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    Here's my 2 cents.
    If you didn't catch the mites before you have flowers on the plants, sorry, you have mites and will have to live with them until the next cycle. You can only slow them down at this point. You CAN kill them, but it will really mess up your quality, more than the mites would. Let's say you have some nice buds going but they have mites. You can pyrethrin bomb them, kill the mites crawling on them, but the eggs will still live. The eggs will hatch and your buds will smell like pyrethrin. You can do it 2 more times, and MAYBE (most likely not, speaking out of experience) kill the mites off, and your bud will be covered in pyrethrins, and the mite damage anyway.
    Okay, plan B, suffocate them with CO2. So you flood your room with CO2, but did you evacuate your entire room of oxygen before you did so? They don't need much to survive. I would like to hear from someone that this method was effective. You just spent money on CO2 with no effect.
    Plan C, spray the buds and leaves with neem/pyrethrins. This will kill the mites, but you will have neem and pyrethrins, as well as the mite damage that is already there, on your harvest.
    Plan D, use a systemic like Avid. Cool, now you have dead mites and mite damage as well as something poisinous as hell coating your buds. Ya, plan C tasted bad, but at least it doesn't give you cancer.
    If you have flowers and mites, either cut down, or throw an A/C in there and make it cold. You will still have mites, but you might prevent the entire thing from being covered in webs.
    Let me say on prevention. If you get clones from someone, spray them with a neem/pyrethin mix as soon as you get them. I prefer natural guard, it is the shit and is cheap. Make sure to run the branches through your hands as you spray, so you get the top and bottom (they live on the bottom of leaves mostly) of ALL the leaves coated with the stuff. Seal your rooms up extra good, and put filters on any air intakes that are coming in. When you come in from outside, take off your shoes, socks, clothes and put on something clean before you enter rooms with plants in them. Also check plants regularly before you flower them. If they have mites, spray everything in that room with the neem/pyrethrin mix, even if it doesn't look like they have mites. All at once. I get mites in my veg room regularly and keep them under control through early prevention. In between cycles, clear out the flower room, bug bomb with some raid bombs (no plants in there!) and hit the room with some peroxide or bleach.
    Bottom line is cleanliness is key. You can either take the extra steps and be mite free, or cut corners and risk it. I've been mite free in flower for 2 years because I spent the extra minute before anything enters the flower room.

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      never make it cold with the a/c they just hibernate till weather get better suited for them.
      what you want to do is raise the temps because it speeds up there life and cooks there ass. with sprayin every 2-3 days with neem should do it.

      allways check your plants to see if its working and see if stuff is wiping them out.

      for flower you have to make some decisions.ride it out or make your weed taste bad......

      hope everything works out for you.
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        making it cold with A/C and hibernating isn't bad if you clear out and clean the room well after the cycle. Make sure the finished product is sealed and relocated! heating it up will just make them reproduce faster. the spray I use will take them out in one app if they aren't heavily infested. 2 apps in a week if it is heavy (no webs but LOTS of spotting)

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          Lavender oil tea or any of the essential oils have been recommended as an organic alternative. I use it as a preventative every 3 days. Cant' hurt and I've had no infestation in an area where mites are a problem. My room is not a "clean room" yet. I'm still building stuff in there and am in and out a lot without changing my clothes.

          Tobacco tea can also be used.

          Have a bug free day. bg

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            damn, applying anything every three days just sounds terrible. Get that ish built and start the good practices!

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              other more natural insecticides for mites include

              marigold (tagetes minuta),mugwort,tobacco rustica,rhubarb leaves, pyrethrum chrysanthemum flowers of course,rape seed oil and other horticultural oils,,

              these in any combination will kill mites effectively.. and horticultural oils mixed with insecticidal soap works pretty well if you blast all the webbing away first with water,,

              dont know if you want to spray these things on ganja in flower though so keep that in mind,, dipping in floramite works well,,
              "The kingdom of heaven is within you and without you ; any man who knows himself shall find it"

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                wow great thread .. i am going to use all this great info i have been reading , i have been fighting the little bastards for a while , neem oil and dish soap. i will be making a tobacco tea and use that and see how it works.

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                  Originally posted by B. Friendly View Post

                  Biological Control:
                  TARGET: Spider Mites
                  AGENT:
                  Spider Mite Preds
                  SPECIAL SKILL:
                  Enjoys high humidity, breeds faster than spider mites.
                  WEAPON ID:
                  The three main spider mite preds are: Mesoseiulus longipes, Neoseiulus californicus, and Phytoseiulus persimilis. These are available as a triple-pack from some suppliers. Highly recommended.
                  BRIEF:
                  Spider mite predators are small mites that eat only Spider Mites. They not only feed on spider mites and their eggs, they also breed twice as fast! Each spider mite predator sucks the juice out of about five spider mites a day, or twenty of their eggs. Different species of spider mite predators have their own preferred temperature and humidity. If you use a mix then each type will seek out their preferred “zones” in the plant structure. Predator mites do best with warm temperatures and high humidity. The more moisture in the air the better. (Spider mites hate high humidity.) They move quicker and reproduce faster than the spider mites. For best results apply one predator for every five spider mites, so you best catch that infestation early or deploy them as a precautionary measure.
                  Need extra reinforcements? Try Stethorus Punctillum. These specialist spider mite destroyers are actually tiny ladybugs which can eat more than 40 mites per day as adults. They eat spider mites at all stages and can find new infestations on their own by flying. Adult female spider mite destroyers lay up to 15 eggs per day. Just 100 spider mite destroyers are enough to start up a colony to protect an average home greenhouse.
                  excellent info on predatory mites in this post ... here is more:https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=231839&page=2
                  Stoner4life we are thinking of you!

