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    bobblehead's organic bedroom of high brix gardening

    Ok its about time I start another thread. If I don't, Mr. D is gonna run out of good ideas pretty soon...

    In our last episode, the lake house took a shit just when things were at their best and I was bumping 10kw. Its cool though cause I planned to shut down anyway, and relocate. Things just got pushed ahead a few months.

    My last grow was my final one with a high plant count. I'm a licensed patient/caregiver in Michigan, and I will be staying within my plant count from now on. I have too much to lose in life if I was to get raided. Now I'm medically compliant.

    I switched from chemical nutes and coco smart pots to organic peat-based no-till soil beds. The room is completely sealed with a 36kbtu split, 200pt dehuey, 5 disc pond fogger, 6.8kw in light and CO2. Here's the pics.

    This was around 2 weeks in.



    This is around 4 weeks. The bed in the front of the pic ended up getting culled by week 7. Those plants never turned around. It turns out you can't take large plants fed synthetic nutes, and switch them over to organics. They don't have the roots of an organic plant. Expensive lesson to learn. The bed behind it is Straw DD, doing well.


    All the other plants in the room including the Straw DD in the last pic were smaller, and made the transition to organics much better.

    #2
    Oh yeah I didn't start the grow with 6.8kw... Each bed had 1800w. Then I returned two faulty 600w Nextgen ballasts and got back 2 1kw ballasts! Then I got 2 Raptors with horti eye lamps and another 1kw magnetic ballast from a police auction for $179. Gotta love living in a med state. So 2 beds now have 1 1kw lamp and 2 600w's for 2200w each. It works ok. I found out I should have dropped the 600's lower, but there's always next grow! I should have pulled out my light meter after hanging the 1kw lamps. I only used it at the beginning of the grow to test the lamps.


    Golden Goat @ 9 weeks

    Last edited by bobblehead; 09-13-2013, 01:14.

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      #3
      sub'd...puff...puff
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      I grow and am motivated by the pure genius of Heath Robinson!

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        #4
        Straw DD @ 9 weeks-



        My new largest bud I've ever grown. This cola is directly in front of the gallon jug.



        Previous largest bed ever grown, Straw DD


        FAQ

        What are the genetics? Original Strawberry Diesel x Chem bx1

        Where can I get seeds? You can't. Cocktail Frank made them and donated them to the server fund. He says there aren't more.

        Where can I get a clone? You have to know me or someone close to me




        IDK how much longer I'll be running Straw DD in the big room honestly... You can see by the pic that she's not that frosty when you compare her to the cultivars that get more hype, like the white, golden goat, gsc-f, etc etc etc... I have lots of quality genetics that yield well, and have more potency and bag appeal. The buds are a little airy with the Straw DD. I don't think I'll cull her, but in my competitive market, its not all about quantity.

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          #5
          Couple more cause I still love this plant...





          ps, all nice pics are credit to Silver Hawaiian and his fancy camera.

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            #6
            luv the photos, can't wait for more, subbed.

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              #7


              Glad to see a new thread! I betcha couldn't stand to sit idly by after _D and I finally got off our lazy asses and fired one up ourselves..

              So share with the group please What have been the observations that've stuck with you in particular in the synthetic nutes -> organic approach?

              What prompted the switch?

              Current project: ..Right here. Seriously, just click it.

              Completed: . . ... More vert lerv . . . . . . . Blumats, vert, n' dirt

              "Then they took me by the hand, and they invited me right in.. Then they showed me something, I don't even know where to begin.."

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                #8
                just SpAnKyInG...those broads... lushes buds~indeed

                i got a river for a soul...

                Darlin' I'm a nightmare...
                Dressed like a daydream~~~

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                  #9
                  Dang dude. Stay compliant man. MI isn't the state to take chances. Bill Schuette has made it well known that he has every intent of sticking it to the medical growers and patients whenever possible. The recent concentrate BS going on is absurd.

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                    Look bobble, someone who understands our plight
                    Current project: ..Right here. Seriously, just click it.

                    Completed: . . ... More vert lerv . . . . . . . Blumats, vert, n' dirt

                    "Then they took me by the hand, and they invited me right in.. Then they showed me something, I don't even know where to begin.."

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by megayields View Post
                      sub'd...puff...puff
                      Good to see you're on board bro! It wouldn't be the same without you!

                      Originally posted by Yakov View Post
                      luv the photos, can't wait for more, subbed.


                      Originally posted by silver hawaiian View Post

                      Glad to see a new thread! I betcha couldn't stand to sit idly by after _D and I finally got off our lazy asses and fired one up ourselves..

                      So share with the group please What have been the observations that've stuck with you in particular in the synthetic nutes -> organic approach?

                      What prompted the switch?

                      Yeah its been bugging me... but I needed to take a break! The plants did fine without the regular photo sessions.

                      Since you asked about my philosophy...

