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    evening fiddy!
    yeah man, the plants are looking great and i hope they are settling into their new homes
    that is weird about the pests, but like ive said before it happens to all of us
    you just deal with them and move on

    hopefully we can take some cuts soon!

    sounds like we might have a new friend following along!
    welcome rodehazard!
    we have all been there and im most guilty of loving my plants too much
    lst and scrog will def be discussed as these babies move along!
    im excited to watch as our man learning how to train his plants and make the most of his space

    rad on keeping that cut for so long!
    headband is a classic! i wish i held on to
    so whats your current set up?

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      I run a 1k in a 6x8 i thought that would give plenty of room to move around. I have a 6" can filter and fan for aroma control although with my current run its not doing it. I got some fait 150 cfl bulbs for veg from home depot I move around depending on need. My soil mix keeps changing. Started with FFHF and moved to the OF I found the more pearlite I added the better my plants grew. This year I went with a mix I found on a budrunner post.He sent it in to aglab and they approved as a hibrix soil. I use one bale of promix hp, half a bag of FFHF, one bag of worm castings. To this I add six cups calcitic lime, not dolomite five cups soft rock phosphate, organic I get at walmart, and three cups gypsum. the last batch also got six cups bone char or phosphene. I dump it all on a big tarp and work it from corner to corner for too long. Then it goes in two thirty gallon tubs. I brew a tea of microbes and corn syrup and pour a couple gallons in each tub with a breaker head. Put the lid on it and wait four to six weeks add more brew if it gets dry. In winter keep it above sixty. I have reused this mix by adding the rock powders happy frog and about twenty five percent hp with good results.
      I feed the second week of flower with tiger bloom and big bloom 5 mlg and I use budrunners foliar schedule his feeding routine was too hot for my strains. I feed again on week four 10 mlg and thats it.all other watering is done with black diamond humic acid per directions on bottle. search hibrix or budrunner. I bet you enjoy his threads and do highly suggest any reading on C Reams Biological Theory of Ionization which he follows. For my part I now know way more than I understand but I always did enjoy some confusion in my life.
      Kindness is Not Canceled

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        Originally posted by pop_rocks View Post
        evening fiddy!
        yeah man, the plants are looking great and i hope they are settling into their new homes
        that is weird about the pests, but like ive said before it happens to all of us
        you just deal with them and move on

        hopefully we can take some cuts soon!

        sounds like we might have a new friend following along!
        welcome rodehazard!
        we have all been there and im most guilty of loving my plants too much
        lst and scrog will def be discussed as these babies move along!
        im excited to watch as our man learning how to train his plants and make the most of his space

        rad on keeping that cut for so long!
        headband is a classic! i wish i held on to
        so whats your current set up?
        Good morning pop_rocks.
        I think the girls are enjoying their new homes. I took some pics this morning and will do an update today.
        The tops of 1&2 are growing again and have a couple or three nodes but I'm thinking of letting them grow a couple more so when I cut there are a couple nodes left. I doubt it would be good for structure if I cut them all the was back to where I originally topped them. I also want to make sure they are happy since they didn't seem to like the last topping but that may have been because of other stresses. Plant 3 is ready to take a cutting any time now.

