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    #16
    I am not a scientist...and I didn't formulate spinosad, however I did stay at a holliday inn last night

    I wouldn't worry about it though...in all seriousness. Spinosad is a live culture, a microorganism. It hasn't shown any harm to mammals...especially humans. My grow room is less than 3 feet from where I sleep at night...I haven't noticed any ill effects yet...yet. lol But that doesn't mean anything really... I might drop dead in 10 years cause of this...you never know.

    Carpet is a no no for any grow room...for lots of reasons. It is a perfect 'safe harbor' for all sorts of nasties...mold, pathogens, bugs, etc. If you can...rip that shit up and put down something a little less giving. I tore out my carpet in the height of my thrip problems...and guess what I found down underneath the carpet padding? If you can't rip the carpet out...I would spray with the spinosad. Use caution though...I haven't tested this stuff on carpet to see what it does, if anything. My advice on that would be to test a small corner piece of carpet and wait a week. IF you notice anything you don't like...then don't spray.

    Spinosad works by direct contact...or by ingestion. Theoretically you could spray the carpet and when the thrips came in contact they would be killed. But how thoroughly would you need to drench the carpet to get 'contact'...I don't know.

    It is good practice to tear down and clean walls, floors, and all surfaces thoroughly in between runs. This will only make your job as a caretaker much easier. Remember, preventative maintenance is the best kind of maintenance in an herb garden.

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      #17
      ^^ hell yea my thoughts exactly, i was thinking of (after spraying the carpet down with spinosad), to screw down a piece of tarp under the 1k watt light.....and effectively cover the surface of the closet. Obviously wuldnt be ripping out the carpet but deff would become a barrier for the thrips....and yes after i finish up whats in the closet ill do a nice cleaning. The veg side ill just spray down with spino sad,,,i hope the 1 qt bottle lasts long enough...does that stuff go a long way?? i sure hope so! Thanks again for the help dood you sure know how to help people out man you are awesome!!!!! thank you thank you!!
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        #18
        Hey kokua whenever you get online can you help me figure out how to apply this spinosad? it jost arrived in the mail today!! i wanna get started on killing them right now!!! the label calls for 4 table spoons per gallon of water!! thats a hefty ammount is that about correct??? please let me know as soon as you can i wanna apply some ASAP!! i pray it works...if this doesnt work im ordering 1500 lady bugs!!!
        Karma Genetics - 2009 I.C. Magazine Sativa Cup first place winner with Amnesia!! Now testing Karma Seed!!
        currently testing out H.T.C. - Power House
        New Grow Along
        SUBY : Our thoughts and prayers are with you brother!
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          #19
          Well im incredibly happy to report to you that the spinosad seems to have worked....with oneapplication i see ZERO thrips today.....me & missnycdfan inspected every single leaf we could(obviously we missed a few here nthere) but where we would normallly see thrips we saw NOTHING, i actually think i saw a carcass or two...either they just fell off int he soil below(wich i sprayed withs pinosad) and died, or they went to the carpet..wich i also sprayed with spinosad!
          So far so good....so i will pray two more times.....once per week?? is that how it goes kokua?? i still have the bloom room to contend with( i took the 2.5 week old kodiak gold lady and sprayed her down even tho i know once shes put back shelll get some thrips on her..but at least im tyring...i also lycol-ed and spinosaded the walls and carpet leading to veg area and im trying to not touch the veg area once ive touched the bloom room! i dont expect to get them alll at once..but in time i will eradicate these guys as soon as i harvest the kodiak golds!!! thats fer sure!!!!! i might cull a 90 day ISS plant simply because she owuld fuck up the whole time frame!! the kodiaks are almost finished(with the exception of the 90 day ISS pheno and the 2.5 week old seedling kodiak)so i can jusst harvest the KG, kill the 90 dayer, spray the 3 wks old KG female..and then take verything out shut down for a a good 12 hrs(put the single KG female in the veg side while i clean the bloom room heavily ...with bleach/water combo and lycol). Wish me luck!

          but i wanna give a major thank you to KOKUA that spray apparently so far has worked on the veg side...ive looked several times with two sets of eyes(me & missnycdfan) and we both agreee something deffinitely worked..because we see ZERO thrips in the veg area!!! i will check regularly, but if i dont see anything should i continue the recommended one spray a week for 3 week schedule?? and again i will do my best between now and harvest to lycol the carpet and spino sad the areas linking both grow areas!!
          thanks again KOKUA for the amazing thread, information and most of all your efforts and intellect...much K+++++... have a great weekend!!!
          Karma Genetics - 2009 I.C. Magazine Sativa Cup first place winner with Amnesia!! Now testing Karma Seed!!
          currently testing out H.T.C. - Power House
          New Grow Along
          SUBY : Our thoughts and prayers are with you brother!
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            #20
            its great to hear you are seeing positive results!!

            I would continue to spray...1x per week for 2 more applications.

            It was pretty easy wasn't it? lol Spinosad rules!

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              #21
              very informative. thanks kokua.

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                #22
                anyone use this as a soil drench to clear thrip colonization of the root zone?

                I just picked some monterey insect spray and was wondering if anyone expects any ill effecs by doing a soil drench @ the rate they recommend for foliar spraying.

                many thanks
                stb

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                  #23
                  STB...what I always did was just spray the top of the soil thoroughly...not to drench the entire rootball, just the top inch or two. After 3 applications of foliar to the plant and the top of the soil, your area should be completely void of thrips. The first application gets the majority of them...the follow up sprays are backup.

                  Its good to hear that your thrip nightmare is over STB!!

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                    #24
                    "The oral LD50 for rats and mice is >5000 mg/kg."

                    Safe enough for me! Does anybody know about Spinosad's ability to continually kill thrips, generation after generation? In other words, have there been any reports of Spinosad-resistant thrips? Because Avid used to be the final solution for spider mites, and after 20 years of every commercial gardener using the stuff, a whole host of Avid-resistant mites have come about....

                    Great post, Kokua/Sunnyside!

                    Cheers!
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                      #25
                      Thanks for the tips Kokua, I apprecaite it!
                      Ive been doing a similar application method in the past with neem/sesame oil on the top inch or so of medium, but looking forward to seeing the thrips gone for good with the spinosad!

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                        #26
                        i have some of these thrips, they are as bad as bad trips.
                        it seems that i can get rid of the issue by using vape mosquito killer,
                        something like this: liquid mosquito killer iam using it at night, fans turned off.

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                          #27
                          My friend's in day 20 of flower and he just found 2 thrips in a 10' x 10' garden. Yeh, just 2 - I'm sure he missed a few more here and there. No spotting or anything yet. Should he do anything?

                          Last grow there were tons of fungus gnats he tolerated, this time he's using mosquito dunks and he sees just one or 2 gnats a day, so they're well under control.

                          Seeing as thrips larvae live in the soil too and are killed by the bacillus thuriengensis as well as the gnats, is the thrips under control? Will the population explode soon? How about using 10,000 ppm CO2, will that kill them? And does floramite work on them? I'm not sure if it's too late in flower to use it. He has that, but not the spinosad.
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                            #28
                            Trying out the magic juice kokua. Thanks for the post.
                            If it matters that much we'll roll one for everybody.

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                              #29
                              Another control is to use blue sticky cards, with thrip pheromones. They also help show when your problem is beginning.

                              -SamS

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                                #30
                                is spinosad safe to spray during flower? I sprayed once before the flowering was in full force, but they've come back and now i fear that it is too late to spray.

                                if it's too late for me to spray, should i just try using some ladybugs and nematodes?

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