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    Originally posted by Mesosphere View Post
    does it have an extremey heavy smell incense smell, which is know to come from durban poison? someone was trying to hunt down a durban poison cross with wreaked like ten times the normal durbanpoison and one person mentioned this strain, hence my question

    thanks in advance
    I'm pretty bad at explaining smells. There is definitely a heavy smell that is fruity and sweet for some of the phenos. I had one cut, #3 that smells very strongly of smoked peppers, chipotle particularly. The smells range depending on which pheno it is. They are strong smelling and look very good after the cure. The finished herb looks very nice as well but it was a pain in the dick for trimming, pretty tedious and leafy but well worth it. Regarding an incense smell I would say that you could describe the sweeter smelling ones as being like incense. Overall I would highly recommend this strain. I have some more Reserva Privada gear that I hope to have the time for in the future.

    Originally posted by Mesosphere View Post
    how much the hemlocks run for 7 beans?
    $40 from their website - *I was about to post the vendor's website but that might be a TOU violation here. Google around and you'll find it no problem.
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      (*Edit* - Forgot to mention that these pics were taken on the 15th and I haven't had a chance to upload them.)

      Nice update as far as the crawlspace goes. I was prepared to let everything peter out and run its course over the next several months in preparation of moving but now things have changed so I will be ramping up again with new flavors. I didn't take any more back up cuts of anything or pop beans because of this so there won't be any more Appalachian Diesel or App F3s after this. All the same to me too as I didn't want to run the diesel anymore. I'll be disappointed if there is something awesome that comes from the AF3s but maybe I could try a last ditch attempt to take cuttings. Some of the AF3s are throwing nanners now too which is disappointing. Out of the 4 or so that are nannerific one is really bad in particular. I almost chopped it down but thought better of it. Aside from that they are doing alright and starting to put on frost. These are more stable than the App diesel but there are at least two distinct phenos. Again here there are two really sativa dominant (Green Crack?) plants and then some more chem dawg looking plants. I'm excited to see if some of the green crack comes out with these as I've never seen/smoked that before.

      On with the pics! Here are the two sides of bulb 3 where most of the AF3s are.





      I have my App diesels around bulb 1 getting ready to come down and they are all looking pretty good. I was running 4 #1 plant cuts and one plant in particular has a cola about the size of a 12 ounce can! That plant is in a smart pot so I don't know if that had anything to do with it. More soil could be fit in there if that might have given it a leg up. It wasn't tall at all this time either which I thought was odd for it to crank out a cola that size. Hard to tell but I tried to wrap my hand around it for scale.



      Left and Right sides of bulb 1 with the damn near ready App diesels.





      Next post for the other pictures...
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        Lastly we have bulbs 2 and 4 bumping along and doing their thing. Certainly a medley with these again. Chem Dawg, UK Cheese, OG Kush, AF3, Hemlock, App diesel #5.



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          I just checked in on the girls after watering them last and some of the flowers were flopping over to the point that they were only inches from the bulb! Others yet were flopped over to where they were pointing towards the ground. The Chemdawgs seemed to be the worst ones to do this. Be sure to check your plants everyday!
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              your Appy diesel looks killer, but I gotta say, the Hemlock is mighty pretty too. nanners or no, it would be hard to toss either. congrats...
              smoking more pot is NOT the answer to my problems. my problem is that i need more problems that smoking more pot IS the answer to...

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                Originally posted by armedoldhippy View Post
                your Appy diesel looks killer, but I gotta say, the Hemlock is mighty pretty too. nanners or no, it would be hard to toss either. congrats...
                Thanks for the props hippy! I've been out of town without access to my computer for awhile, apparently near your neck of the woods from seeing your location. Everything has certainly swelled up since I was out of town but on a more somber note Powdery Mildew has popped up and begun to spread all throughout my garden!!! SHITSHITFUCKSHIT. I've only seen this once before years ago when I had a little runt of an outdoor plant going outside in WNC. Just before I headed out of town I had one of my UK Cheese clones looking like a bag of ass and upon closer inspection I saw that it had got got by the PM. I culled it immediately but apparently it spread all throughout while I was gone. My roommate was nice enough to take care of the girls and trim up the others that had come down but he definitely overwatered everything this past watering. I had to spend a good amount of time last night staking up ladies and getting weak floppy branches to get up and away from the bulb. I know that I have my work cut out for me but I WILL NOT give up on the ladies as they are plenty far enough along to fight for and see to the end of flowering. ANY AND ALL advice is welcomed as I start to read up on how best to deal with this problem. I remember hearing about lacto bacillus (sp?) and want to entertain any organic methods to take care of the PM. NO CHEMICALS, deal breaker. I'm scared for my ladies, can y'all hold me and tell me it's all gonna be alright?