        It's great to have Rodehazrd following along and it sounds like he is an adventurous grower. All this talk of scrog'ing has me more interested but I'm still too chicken. Maybe a couple more grows and I'll be more adventurous. I'm just worried about not being able to move my plants around.
        Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
        Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
        Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
        Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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          Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
          I run a 1k in a 6x8 i thought that would give plenty of room to move around. I have a 6" can filter and fan for aroma control although with my current run its not doing it. I got some fait 150 cfl bulbs for veg from home depot I move around depending on need. My soil mix keeps changing. Started with FFHF and moved to the OF I found the more pearlite I added the better my plants grew. This year I went with a mix I found on a budrunner post.He sent it in to aglab and they approved as a hibrix soil. I use one bale of promix hp, half a bag of FFHF, one bag of worm castings. To this I add six cups calcitic lime, not dolomite five cups soft rock phosphate, organic I get at walmart, and three cups gypsum. the last batch also got six cups bone char or phosphene. I dump it all on a big tarp and work it from corner to corner for too long. Then it goes in two thirty gallon tubs. I brew a tea of microbes and corn syrup and pour a couple gallons in each tub with a breaker head. Put the lid on it and wait four to six weeks add more brew if it gets dry. In winter keep it above sixty. I have reused this mix by adding the rock powders happy frog and about twenty five percent hp with good results.
          I feed the second week of flower with tiger bloom and big bloom 5 mlg and I use budrunners foliar schedule his feeding routine was too hot for my strains. I feed again on week four 10 mlg and thats it.all other watering is done with black diamond humic acid per directions on bottle. search hibrix or budrunner. I bet you enjoy his threads and do highly suggest any reading on C Reams Biological Theory of Ionization which he follows. For my part I now know way more than I understand but I always did enjoy some confusion in my life.
          Sounds like interesting stuff Rodehazrd. I'm interested in building a soil that mostly has everything my plants need someday. I'll have to look up some of those posts you reference.
          Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
          Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
          Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
          Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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            Update and pics.

            It's been a couple days so time for an update. The girls look to me like they are getting happy again after a couple weeks of being up and down. They are growing again and I haven't seen that droopy look since the repot on Saturday. I haven't seen any new signs of problems on any of the new growth. Some of the fan leaves on 1&2 are slightly pale but otherwise looking pretty good. Plant 3 is growing and now only an inch or so shorter than 1&2. The tops on 1&2 are growing well finally and should be ready to take clones from soon. Their are 3.5 days post transplant and the soil is just starting to dry on top for the first time but still nice and moist just below the surface. I'm in a much better mood this week and finding that my happiness is related to the health of my plants.

            I'm super happy with the structure of plant 1. The lower branches are almost fought up with the tops and this should make for a bunch of colas at the same hight. This one is going to make better use of the light than any of my plants on my first grow. Here are a couple pics of her.


            Plant 2 also has nice structure and is just a little slower growing than #1. Both have nice thick hearty stems. Here are a couple pics of her.


            Plant 3 is looking good as well but since it's a week behind it's hard to tell how the structure is going to be. So far it's less bushy.

            I'm going to watch these girls for a few more days before doing anything to them. I want to get the cuttings taken and get them ready for flower within a couple weeks. I'm already getting nervous about them out growing my tent when they stretch out. I think I'll be fine as long as I don't let them get over 18" or so before flipping. Their also starting to smell like pot plants again and I love that young plant smell.
            Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
            Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
            Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
            Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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              Fiddy
              I agree with you on a soil that gives everything needed for the full 9 weeks. I did that to some 818 using straight OF and had happy healthy girls. Adding 30 percent pearlite did make it better. The change to a fabric pot was another improvement. I dont know why but side by side you can see a difference. On my current mix I am finding less added nutes to be just fine and they are plenty green. Microherd doing its job on the rock powders i think. So now unless I see trouble just give the humate water.
              I see a lot about flushing but have never thought it made any difference in flavor. May be Pop rocks could chime in on that. It seems to be an accepted practice but I come to think of the flower as a sink and not able to transport ions out. The mother gives everything to the flower not the other way. Eh?
              Kindness is Not Canceled

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                Originally posted by Fiddynut View Post
                It's been a couple days so time for an update. The girls look to me like they are getting happy again after a couple weeks of being up and down. They are growing again and I haven't seen that droopy look since the repot on Saturday. I haven't seen any new signs of problems on any of the new growth. Some of the fan leaves on 1&2 are slightly pale but otherwise looking pretty good. Plant 3 is growing and now only an inch or so shorter than 1&2. The tops on 1&2 are growing well finally and should be ready to take clones from soon. Their are 3.5 days post transplant and the soil is just starting to dry on top for the first time but still nice and moist just below the surface. I'm in a much better mood this week and finding that my happiness is related to the health of my plants.