                      Lets start from the beginning. I got into this originally while I was in business school. I smoked a little weed, I knew a lot of people who smoked weed, and smuggling my own back from Mexico was only partially successful... (I'm a little crazy for anyone who hasn't followed my threads)

                      I was in business school because I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, but I knew I wanted to make a lot of money doing whatever it was. Make a shit load of cash fast and retire young, that was the dream. I applied this to my growing techniques with vert SOGs... But vert SOG's are easier said than done. The bigger you get, the more pitfalls you encounter. I was mildly successful.

                      During this time I began to study biology and chemistry, and began a career change into the medical field. Things I never understood before became common knowledge to me. I began applying my scientific thinking to my grows, using beneficial microbes to beat bug infestations and stimulate root growth. This success got me interested in organics, but everyone I talked to running organic soil mixes said that they still used some synthetic fertilizers throughout the grow. I didn't see the point in starting organic, to finish with synthetics. Then I got to talking a bit with Veg N Out and reading his posts. I read the whole big plant thread. Read a lot of the ROLS thread. Read some research papers including many from Dr. Albrecht and Reams... and I got a much better understanding of organic farming. NPK isn't NPK. Organic fertilizers are superior in all aspects except yield... and as my pictures demonstrate, yields aren't dictated by the type of fertilizer you use. Its about knowing how to use it. Foliar sprays and teas are the answer to making it to the end of an organic grow without the addition of synthetic fertilizer. Why guess what type of nutrients the plants would like? If you put the components in the soil, and charge the battery, the plants will make available what they need when they need it. Part of this is establishing the soil food web, which takes time... So if its a one and done grow... Synthetic nutes might be a better option depending on the grower... But lets say you've set up shop to grow for several years, and because you're going to stay state compliant, you're not worried about getting shut down by law enforcement. There's no reason you can't establish a soil food web and grow some high quality organic meds.

                      Now my growing is about life, love, and sustainability. The tortoise always beats the hare. I don't need to make $500k this year when I can make $100k a year legit over the next 5 years. No sleepless nights. No giving up my social life and dedicating everything to the grow. This is temporary for me. I'm not going to grow on this scale forever. One day soon I'll take this hobby back in the closet, maybe even shut down entirely. This is a stepping stone for me. My feet are planted firmly so that I don't fall into the river, and my eyes are already on the next stone. I'm almost across the river!


                      Originally posted by yortbogey View Post
                      just SpAnKyInG...those broads... lushes buds~indeed
                      Thanks yort! I was impressed.

                      Originally posted by BreezeEazy View Post
                      Dang dude. Stay compliant man. MI isn't the state to take chances. Bill Schuette has made it well known that he has every intent of sticking it to the medical growers and patients whenever possible. The recent concentrate BS going on is absurd.
                      I started growing before the medical program was in place... So I always had the paranoid mindset... Things are different now. Thanks for the advice.

                      Originally posted by silver hawaiian View Post

                      Look bobble, someone who understands our plight
                      Our plight? A few years ago I was detained by the DEA in a raid, gave them a 1/2lb of bud and 1/4lb of hash, and walked away with my freedom after telling the agent questioning me I can grow more. lol... We have more freedoms than most of the country. We smoke better bud than most of the country. Our plight... sheesh...
                      Last edited by bobblehead; 09-13-2013, 05:44.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        Since you asked about my philosophy...

                        ...etc.


                        Our plight? A few years ago I was detained by the DEA in a raid, gave them a 1/2lb of bud and 1/4lb of hash, and walked away with my freedom after telling the agent questioning me I can grow more. lol... We have more freedoms than most of the country. We smoke better bud than most of the country. Our plight... sheesh...
                        Did I say plight?

                        I meant anxiety.

                        But no shit, BreezeEazy hit it on the head with the MMJ climate here, IMO.
                        Current project: ..Right here. Seriously, just click it.

                        Completed: . . ... More vert lerv . . . . . . . Blumats, vert, n' dirt

                        "Then they took me by the hand, and they invited me right in.. Then they showed me something, I don't even know where to begin.."

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                          Dude, I've had no problems! lol... I'm not looking to push my luck, but I've had good luck the past few years. I got pulled over for speeding a few month ago with 2 plants in my front passenger seat. The officer didn't even notice! No joke, did not even see these 12" plants! My karma is right I guess. Not everyone is as lucky as I have been.

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                            #14
                            Looking proper bobble.


                            After going sealed w/ a split, commercial dehumidifier, & co2 I don't think I'll ever invest my time and money into another project again without so.


                            Looking forward to more of your work now that you're in a legit spot w/o all the house issues.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by FlowerFarmer View Post
                              Looking proper bobble.


                              After going sealed w/ a split, commercial dehumidifier, & co2 I don't think I'll ever invest my time and money into another project again without so.
                              Couldn't agree more FF. I love my sealed rooms.
                              Last edited by Treetroit City; 09-13-2013, 15:36.
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