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  • pop_rocks
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    what a drag my friend!
    you put so much work into this and the plants were growing so well
    it would surprise me if this was solely from environment, these were from feminised seed,non?
    some plants are just prone to hermie and no matter how you grown them you are going to get seed
    /landrace thai comes to mind

    so have you found the plant that is shedding the pollen?
    all is not lost and you can still use the seeded buds for like cooking or maybe extract, but you want to get her ("it"), out of the grow room
    once you locate the culprit, spray it down really good with just plain water
    this will hopefully cause the pollen to stick to the wet plant and not spread as you take this one out of the grow tent

    this will not really effect the plants in veg, but lets spray down the grow area with some h202 and wipe things down really well
    take your fans to another area and run them for a little while (20min) just to blow them out, as well as spray and wipe down
    what were going for here is wiping down any of the potentially contaminated surfaces with mix of water and peroxide
    /if you ahve another disinfecting mix you like, like bleach, you could use that too
    /im not sure how long pollen is viable in the environment, but we want to clean up as much as we can

    this really sucks man and hopefully it was contained to this one space
    were these from the same seeds that you ran last time and had same problem?

    i dont think this is anything you could have done on this one
    sorry news friend

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  • Fiddynut
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    Update

    Greetings friends.
    I don't want to share depressing news but since I'm updating I have no choice. On Friday night my brother and I noticed that the colas on the Larry #1 were looking a lot different than the others. I had thought that the calyx were just swelling and looking plump. The closer we looked the more it looked like there were seeds in the buds. I cut a Lowe branch and poked around and sure enough the buds were full of seeds. Some how I missed it again. On my last grow I had a few lower buds on one plant with seeds and never spotted it either. This time I think it's going to be most of the harvest full of seeds. I cut down Larry one and found seeds from top to bottom. My othe two girls are all seedy in the mid and lower parts as well. I can't ell if the tops of Larry 2 and the GS cookie are seeded as well. If not I'll still get a little harvest but nothing like what I thought I would. I am not sure what's going on. I really hope it's just genetics causing this. These plants were happy the whole grow except for a few days when they were getting root bound around week 3 of veg or so. They have been transplanted twice since and have been looking great. I'm also not sure why I'm not seeing the hermies when they happen. In my other grow I've spotted 3 males so far and it's not hard to spot. I can see balls a mile away so why didn't I see any on my girls? The only thing I can think of is that it hermied after buds started to form and the buds were blocking my view. The seeds are still a little immature but they are about full sized and have hard shells. That tells me that it happened about 2-3 weeks ago. I was about on week 3-4 at that point and the buds had formers allready. There must have been a lot of pollen in the tent to have as many seeds as I do.

    So I know that lots of stress, light leaks, too high a tempature, ect causes hermies but also genetics has a big part to play. I've checked for light leaks and found none. My tent is in a basement that stays dark and I'm always carful about completely zipping it up and making sure no light gets in during their dark time. My temps have been between 69-81 degrees the whole time. I really hope this is just a case of plants that were going to hermie no matter what because I can't find another reason for what they would have.

    Here are some questions I have.
    Could there still be pollen around that I have to clean up?
    Could this also affect my other plants that are in veg?
    How do I find and get rid of pollen so it dosent mess up my veging plants or my next batch?
    Anything else I need to do to make sure nothing else gets pollinated?

    Il search around but any ones experience would be appreciated on this. I will be switching to new genetics very soon. I ordered some Bodhi seeds and some Tony Green seeds as well. I won't be using feminized seeds anymore. My plan is to run the bodhi gear next and see if I get any hermies. If I don't I think I can assume that it was genetic. If I still have problems then I will have to figure out what I'm doing wrong or what's wrong with my equipment.

    Sorry for the depressing news friends. I was really proud of how this grow was going too. Not much more to say I just have to see how the other 2 lady's do and try to salvage something.
    Here is a pic of the little seeded bud I cut on Friday.