                I'm super happy with the structure of plant 1. The lower branches are almost fought up with the tops and this should make for a bunch of colas at the same hight. This one is going to make better use of the light than any of my plants on my first grow. Here are a couple pics of her.
                View Image View Image View Image

                Plant 2 also has nice structure and is just a little slower growing than #1. Both have nice thick hearty stems. Here are a couple pics of her.
                View Image View Image

                Plant 3 is looking good as well but since it's a week behind it's hard to tell how the structure is going to be. So far it's less bushy.

                I'm going to watch these girls for a few more days before doing anything to them. I want to get the cuttings taken and get them ready for flower within a couple weeks. I'm already getting nervous about them out growing my tent when they stretch out. I think I'll be fine as long as I don't let them get over 18" or so before flipping. Their also starting to smell like pot plants again and I love that young plant smell.
                I see those green veins there I have that too on a 707 headband that got over fed and a repot .
                Kindness is Not Canceled

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                  Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
                  Fiddy
                  I agree with you on a soil that gives everything needed for the full 9 weeks. I did that to some 818 using straight OF and had happy healthy girls. Adding 30 percent pearlite did make it better. The change to a fabric pot was another improvement. I dont know why but side by side you can see a difference. On my current mix I am finding less added nutes to be just fine and they are plenty green. Microherd doing its job on the rock powders i think. So now unless I see trouble just give the humate water.
                  I see a lot about flushing but have never thought it made any difference in flavor. May be Pop rocks could chime in on that. It seems to be an accepted practice but I come to think of the flower as a sink and not able to transport ions out. The mother gives everything to the flower not the other way. Eh?
                  I'm thinking about the fabric pots as well. From what I've been reading it seems that the roots get more air and soil dries more uniformly. I think that must make a difference in growth. Only reason I didn't try them yet is a friend of mine says he tried them and felt like he couldn't trust them not to fall over. I haven't herd any other reports of them being unstable so I'm thinking he was just paranoid. I think they also do a better job of pruning roots and not letting them spin out so much.

                  Most of what I've read about flushing is it seems to be more important if you are using a lot of salt based synthetic nutes. Routine flushes to keep salts from building up and affecting roots. And a final flush to let the plants use up it's nuts and yellow out. I was using organic budswel last grow and didn't do any final flush. If I use a lot of nutes in flower I will probably do a flush at the end of this grow but mostly because other people do and recommend it. I could see myself doing a side by side experiment sometime to see how much difference it makes.
                  Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                  Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                  Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                  Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                    Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
                    I see those green veins there I have that too on a 707 headband that got over fed and a repot .
                    Keeping an eye on them. I transplanted into a hotter soil than I started them in so they may have to adjust to the new soil. I shouldn't need to feed them until after the final transplant which I'm thinking is only a couple weeks away.
                    Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                    Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                    Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                    Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                      Here's some shots of my room
                      The old clothes rack I already had the net just holds the thin stems up. The side by side shot is an 818 / 707 both got same feeding 707 didn't like it. I flushed some repotted most left this one with just watering
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                        Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
                        Here's some shots of my room
                        The old clothes rack I already had the net just holds the thin stems up. The side by side shot is an 818 / 707 both got same feeding 707 didn't like it. I flushed some repotted most left this one with just watering
                        Good morning Rodehazrd.
                        That is a nice sized space you have to work with there. I like the support you are giving your girls. That rack is a great idea. I broke off a couple branches late in flower on my first grow because they got too heavy and I hadent done a good job of supporting them. It was ok because it gave me a chance to sample but I want to avoid that this time.

