clone only Pre 98 Bubba`s the slowest vegging no stretch lowest yielding plant I ever grew , but the smoke was as awesome a coffee kush knock your ass out insomnia and arthritis meds that I`ve had to this day.....Miss my headstash care pkgs from the left coast....lol....anyways....

              Clean setup and here`s hopin for a bumper crop from both rooms come Harvey....Are you flippin those rooms every 12 hrs for perpetual ?.....regardless....

              Thanks for the thread and your time.....

              Peace....DHF.........
              Knowledge is power.....Adapt or perish....

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                #8
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                  #9
                  Looking cleannn

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                    #10
                    im jelly bro
                    wish this was a straightup non mixed light a-b-c grow
                    im on the fence with the 315s and this kinda grow would be useful to me but yeah,
                    good luck , im grabbin my barkolounger and cheetos
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DunHav`nFun View Post
                      What size are your rooms your 4800 watts was handling.....I can see where the 6-750 DE`s woul be comparable , but the other room only adds up to 3660 watts , so I guess you`ll keep the first room on 600 mode ?....anyways.....

                      Always liked seein the classic red tuck tape and panda film on you Canadian guys runs....now....

                      Not sure about BC Bubba Kush , but clone only Pre 98 Bubba`s the slowest vegging no stretch lowest yielding plant I ever grew , but the smoke was as awesome a coffee kush knock your ass out insomnia and arthritis meds that I`ve had to this day.....Miss my headstash care pkgs from the left coast....lol....anyways....

                      Clean setup and here`s hopin for a bumper crop from both rooms come Harvey....Are you flippin those rooms every 12 hrs for perpetual ?.....regardless....

                      Thanks for the thread and your time.....

                      Peace....DHF.........


                      I'll probably ramp them up to 750 if temps allow, but we can compare grams per watt or just girth and visual appearance.


                      I run both rooms at night since im doing air exchange. the wattage isn't really a big draw.

                      BC genetics are weird, if its circulating around the commercial market, i know it will be good, but I know it wont be the same "named genetics" as Americans who I deal with regularly (I work in the hydroponic equipment wholesale market) So its hard to base results off of what anybody other than locals say. Since nobody wants to smuggle clones and tissue culture is still unreliable
                      Last edited by RubeGoldberg; 10-30-2017, 16:37.
                      Rube's 8x600W

                      Rube's 2 room show down. Double ended VS Single Ended w/ CMH

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Boyd Crowder View Post
                        im jelly bro
                        wish this was a straightup non mixed light a-b-c grow
                        im on the fence with the 315s and this kinda grow would be useful to me but yeah,
                        good luck , im grabbin my barkolounger and cheetos


                        make the jump, I know enough commercial guys who swear by 315s where I trusted my jump.

                        its not like random LED tech where some forum guy's friend of a friend totally yielded 20 lbs per light


                        edit: 315's are really better off at mixing the spectrum, haven't really heard anybody blown away by using them on their own
                        Last edited by RubeGoldberg; 10-30-2017, 06:58.
                        Rube's 8x600W

                        Rube's 2 room show down. Double ended VS Single Ended w/ CMH

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by RubeGoldberg View Post
                          Summer is over and temps are nice enough for air exchange growing again.

                          My old thread details the building of room 1, which initially was 8x600w


                          Room 1 will now house 6 Illuminaire 600/750 double ended lights with wide reflectors to deal with the ceiling height.

                          Room 2 is a mirror of room 1 (sorry for lack of construction pics)
                          It now houses 4, 315w Sunsystem Light Emitting Ceramics and 4, 600w HPS light in a staggered pattern.


                          Both rooms should hopefully offer an improvement over the 8x600w original configuration of room 1.


                          Genetics this run will be the BC cutting of "BUBBA KUSH" with approx 40 plants in each room. Below is a pic from the last day of VEG before the plants were divided between 2 rooms.

                          View Image



                          To get us started on this Diary, here are both rooms at day 3 of bloom, plants have been spread out, they will get a trellice net in 1 week or so.

                          ROOM 1 (600/750w double ended HPS)

                          View Image

                          ROOM 2 (Mix of 600wHPS and 315wLEC)

                          View Image

                          Update time, sorry for being lazy guys! These pics were taken last Thursday night, right before we cleaned the bottoms and planned on trellice netting but got too drunk and decided we'd do bad things if we tried. right now im thinking of either staking or trellice netting by hand weaving a grid of nylon twin, since netting is probably too stressful this deep in (2.5 weeks)

                          Also forgot to mention this run we're running the Connoisseur from AN (their base nutrient designed for dialed in grows) based on the fact I know lots of people running Bubba and can predict a lot of this. And at the time of these pics, we're only running a 6 inch intake from outside for BOTH rooms. Which will change for a 6 inch intake for each tomorrow. (the rooms are open in the building so can share intake to an extent)



                          Double Ended Room



                          600HPS 315CMH mix



                          Bud Size (pretty much equal for both rooms right now, but around week 4-5 we should see)
                          https://i.imgur.com/HS8RPsj.jpg
                          Rube's 8x600W

                          Rube's 2 room show down. Double ended VS Single Ended w/ CMH

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                            #14
                            Some pespective for the 10 days of stretch between posts....


                            Keep in mind these angles are not taken from the same vantage point, so use landmarks on the walls like tuck tape or the electric box I meant to cover up with poly as references.


                            Rube's 8x600W

                            Rube's 2 room show down. Double ended VS Single Ended w/ CMH

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                              #15
                              Lookin good Rube.....How many weeks/days does it take to finish BC Bubba from 12/12 Bro ? .....How long did the clones veg before pullin the trigger and....Since stretch is 40% of the flower cycle how much more vertical and horizontal growth do you anticipate before full swellage mode begins....?....also....

                              What size are your rooms ?.....Do you hand water or have automated feed sequences.....What medium did you transplant your cubes into ?.....Enquiring minds wanna know so parameters can be looked at when both rooms finish with different watts per sq ft on top of yield comparison and such a difference in wattage.....anyways....

                              Thanks for your time and the hard work it takes to pump out the dank consistently.....Respect.....

                              Peace.....DHF...........
                              Knowledge is power.....Adapt or perish....

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