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                    brief and very informative post thanks

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                      If you really want to get rid of spiders use pesticides.

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                        thanks folks

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                          An approach for a Mite infestation with the aim of control. (I don't believe a total elimination is possible nor infact if necessary)
                          When faced with a mite infestation the following factors need to be considered in order to determine what control method should be used. Identification of the type mite infestation, the type of environment you growing in, what control methods are available and which are best suited for your growing purposes.

                          For example.
                          Growing organically, indoors at a temp of +- 27 to 30deg Celsius, humidity between 60 and 99% (on and off cycle.) I have identified spider mites, broad mite with small populations of thrips.

                          Control methods
                          Chemical (Not an option)
                          Natural “organic” sprays (I have tried several of these ie. Neem oil, Syringa and Fish hydrolosate and foliar spray) with the following result in high temperatures. Definite decrease in mites but the oil forms a “hard” layer over the leaf, clogging the stomata) Plant growth stunts due to biological dysfunctional systems. No choice at all for me. Opting for a biological control method, I have compared what predator mites will best perform in my growing environment. I have chosen to compare Persimilis, Californicus and Swirski for this purpose reaching the following conclusion. (See below for information on which I have based my conclusion)

                          Conclusion
                          On observation of broad mites and spider mites: immediately introduce Swirski and Califronicus. Apply over infested areas, regularly, over the full cycle of your mite infestation. (Continually observing your plants) Between these predators you have a effective mite control between 25 and 33deg Celcius) and high humidities between 55% and 99%. However, it seems that Swirski is less effective than Califronicus, when humidity is less than 70%. Persimilis, in the environment that I have outlaid, is not suited due to high temperatures and its feeding behavior.

                          You can, where possible, adjust your growing environment to address habitat conditions for the predator mites that you have introduced, in context of the conditions required for growing your plants.

                          I have enclosed some short notes on which I have based my conclusions. I have also referred to internet sources. (Knowing and recognizing the biology of glasshouse pest and their natural enemies - M H Malais – W J Ravensberg)

                          Persimilis
                          Population growth
                          20degr C, female Persimilis mite lays more eggs than female spider mite. The predator population contains more females. Population of predator out performs its prey. Above 30 deg C persimilis cannot control spider mite populations.
                          Relative humidity lower than 60% adverse effect on populating growth and therefore Persimilis does not perform well under dry warm conditions
                          Feeding behavior
                          If temperature increases, consumption of prey increases, but above 30 and at 35 deg c, feeding stops.
                          Optimal temperature for controlling spider mites is between 15 and 25 degrees c
                          Persimilis is mostly dependant on Spider Mites but turn can become cannibalistic and population will decline dramatically. Therefore you will have to reintroduce with each out break of spider mite.
                          Californicus
                          Population growth
                          Increases with temperature and can still develop healthy at 33deg C.
                          At 10deg C and relative humidity of less than 60 % negative effect on californicus populations. The adverse effect of low humidities is weaker than in Persimilis.
                          Feeding:
                          Consumes less prey than persimilis at high density of spider mites, but at lower spider mite densities consumes more. Absence of spider mites, californicus can survive on thirps, moulds, nectar, broad mites and survives without food for some time.
                          Swirskii
                          Population growth
                          Feeding: Thrips, white fly, spider mites, broad mites. If sufficient food, they grow very quickly from 10 to an average of 600 predatory mites per plant over 3 weeks. Found throughout plant. Warm humid conditions. Critical RH about 70% around microclimate of leaf surface less than 70% mites will not hatch.
                          Optimal conditions 25 and 28 deg Celsius.
                          Predatory mites do not go dormant in response to shorter days and lower temperatures (less than 12hours of light) Below 15 degrees Celsius inactive.
                          Many ways to release predators. Shakers are immediate and easily applied, while slow release bags are more labour intensive to distribute and should not be watered. It was suggested to me to rather purchase shakers as required as this will serve the same purpose as the bags.

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                            Thanks for the info!!
                            100% medically compliant, and grateful.

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                              My very effective and cheap remedy to spider mites just discovered that killed all adults within 30 minutes, and I think will also kill or keep the eggs from hatching. I'm watching very closely.
                              Ratio based on one gallon of water:
                              2% pure 100% Rosemary Oil
                              2 tablespoons Mrs. Meyers dish soap that contains ingredients of natural essential oils as follows:
                              Hydrogenated Castor oil
                              Glycerin
                              Rosemary leaf oil
                              Peppermint oil
                              Sweet Almond oil
                              Orange peel oil
                              Lavender oil
                              Eucalyptus oil
                              Ginger root oil
                              Sandalwood seed oil
                              Patchouli oil
                              Sandalwood seed oil and a few more oils and ingredients. All are all natural and not in one way harmful to plants.

                              Rosemary oil cost is about $5.00 per 30mil bottle. Less if bought in larger quantities.
                              Mrs. Meyers dish soap $3.99 per 16oz bottle.
                              I sprayed every part of 600 clones including the tables. The plants seemed to love it. The room smells very nice too. I think this recipe will work all the way to the last day of 12/12 but use less soap if none completely.

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                                Buy a small container of floramite off of ebay for 20 dollars.

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