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    Originally posted by ozzieAI View Post
    ...or you could root drench with emulsified neem oil...
    Hi mate any further development re feeding neem systemically. I would be interested to see the plant tested for neem in its system?
    Stoner4life we are thinking of you!

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      Originally posted by moses wellfleet View Post
      Hi mate any further development re feeding neem systemically. I would be interested to see the plant tested for neem in its system?
      i wish that i had the option to test my product...but in the land downunder...we are repressed mofo's....

      generally speaking neem/aza lasts up to 55 days when applied systemically...

      read my signature: neem has been used for for more years than written history....in my eyes, the most reliable source...

      along with cannabis and the coconut palm...the neem tree is a highly beneficial plant...
      Neem has been used extensively by humankind to treat various ailments before the availability of written records which recorded the beginning of history.

      We are not criminals - they are the criminals for criminalising cannabis horticulture -Gypsy Nirvana

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        ..to be fair: neem as a pesticide was only discovered in 1953 by the western world...when a locust plague didn't eat the neem tree and a German etymologist took note...i think!!
        Neem has been used extensively by humankind to treat various ailments before the availability of written records which recorded the beginning of history.

        We are not criminals - they are the criminals for criminalising cannabis horticulture -Gypsy Nirvana

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          Originally posted by ozzieAI View Post
          i wish that i had the option to test my product...but in the land downunder...we are repressed mofo's....

          generally speaking neem/aza lasts up to 55 days when applied systemically...

          read my signature: neem has been used for for more years than written history....in my eyes, the most reliable source...

          along with cannabis and the coconut palm...the neem tree is a highly beneficial plant...
          OK so I discovered too late that I was not too using pure Neem oil when I attempted to feed systemically. It was neem oil that had an alcohol base unfortunately.

          So I have finally sourced pure neem oil and can now give this thing a proper go!!
          Stoner4life we are thinking of you!

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            Originally posted by moses wellfleet View Post
            OK so I discovered too late that I was not too using pure Neem oil when I attempted to feed systemically. It was neem oil that had an alcohol base unfortunately.

            So I have finally sourced pure neem oil and can now give this thing a proper go!!
            just make sure you use a wetting agent to emulsify the neem oil with the water...
            Neem has been used extensively by humankind to treat various ailments before the availability of written records which recorded the beginning of history.

            We are not criminals - they are the criminals for criminalising cannabis horticulture -Gypsy Nirvana

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              I wish we were able to use neem or any of it derivatives but we are not.

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                i am currently in the middle of regimin against these beasties
                will do a pictorial here soon , just want to get more to the end of it before i do so
                to date i have done:
                a weakish triaz/gama treatment (lowes tree n shrub smomethingsomething)
                it slowed down the
                aphids but certaiunly was not an instant kill

                followed in 5 days by a safers soap root dunk, which surprisingly elimintaed the crawlies
                in addition i threw out a ton of unecesarry clones that were just bad off
                while dunking , i have gradually worked alot of the old bad infected coco from the younger pots replacing with fresh new coco.
                thats helped alot in the ones ive done
                safers really fucks w the ph so you kinda have to dick with flushes after a few days

                next up 6 days later was an imid dunk
                which destroyed any and all critters in what was left of the older rootballs
                i havent seen any bugs or flyers since the safers dunk btw

                followed by a second imid root dunk 6 days after this , in which i actually added some food and phd to 5.8

                after letting this dry i flushed this very sour coco (5.2-5.8 with up to 1600ppm runoffs before the feed) & fed with heads 6/9 (i run V+B normally)

                during this entire process (im gonna do a triaz dunk tomorrow) im still seeing slow but decent growth up top but fans exhibiting the classic fade/spot necrosis across everything
                but after the flush a few days ago thats finally starting to chill out. im only in veg with 5 3gals and 4 2qrts so its nothing more athan a proof of concept and im honestly waiting for the clones i took to strike until i just chop these mothers.

                i MIGHT flower out the moms just to keep the test going , maybe yall can chime in if youd be interested in me just doing a journey here and showing some pics of wether or not i can treat and go to flower and ultimitely harvest a normal crop that wont poison me.

                it might be cool to see ifits worth the effort or not
                i bought this shit , might as well use it even if i toss these things

                yall lemme know - btw i dont care much if the imid is in there cause ill run these things 60+ days Im growing for me and the wife, im not organic nor do i have patients .Im just a consumer tired of paying big bread for midgrade sensi


                and anyways , as a daily smoker for the last 37 years i can safely assume ive smoked LOTS of mexican and domestic pesticides
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                  Originally posted by Douglas.Curtis View Post
                  The potato slice trick works. 7 days later I found these bastards...
                  https://smoke.io/imageupload_data/6b...04ddbabb4e6cc9
                  Animated gif...
                  Was wondering why growth had slowed so much. Thought the soil was too hot there for a minute but, nope... that wasn't it.

                  I prefer mites...
                  Are those the crawlers or the flyers of root aphids? They don't look like the pictures I have seen.