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  • Rodehazrd
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    I agree on not spraying late I haven't used it past wk 5 of full flower on 8wk cycle or 7 on a ten. Doc bud and budrunner do but they wash buds in several things after harvest. I never did that yet.
    Yeah guys the p a x 2 still keeping us happy. Easy clean but the bottom plate jumps out easy another thing to loose lucky I did it on table. It didn't need cleaning yet anyway.
    I'm putting my 95day original amnesia in it and the sweet haze comes right through. I have one in an old butter crock I took 100 I put her in there right after chop to cure extra slow.I Finally saw brown on her. the first was just foggy and some clear trichs. My humidity was low then and I read to cure then dry like they do Turkish tobacco in the south. It has a lid with a small hole for the dasher which seems to be enough air to cure. I do burp it for a couple hours a day. It's taken two weeks to have dry leaves still no snap of the stems I'm excited to try it compared to the faster dry then inu jar four wks like usual.
    Rodehazrd

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  • Fiddynut
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    Originally posted by pop_rocks View Post
    i will have to look into the pax2, rhode'
    i would really like a good vape for a change of pace every now and then
    mrs chicky got me a new fancy bong for christmas and im super happy with it!
    really nice draw and it has this glass bubble inside the main chamber that catches the ash
    /im from the west coast, we snap that shit back
    /when we first met the mrs would tamp the ash out of the bowl
    //faw-kin BAW-stun smo-kahs
    its so cool im actually smoking more weed that usual!

    1/16 teaspoon?!? that would be hard to measure even in mililitres
    when i ran hydroponic, i would measure everythign out in ml and has pipettes and syringes to keep everything close to exact
    but 1/16 is like.25ml
    at that amount you are talking less than a nice rain drop of liquid!
    i agree overall with your position on organics
    i try and keep nice and clean but i am not over zealous
    / if i cant put it in the yard with the dog and the chickens i avoid it
    maybe this will be something i work on more in the new year

    depending on where you are in your flower cycle, i would hold off on the foliar feedings
    at some point the buds become too dense and can hold pockets of the water
    this will lead to problems with mold so its kind of not recommended to spray anything on the plants after a certain point
    from the last pics you might be near that point
    the buds looked fat and frosty!
    i see a nice harvest in the new year and some new smoke to add to your collection!
    Good afternoon pop_rocks.
    In 2017 I will learn about organics/high brix/no or minimal till and I'll learn about foliar feeding. I think you have a good point about the buds being big enough to trap moisture. I have 8-10 tops per plant that are already bigger than a red bull can. I think they will be coke cans in a week or so. They are getting frosty indeed. These girls are going to be like snowmen if they keep progressing like this. I think these girls are going to finish a lot faster than my first grow did. It seems like they stalled on my first round and this time they are growing and frosting up noticeably every day. My expectations are growing for this harvest. Hoping to pull a pound the way these girls are looking.

    Did you do any grinding yet? Let me know how it goes. Any big plans for New Year's Eve? I don't usually go out and party anymore but may do something spontaneous this year. Either way there will be plenty of food and football this weekend. And some drinking as well I hope you have a great New Years celebration what ever you do and I hope 2017 finds you healthy and happy...Fiddy.

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  • Fiddynut
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    Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
    Hello guys
    Fiddy I don't know if koolbloom qualifies as organic. I do have trouble adding a sixteenth of a tsp to anything, also I read you dissolve it first in the water then add other notes the explanation was about ph changes which I did not research.
    I feel organic is great but don't split hairs about it. As long as we don't damage the microherd or interfere with their process I'm for adding anything not harmful to humans.
    Peace
    Rodehazrd
    Good afternoon Rodehazrd.
    Sounds like I have some reading to do about foliar feeding and what to use. I think I'll wait until a future grow to experiment with that. I'm kind of a chicken to try new things.
    I have some tiny measuring spoons that I use when making cheese that have 1/16 and 1/32 teaspoon sizes.
    Have a great weekend and I hope 2017 is a great year for you and your plants...Fiddy.