                        That side by side is interesting. I am surprised that the different strains have such different feeding preferences. When I was reasearching before my first grow I found feeding to be one of the most confusing aspects of growing. So many products and everyone seems to do it differently. I just want to learn to read my plants so I can experiment a bit. I see the stripes on the one on the left. Some of my leaves look similar.
                        Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                        Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                        Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                        Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                          I don't know if all.the 707 phenotypes are that sensitive this is a freebie or ufo from the seed co. I only got the one seed but she stanky and easy to clone. Close branching and well done in 8 weeks.
                          All those free ones to taste crowds my room,so this find makes it worth it try more of them.
                          Strains I won't continue, emdog nice colas,slow too much body effect I'm happy to have a jar for late night but mine not really a keeper

                          Original amnesia still too much couchlock
                          Mango tango nice small buds low yield delicious
                          AK 47 the phenotype I liked auto flowering on 24 hr cfl so lost it
                          Serious Happiness pretty bush not for keeps
                          Grizzly purple kush close may order more for a closer look very delicious
                          I'm confused about the sativa it's supposed to be all up but some are and some not so .much
                          Kindness is Not Canceled

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                            Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
                            I don't know if all.the 707 phenotypes are that sensitive this is a freebie or ufo from the seed co. I only got the one seed but she stanky and easy to clone. Close branching and well done in 8 weeks.
                            All those free ones to taste crowds my room,so this find makes it worth it try more of them.
                            Strains I won't continue, emdog nice colas,slow too much body effect I'm happy to have a jar for late night but mine not really a keeper

                            Original amnesia still too much couchlock
                            Mango tango nice small buds low yield delicious
                            AK 47 the phenotype I liked auto flowering on 24 hr cfl so lost it
                            Serious Happiness pretty bush not for keeps
                            Grizzly purple kush close may order more for a closer look very delicious
                            I'm confused about the sativa it's supposed to be all up but some are and some not so .much
                            Sounds good Rodehazrd.
                            I haven't even herd of a lot of these strains you speak of. Where I live there's no med or rec and most of the buds people are selling you never know the strain. I got these 3 packs of cc seeds from a friend in the sf Bay Area. I have enough beans for 1 or 2 more runs and then I gotta pick some new genetics. I have a lot of research to do because I want an old school type of road kill skunk sour flavor. I've heard of a lot of the older strains and the classics but it seems like there are so many choices today it's a bit overwhelming. One of the things that is driving my desire to learn to clone is that I want to find some pheno's that I like and try to keep them around. Every time I log on to a seed bank and start browsing I get kind of over stimulated and all the pictures of the buds look great. I defiantly want to try some classics like Nl and purple haze and skunk1. It's early in the journey of growing for me and I have a lot to learn but am motivated and don't mind putting in the effort. It's easer for me to grow good weed than to find it here. I guess that's what motivates a lot of us.
                            Fiddynut's indoor jungle https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....58#post7781958
                            Fiddynut tries some autos https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=336087
                            Completed grow Larry OG https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333512
                            Completed grow Blackwater https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330253

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                              Yeah
                              I had not heard of most of them either.I did order the 818 on recommendations of the seed bank all the others were samples I cloned. I just got in an order of 6 818s looking for another phenotypes and the 10 regular Larry's were samples from swerve at cali. I do.t know if it's ok to name the seed bank but when I pay the special shipping I get a nice bag and they never fail to arrive. Always shipped from a different European countries.
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                                evening fellows!
                                those are some nice plants rode' what is that thing in the 2nd pic?
                                is it like a clothes rack or something?
                                it looks like its easy to move but gives you solid support for your netting

                                as far as flushing goes, i stop feeding my plants for the last couple weeks
                                whatever nutrient program im using i stop after about the 6-7 week of flower even if its jsut teas and sugars
                                ive heard you can feed them molasis up until the end but i just cut out all supplements and give them plain water
                                i dont really do a heavy flush when growing in soil but i tend to go light on nutrients

                                so many great strains out there!
                                what are some that you would consider keepers?

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