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                    Originally posted by Boyd Crowder View Post
                    i am currently in the middle of regimin against these beasties
                    will do a pictorial here soon , just want to get more to the end of it before i do so
                    to date i have done:
                    a weakish triaz/gama treatment (lowes tree n shrub smomethingsomething)
                    it slowed down the
                    aphids but certaiunly was not an instant kill

                    followed in 5 days by a safers soap root dunk, which surprisingly elimintaed the crawlies
                    in addition i threw out a ton of unecesarry clones that were just bad off
                    while dunking , i have gradually worked alot of the old bad infected coco from the younger pots replacing with fresh new coco.
                    thats helped alot in the ones ive done
                    safers really fucks w the ph so you kinda have to dick with flushes after a few days

                    next up 6 days later was an imid dunk
                    which destroyed any and all critters in what was left of the older rootballs
                    i havent seen any bugs or flyers since the safers dunk btw

                    followed by a second imid root dunk 6 days after this , in which i actually added some food and phd to 5.8

                    after letting this dry i flushed this very sour coco (5.2-5.8 with up to 1600ppm runoffs before the feed) & fed with heads 6/9 (i run V+B normally)

                    during this entire process (im gonna do a triaz dunk tomorrow) im still seeing slow but decent growth up top but fans exhibiting the classic fade/spot necrosis across everything
                    but after the flush a few days ago thats finally starting to chill out. im only in veg with 5 3gals and 4 2qrts so its nothing more athan a proof of concept and im honestly waiting for the clones i took to strike until i just chop these mothers.

                    i MIGHT flower out the moms just to keep the test going , maybe yall can chime in if youd be interested in me just doing a journey here and showing some pics of wether or not i can treat and go to flower and ultimitely harvest a normal crop that wont poison me.

                    it might be cool to see ifits worth the effort or not
                    i bought this shit , might as well use it even if i toss these things

                    yall lemme know - btw i dont care much if the imid is in there cause ill run these things 60+ days Im growing for me and the wife, im not organic nor do i have patients .Im just a consumer tired of paying big bread for midgrade sensi


                    and anyways , as a daily smoker for the last 37 years i can safely assume ive smoked LOTS of mexican and domestic pesticides
                    ...or you could root drench with emulsified neem oil a couple of times...

                    good luck...
                    Neem has been used extensively by humankind to treat various ailments before the availability of written records which recorded the beginning of history.

                    We are not criminals - they are the criminals for criminalising cannabis horticulture -Gypsy Nirvana

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                      i dont like neem and its shown early in this thread its not effective against the fungus gnat.
                      i like to go with shit thats actually been tested by science and stuff, and PROVEN to be effective against these pests.
                      theres a university study listed in this thread that shows safers, imidiclorpid & triazicide to actually work alongside the %data, ie science
                      neem oil has not been proven as effective as these chems and soap. the soap is 96% kill
                      the imid is i think i remeber 98% triazicide is %95 and this stuff is relatively harmless, cheap and everywhere in my area.

                      Ive used neem for all sorts of stuff and it does work against some things, but bru - im not organic i dont care if its got traces of common pesticides in it, that shit i consume everday in the veggies and fruits in my diet. im over the organic thing - over it.

                      neem oil will gum up the roots and your plants. Read the first 40 pages or so of this thread.
                      neem dunks = no bueno
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                        Originally posted by Boyd Crowder View Post
                        i dont like neem and its shown early in this thread its not effective against the fungus gnat.
                        i like to go with shit thats actually been tested by science and stuff, and PROVEN to be effective against these pests.
                        theres a university study listed in this thread that shows safers, imidiclorpid & triazicide to actually work alongside the %data, ie science
                        neem oil has not been proven as effective as these chems and soap. the soap is 96% kill
                        the imid is i think i remeber 98% triazicide is %95 and this stuff is relatively harmless, cheap and everywhere in my area.

                        Ive used neem for all sorts of stuff and it does work against some things, but bru - im not organic i dont care if its got traces of common pesticides in it, that shit i consume everday in the veggies and fruits in my diet. im over the organic thing - over it.

                        neem oil will gum up the roots and your plants. Read the first 40 pages or so of this thread.
                        neem dunks = no bueno
                        the thing is that neem oil got a bad name when some companies sold 'hydrophobic' neem oil that had the major active ingredient (Azadirachtan) removed.

                        here is a link to a thread covering this issue: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=267654

                        neem oil is fine on the roots, here is a link to a side/side experiment i did: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=260048

                        i have been using neem oil and azamax for many years now, and there hasn't been one insect that it hasn't been able to defeat both indoors and out...

                        it's your grow and do what you want...it just that your points on neem are incorrect...
                        Neem has been used extensively by humankind to treat various ailments before the availability of written records which recorded the beginning of history.

                        We are not criminals - they are the criminals for criminalising cannabis horticulture -Gypsy Nirvana

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                          Boyd, try Spectracide Triazicide at 30ml per gal(if purchased in quart quantity, gallon use 15ml) it will reak havoc on them without phytotoxicity. Best of all , you won't end up smoking a neurotoxin and weaken your plants.

                          Been seeing dead, fungus covered aphids thanks to BioCeres, PFR-97 combo in my coco garden. Hoping it continues to be effective throughout the flower cycle without weekly application$.

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                            Has anyone here done a drench of rockwool with dr zymes eliminator and had any success? Again barred with what I can use ie no EPA reg numbers allowed.

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                              Reaching out again to see if anyone has had results with Dr Zymes. Have been experimenting with rates on my end. The high end rate caused a lot of curling in the plants when applied to the root zone. Medium as a drench caused one of my test plants to lock out. Medium as a sprench did help take the algae off the blocks and little to no photo on the leaves. Hoping to get somewhere with this.

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