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  • pop_rocks
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    i will have to look into the pax2, rhode'
    i would really like a good vape for a change of pace every now and then
    mrs chicky got me a new fancy bong for christmas and im super happy with it!
    really nice draw and it has this glass bubble inside the main chamber that catches the ash
    /im from the west coast, we snap that shit back
    /when we first met the mrs would tamp the ash out of the bowl
    //faw-kin BAW-stun smo-kahs
    its so cool im actually smoking more weed that usual!

    1/16 teaspoon?!? that would be hard to measure even in mililitres
    when i ran hydroponic, i would measure everythign out in ml and has pipettes and syringes to keep everything close to exact
    but 1/16 is like.25ml
    at that amount you are talking less than a nice rain drop of liquid!
    i agree overall with your position on organics
    i try and keep nice and clean but i am not over zealous
    / if i cant put it in the yard with the dog and the chickens i avoid it
    maybe this will be something i work on more in the new year

    depending on where you are in your flower cycle, i would hold off on the foliar feedings
    at some point the buds become too dense and can hold pockets of the water
    this will lead to problems with mold so its kind of not recommended to spray anything on the plants after a certain point
    from the last pics you might be near that point
    the buds looked fat and frosty!
    i see a nice harvest in the new year and some new smoke to add to your collection!

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  • Rodehazrd
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    Originally posted by Fiddynut View Post
    Good afternoon Rodehazrd.
    I was just reading through budrunners high brix thread again. I actually almost picked up a bottle of koolbloom at the hydro store on Monday when I was there but I put it back down because I didn't know if it was the right stuff to be using. With only 3 weeks or so left I might skip the foliar on theis run and experiment with it on the next one. I have the auto flower seedlings that I'm thinking about keeping it organic with and that would be a good way to get some experience with some different nutes and foliar. I haven't found the rock powders yet either but want to start using them also. If I wait until spring I should be able to find the supplies locally. With the ground frozen around here it's hard to find much this time of year. Even garden stores put away all the planting stuff and just sell Holliday lights and decorations. I even had a hard time finding a selection of pots at a garden store on Monday but as spring approaches they will have everything for sale again.
    I'll bet that fish and sugar water gets real ripe quick. I always mix only enough nutes and use them right away. I think I had some earth juice mixed up a few months ago and sealed it in a milk jug and a week later it was nasty.
    Thanks for the recommendations. I hope all is well...Fiddy.
    Hello guys
    Fiddy I don't know if koolbloom qualifies as organic. I do have trouble adding a sixteenth of a tsp to anything, also I read you dissolve it first in the water then add other notes the explanation was about ph changes which I did not research.
    I feel organic is great but don't split hairs about it. As long as we don't damage the microherd or interfere with their process I'm for adding anything not harmful to humans.
    Peace
    Rodehazrd

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  • Fiddynut
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    Originally posted by Rodehazrd View Post
    Hello and best wishes to all for a good new year.
    @pop yeah its good with flowers i grind one up and pack it pretty tight then go for 8 bites or so. we recharged after two bowls but that may get better as it charges fully a few times. very discrete for travel and smell is greatly reduced. Flavor is good too. The little business end cap jumps out like a tiddly wink i fear we will lose it.

    Fiddy look at budrunners foliars. I just use the repro spray on buds now I tried his idea of Anionic Cationic alternating but didnt see the results change. I put corn syrup in hot water for dextrose found the neptune fish and seaweed and koolbloom at the local hydro store. I dont know why the tiger shouldent help though 3mil per gal. the mix I use is mix and use dont store it you wont want to smell that fish and corn syurp after a few days of no bubbles.
    I found the cheap pump up quart size sprayers get a fine mist and hold plenty. If its misting good you cant concentrate on only leaves anyway so I just hose it all down, the flowers love it.
    Good afternoon Rodehazrd.
    I was just reading through budrunners high brix thread again. I actually almost picked up a bottle of koolbloom at the hydro store on Monday when I was there but I put it back down because I didn't know if it was the right stuff to be using. With only 3 weeks or so left I might skip the foliar on theis run and experiment with it on the next one. I have the auto flower seedlings that I'm thinking about keeping it organic with and that would be a good way to get some experience with some different nutes and foliar. I haven't found the rock powders yet either but want to start using them also. If I wait until spring I should be able to find the supplies locally. With the ground frozen around here it's hard to find much this time of year. Even garden stores put away all the planting stuff and just sell Holliday lights and decorations. I even had a hard time finding a selection of pots at a garden store on Monday but as spring approaches they will have everything for sale again.
    I'll bet that fish and sugar water gets real ripe quick. I always mix only enough nutes and use them right away. I think I had some earth juice mixed up a few months ago and sealed it in a milk jug and a week later it was nasty.
    Thanks for the recommendations. I hope all is well...Fiddy.