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                  Originally posted by who dat is View Post
                  Everything has certainly swelled up since I was out of town but on a more somber note Powdery Mildew has popped up and begun to spread all throughout my garden!!! SHITSHITFUCKSHIT. I've only seen this once before years ago when I had a little runt of an outdoor plant going outside in WNC. Just before I headed out of town I had one of my UK Cheese clones looking like a bag of ass and upon closer inspection I saw that it had got got by the PM. I culled it immediately but apparently it spread all throughout while I was gone. My roommate was nice enough to take care of the girls and trim up the others that had come down but he definitely overwatered everything this past watering. I had to spend a good amount of time last night staking up ladies and getting weak floppy branches to get up and away from the bulb. I know that I have my work cut out for me but I WILL NOT give up on the ladies as they are plenty far enough along to fight for and see to the end of flowering. ANY AND ALL advice is welcomed as I start to read up on how best to deal with this problem. I remember hearing about lacto bacillus (sp?) and want to entertain any organic methods to take care of the PM. NO CHEMICALS, deal breaker. I'm scared for my ladies, can y'all hold me and tell me it's all gonna be alright?

                  Actinovate, which is pretty expensive yet works great, and/or Serenade which becomes less effective as flowering plants go into senescence.

                  The best defense against PM is grow the healthiest plants you can. Some of this has to do with genetics. I'm guessing you could have probably done well with some foliar calcium treatments for starters in veg and early flower.

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                    Originally posted by CaliGabe View Post
                    Actinovate, which is pretty expensive yet works great, and/or Serenade which becomes less effective as flowering plants go into senescence.

                    The best defense against PM is grow the healthiest plants you can. Some of this has to do with genetics. I'm guessing you could have probably done well with some foliar calcium treatments for starters in veg and early flower.
                    Thanks for dropping some knowledge. Healthiest plants is always my rule of thumb but I think the rise in humidity, being out of town for awhile, and growing in a crawlspace all worked together to conspire against me. I want to entertain all options at this point, so long as they are organic. What are these calcium treatments you speak of? All my girls are in the middle of flower or nearing the end of the flowering cycle with some around 3 weeks out.
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                      Here's a pretty good thread about plant nutrition stuff, pest/disease resistance, etc. I will say I'm partial to this school of growing:
                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=289990

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                        So here's where I'm at now. I ended up going with the Green Cure over the Serenade. It worked immediately and removed all sights of Powdery Mildew. That worked a lot better than I had anticipated too. I'm going to be on the lookout for it to pop up again but in the mean time I started an ACT up tonight that I will use as a foliar tomorrow night and watered the rest of the girls with a solution of emulsified neem oil @30mL/gallon. I just about have all the girls on the same water schedule again now too which is nice. Humidity has been pretty consistent around mid to high 30's.

                        The first two pictures are some of the nicer colas with the PM lingering around just prior to getting the Green Cure.

                        AF3


                        "Chemdawd" That's what the cut was sold to me as but it's starting to look more like Flo to me and smells sweet.



                        Prior to spraying I would have had the light off for at least 10 minutes to properly cool down. Then I would put a fresh, clean sock over the bulb to protect it from spray. I sprayed the shit out of all the girls from every angle until they were dripping - there was no way I was going to miss anything.



                        I would then leave the plants to dry out for a bit before firing up the bulb again. Everything worked out so far, nothing appears to have gotten mad or burnt. The leaves have no visible signs of PM anywhere even after several days (They were sprayed the 4th - same day these pictures are from).
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                          I just recently got a gopro and have been trying to figure it out. Pretty damn handy with a remote or being able to use your phone to control it. I played around with taking a video or two to get the feel of it and also took these pictures yesterday.







                          ACT foliar tomorrow to get the girls back on track and then will resume normal feeding schedule again along with some additional beneficials after I pick some more up.

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                            Quick thought... If you are planning on using Green Cure, ie Potassium Bi Carbonate, try instead taking some water and adding a slight bit pf pH up. Bring it to about 7.0-7.2, nothing crazy, and spot spray your plants that are still flowering out. Using the Green Cure doesn't work very long and repeated use tends to manifest itself in a potash overdose; your leaves get dark green and the hairs turn prematurely dark. The slightly alkaline water applies the same physiologic principle as the green cure and even sulfur burners without the harsh side effects. The fungus doesn't like the basic environment. Hope this helps, we have all been there here in CO! Good Luck!

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                              Originally posted by QUANTUMeCANNics View Post
                              Quick thought... If you are planning on using Green Cure, ie Potassium Bi Carbonate, try instead taking some water and adding a slight bit pf pH up. Bring it to about 7.0-7.2, nothing crazy, and spot spray your plants that are still flowering out. Using the Green Cure doesn't work very long and repeated use tends to manifest itself in a potash overdose; your leaves get dark green and the hairs turn prematurely dark. The slightly alkaline water applies the same physiologic principle as the green cure and even sulfur burners without the harsh side effects. The fungus doesn't like the basic environment. Hope this helps, we have all been there here in CO! Good Luck!
                              I want to use the Green Cure for now since I purchased it. Would there be any harm in still using it but at a lower dosage than previously? I want to use it as sparingly as possible but keeping the PM away is the first priority.

                              Thanks for the info
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                                Originally posted by who dat is View Post
                                I want to use the Green Cure for now since I purchased it. Would there be any harm in still using it but at a lower dosage than previously? I want to use it as sparingly as possible but keeping the PM away is the first priority.

                                Thanks for the info
                                It will still work at a lower dose, of course for not as long. How much longer do you have of flowering? My advice would be to use the Green Cure sparingly for the rest of the harvest and if you start to see signs of potassium toxicity (dark leaves and the premature darkening of the hairs) then go to the pH Up and water until you chop it down.

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