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  • BeasleysBud
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    Originally posted by romanoweed View Post
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ID:	17941356 Hairs are looking like ganja too on this.. But the Resin is higher on the KalyHops?
    Updated photos show that there’s not much difference (if any) from “normal” hops but I’m still holding out hope. Just hitting 12/12 light dark.

    I’ll wait for the buds to get fuller before I take for testing of THC.. I probably have 3 or 4 weeks left.

    On a Different Note: Found 3 buds on one of my favorite plants had inchworm buried in and causing black rot!! Evicted pests cut back as little as possible and sprayed with a natural garden pest control spray.

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  • romanoweed
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  • BeasleysBud
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ID:	17941314Sunlight is just about 12/12 and the plant is starting to flower. The vines are now shorter in between new leaves, as though it is rushing.
    Some leaves are starting to curl and brown.
    I used bonemeal about three weeks ago. I just spread it around and let the rain soak it in.. and we did get rain.. a lot of it.. the plant held up well but it wasn’t in any standing water.
    lol I plan on brewing with this and will probably run a separate thread when that happens!

    Note: If “Legitimo” turns out to be unicorn feed… I still have a couple girls that are looking sexy!!
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  • maryjaneismyfre
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    You should start getting those brewing supplies ready! That bush is turning into a monster!

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  • BeasleysBud
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    Just an update,
    My girls are starting to bud, and every time I think “Possible Legitimo” is going to start budding… it just keeps growing. But today I think we are getting close.

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  • maryjaneismyfre
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    Very interesting if so..very interesting read! learn something new everyday!

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  • romanoweed
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    Originally posted by maryjaneismyfre View Post

    Grafting is known to be possible and done, but it does not magically make the host or graft plant change its DNA to now start producing novel chemicals that it never could before, it does not work like that.
    i dont wanna talk controversial, but i think this has latel been disprooven. they found out that grafting DIFFERENT SPECIES (say Hops and Tomatos) can infact lead to mixed Genetics in the Grft.

    I cant find the Article i read, here is a similar one: https://www.mpg.de/5010542/genetic_information_plants it has been prooven by renowned german Institute.. And there was more info in the article i read, they said genetic exchange happens very often

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  • maryjaneismyfre
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    Originally posted by Cvh View Post
    Anybody by chance has managed to find a study/article that confirms that crossbreeding Cannabis and (Japanese) hops is possible?
    No..and I have looked..The ones that claim to have, not kalyseeds..well, too many libel lawsuits, proven frauds and all there, for me to take their claims with more than a pinch of salt. Grafting is known to be possible and done, but it does not magically make the host or graft plant change its DNA to now start producing novel chemicals that it never could before, it does not work like that. Making viable seed..well as close as hops and weed are, we are closer to chimpanzees as far as I know and I doubt if someone shags a chimpanzee that will a viable embryo form, it does not happen like that. And I am pretty sure that even if a chimera was formed by the beastiality, it would be the first chimera in history to make fertile offspring. On the note of grafting, it is old news to make a super mom for novelty that is a bunch of your favourite clones grafted onto one root stock, so lets say I have a sour diesel branch cloned on the super mom, and a cookies, and a cheese, and a haze and a tangie..If I take a cut from each and grow them out, just because they live on the same rootstock there will be no influence on the chemistry of the clones, the sourD will still taste of sourD not haze, the cheese will still smell like it does and not like cookies and tangie will still smell like a stinkbud shat a mandarin out, they will not magically start making novel terpenes because it is attached to another plant that can as far as I know.

    The fact that weed and hops are related is about as relevant as tomato and tobacco being related, it doesn't mean you can create fertile hybrids from them that you can further breed with nor does it mean you can hybridize them at all. You can make a liger out of a tiger and a lion, but lions are panthera leo and tigers are panthera tigris, they are closely related and of the same genus, the offspring though you cannot breed with, they are not fertile. Weed is a whole other genus to hops, cannabis and humulus, though related through a common ancestor just as in the same we are related to chimps, through a common ancestor.