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  • Rodehazrd
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    Hello and best wishes to all for a good new year.
    @pop yeah its good with flowers i grind one up and pack it pretty tight then go for 8 bites or so. we recharged after two bowls but that may get better as it charges fully a few times. very discrete for travel and smell is greatly reduced. Flavor is good too. The little business end cap jumps out like a tiddly wink i fear we will lose it.

    Fiddy look at budrunners foliars. I just use the repro spray on buds now I tried his idea of Anionic Cationic alternating but didnt see the results change. I put corn syrup in hot water for dextrose found the neptune fish and seaweed and koolbloom at the local hydro store. I dont know why the tiger shouldent help though 3mil per gal. the mix I use is mix and use dont store it you wont want to smell that fish and corn syurp after a few days of no bubbles.
    I found the cheap pump up quart size sprayers get a fine mist and hold plenty. If its misting good you cant concentrate on only leaves anyway so I just hose it all down, the flowers love it.

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  • Fiddynut
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    Quick update.

    Just a super quick update. The lady's got water, cal/mag, and budswel this morning and are looking great. The bud structure is quite different between Larry1 and Larry2.
    Here is a pic of Larry2.

    The buds on Larry2 are more rounded and looking to be tighter than Larry1. Not quite as much trichome coverage either.

    Larry2 is looking more frosty and a little more fluffy. These look a lot like mu Blackwater #1 plant that I liked so much.


    The group shot.


    The clones are wanting a transplant. They are getting droopy and not so happy. I don't have the space or the pots so they will just have to tough it out for a few days. My plan is to transplant as soon as there is space for them and once they are happy again I'll get as many cuts from them as I can and by then I'll know if they are worth re growing.
    Here is a shot of them.


    That's about it for now. I'm hoping they will finish in the next 4 weeks or sooner. Next update will be in a few days and I should have them tied to the bamboo by then. Later...Fiddy.

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  • Fiddynut
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    Originally posted by pop_rocks View Post
    thanks for that advice!
    i was under the impression tha tthe meat had to be frozen
    i cant wait to make my own ground meat
    what are some good seasonings to add
    im def going to add some fresh garlic while grinding and some pepper
    im just looking to bring out the savory flavor of the meat

    yeah we have a couple pens and only one seems to kind of work
    if you use the cartridges it hits well, but with dried flower its kind of lame

    the sun is back and its really nice outside right now
    prob in teh 70' and light wind
    its jsut the lower areas that dont get much sun hold the water and take a long time to dry
    when i was younger i would ride anything, but there was a lot more open space back then
    now im more worried about ruining the trails and leaving deep ruts
    for now im happy to just enjoy my new percolater and have a couple drinks!

    hope things are going well for you too fiddy!
    Good afternoon pop_rocks.
    Yep not frozen just cold as you can get it. When making sausage I add the salt and seasonings to the cubed up meat and let all the flavors blend overnight before grinding. If I'm doing burgers I just grind the meat and season the outside right before cooking. You can add anything you want and it mixes it really well during the grinding process. Be carful with raw garlic, I've found that it can retain some of that raw flavor unless you are using it in something that is going to be cooked a long time. I wouldn't use raw in my burgers because I cook them med rare and the raw garlic flavor would not be to my likening. I'd try it with something like meatballs that you would bake then simmer in sauce for a couple hours. For meatballs I like beef, garlic, diced onion, parsley, basal, bread crumbs,and parm cheese. I bake them then throw them in some sauce to simmer a while. If you get some pork you can make good breakfast sausage patties. I think meat, salt, pepper, sage for that. The salt ratio I like is 32 grams kosher salt for 5 pounds meat. Once you get the salt content right for your taste you can play with different seasonings.