    Beasleys, what continent are you situated on? The humulus japonicus that I am 99.999% sure you are growing is a declared invasive species in northern america and europe and spread widely via seed and animals apparently, when I read up on it, so not a slight chance in the least to fall from the sky into your pot, it completely normal and common, pretty much every potplant in my garden has at least one weed that came from the sky fuck knows where, growing in it..I'm not saying pull the plant out because of it's declared invasive species label, not at all, just saying that it is widespread on multiple continents and spreads wide easily as the nature of the species it most likely is, so grow some killer hops, I hope you have a female plant that will make female buds as like with weed that is what you want, and then make some killer beer from your homegrown hops! And fuckin enjoy every last sip of it while you smoking some of your first homegrown! Welcome to the party..

    Last year under lockdown, while everyone was hiding in their houses from corona, I was sneaking out to have full moon parties on the beach by myself (and no moon parties in the pitch darkness LOL) with my fishing rod, till first light, homegrown leaf to chew, some homegrown shrooms which are also weeds that grow out my potplants in the yard , homebrew beer (as they banned alcohol sales round my parts, the fascists!) and fat prerolled bats of my homegrown...one man fuckin all nighter freedom celebrations! And a deckchair and some snacks and lots of prefrozen prepared prerigged baits as I had to fish by the moonlight. What you put in is what you get out.
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  • troutman
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    Originally posted by Cvh View Post
    Anybody by chance has managed to find a study/article that confirms that crossbreeding Cannabis and (Japanese) hops is possible?
    Even if it were possible the potency would go down for sure. It would be worse than crossing an Elite Cannabis strain with Hemp.

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  • romanoweed
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    Ive also seen someone that managed to make Seeds from Crosspolination between t^Canna-Hops. He showed picstures too. But seeds werent viable with a very thin shell. So, it makes atleast hope, i mean if seeds even formed. Probably kalyseeds did a Crosspollination, atleast he seems to claim it worked.

    Really i got a good impression by him finally, Kalyseeds just doesent have time to explain it well, that was atleast my impression after reading from someone that worked with him. If i were eager to get some seeds from someones probably small achievements, but probably infact achievements, then i would simply buy some of the Hops-Seeds, and the Seeds that he infact labels as crosses between Hops-Canna.

    But dont take my word for it, but take my german english translation that i do for you from reading german forums.

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  • Cvh
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    Anybody by chance has managed to find a study/article that confirms that crossbreeding Cannabis and (Japanese) hops is possible?

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  • romanoweed
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    I read now, someone grew a Hops Strain from Kalyseeds, and he seemed to say that it had at maximum very very low THC. He said it somked roundabout like smoking Hemp. It also didnt produce resin, so if you wanna make extracts, may be probalematic.

    But its still scientifically interesting . Also he couldnt rule out if he would have to go trough more of the Seeds.

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  • romanoweed
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    Ok, im updating as i read. Someone finally said something interesting:

    Here in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyJn9OfIqMk he proves that after a Grafting that two kinds of Chromosomes can theoretically be passed on. He graftet two Tomato Strains on each other. A Thinstem wild Strain, and a thickstem Heirloom.
    He used a special-Grafing method, and as you can see there is the bigest shoot with round-heirloom Leaves Plus Thick Stem. Aswell there is the Wild Rootstock with thin Stem.

    And there is another Shoot with thick Stem , but Leaves from the Wild Strain. So, a mix from different Chromosomes is in one single Shoot.
    He breaks it of for Demonstration , and tells that this mixed genetic will be inherited if you make seeds with it!!!

    So i guess some of his Hops that he seels that he claims contain Thc, are a Hops that has been grafted on to a Cannabis-rootstock, the Thc gene was passed on to the upper graft, and he then either selved it to make seeds or crossed it to another normal Hops, or probably he managed to find two occasions where this Thc-Gene was paased on, and could pollinate them to make reg seeds


    (this Info came from someone who worked with him)

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  • romanoweed
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    I really get tired watching him, lets say here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exj1pMkiFLw

    He says the Hops tests for 9 percent THC.. But then he says he has grafted it onto cannabis.

    But in the end i cant make even the slightes conclusion wich Stain that he sells will give you wich Substances(THC CBD) .
    He also seemed to emphasize that after A YEAR it shows this Substances. But here again, i cant make sense if the Time is crutial.

    So , i cant make full clear sense out anything he writes , or says..

    Just one thing he seems clearly to suggest, that Hops grafted on Cannabis CAN produce thc. So, im asking myselve if this Genetic Change can be passed on, and is infact now inherited in some of his Seeds he sells. This is my specualtion.. Cause he advertises some Hops on his Site as Thc-containing Hops i recall..

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