    I wish someone would make a good vape pen. For years I've been looking for something that just works good. Maybe someday we well find a good one. Like I said the myster is the best I've found and was really happy with it until they went to lower temp coils. I'll keep searching though.

    Good point about not wanting to rut up and thrash the trails. Lots of mud is probably not so good for your bike anyway.
    Enjoy that percolater and have a drink for me...Fiddy.

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  • Fiddynut
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    Originally posted by tleaf jr. View Post
    Good afternoon tleaf.
    Get your popcorn ready, I think these girls are going to finish fast and strong. They are really starting to fatten up now and it's only day 37 I think.

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  • pop_rocks
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    thanks for that advice!
    i was under the impression tha tthe meat had to be frozen
    i cant wait to make my own ground meat
    what are some good seasonings to add
    im def going to add some fresh garlic while grinding and some pepper
    im just looking to bring out the savory flavor of the meat

    yeah we have a couple pens and only one seems to kind of work
    if you use the cartridges it hits well, but with dried flower its kind of lame

    the sun is back and its really nice outside right now
    prob in teh 70' and light wind
    its jsut the lower areas that dont get much sun hold the water and take a long time to dry
    when i was younger i would ride anything, but there was a lot more open space back then
    now im more worried about ruining the trails and leaving deep ruts
    for now im happy to just enjoy my new percolater and have a couple drinks!

    hope things are going well for you too fiddy!

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  • Fiddynut
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    Originally posted by pop_rocks View Post
    @rhodehazard
    that sounds like a cool gift and would like to hear about it
    can you use dry flower or does it only take cartridges
    i would like a nice hand held vape pen too, but want one that i can smoke flower out of
    keep us posted on how she likes it

    thanks for the information fiddy!
    i have some ideas and am heading out today to get some meat to grind
    i thnk i will cut it up and then freeze it and get cranking prob this friday
    still havent rode the trails
    yesterday we rode a lower trail around the reservoir and it was really muddy and wet
    it was nice out so it was fun to just ride but it looks like more rain is coming so we might not get to ride our regular trails again until next year

    thats interesting about the smell
    it sounds like you are really scrubbing the air and i bet the cold temps may play a part too
    but you can see the glands progressing so the stank is there!

    keep up the good work,man!
    the girls look great
    Good afternoon pop_rocks.
    My dad uses the myster pen I gave him for flower. He says it works ok but is hard to clean. I've had such a hard time finding any good reviews I can trust on vape pens. My brother and I have tried several and most don't work well. That's kind of always been the case with these pens as far as I can remember. The myster was the first one I tried that worked well and was easy to clean and load (wax). They changed their coil design and they don't work as well as they use to. I do know some of the pens are marketed as being for dry herb. I've even searched the icmag forums to see what people are using but haven't found much.

    For grinding I recommend cutting the meat into chunks and put in zip lock in fridge. Then about an hour before you are going to grind put in freezer to firm up and get cold but don't freeze solid. You just want it really cold not frozen. When you freeze meat the ice crystals pierce the cell walls and that causes loss of moisture. Just get everything nice and cold and work quickly and you will be in good shape.

    Stupid rain is messing with your riding it sounds like but at least you can get out a little bit and get the blood pumping a bit. I wonder if a fat tire bike would be better for riding in the mud? I'm sure the sun will be back soon.

    I was getting a little worried about lack of aroma from the plants until last night my bro came over and when we opened the tent he said he thinks they are more stinky than last time. I think I'm just use to it now and don't notice it much. I watered this morning and got a couple bud shots I'll throw up. Going to transplant the 12 auto seedlings I have going tonight so that should keep me busy. The clones want to get transplanted too but I'll have to wait until I identify and get rid of the male autos. The veg tent is going to be packed full once this transplant is done.

    Glad to here things are going well for you. Have fun grinding and feel free to experiment with textures a bit and see what you like. Peace....Fiddy.

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