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    yes I think Moses is right. They look like hypoaspis miles to me. I got some bagged soil from eb stone once and it was loaded with them. I don't buy their soil as it seems like they are dealing with some problems in their soil. Hypoaspis miles are good guys
    Last edited by calisun; 06-09-2020, 01:32. Reason: added last sentence

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      Like mw suggested, I also see a type of soil mite, which feed off decaying material and/or algae.

      Plants do have that look though....could it be something else you have overlooked? pH issues can certainly cause the plant to look bad like RA damage.

      Good vibes to you and hope you get on top of it soon.




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        damn if i aint got these beasties too
        it seems like this pest is just like every other
        in the canna world
        it splts people into two camps
        the nuke eveyrthing and start over
        and the rest of us
        im not tossing out my 6 cultivars
        im going to start tho with a good boil of the root masses at 125F
        then ima hit them with imid
        then ima hit em with gch
        then ima boil em again
        them ima hit em with some skeeter dunx
        and keep hitting them for about 3 weeks
        i have only a 2x4 veg and some houseplants on the other side of the house
        just gonna cleqn up
        toss this coco and sterilize my pots, rooms and such
        im not a commercial grower, i dont supply meds
        so fuck the whole start over shit until i absolutely HAVE to
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          Is this related to RA? Egg nest? Or is this a mold or fungi or something?



          Also, this a gnat or RA flyer?!





          Thanks Moses and Calison, I googled Hypoaspis Miles and that’s definitely the bug in the pic. I bought lots of Gnatrol and Botanigard already and so I’ll be treating my soils for RA’s and Gnats rant way I know I have some of one of those at least.
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            Those are both gnats. I do not know what the other stuff is. Could be slime mold.
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              I work in IPM for a grow. We have confirmed root aphids. Been fighting them off for months now. Very restrictive laws so I am barred on what I can use. Have tried all the trifectas of the world, cant spray them on the root ball the oil chokes the plant out. PureCrop1 has worked well for us and provided a knockdown. We also use Beauveria Bassiana on a schedule soon to have enough for drenches. Our biggest defense has been using exclusionary fabric to keep them trapped in and stop them from flying up into the canopy. Never was an option to kill our plats and start over. Anyone out there have any more recommendations?

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                As a follow up to my last post we also have used all sorts of beneficials such as atheta, chrysopa, assassin bugs, lady bug larva. We also use hypoaspis and swirskii as preventative for other pests. Finally we use a combo of nematodes.

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                  Originally posted by Pudgeman View Post
                  As a follow up to my last post we also have used all sorts of beneficials such as atheta, chrysopa, assassin bugs, lady bug larva. We also use hypoaspis and swirskii as preventative for other pests. Finally we use a combo of nematodes.
                  Were any of the beneficial organisms/insects effective at control, Pudgeman? I read that the nematodes assist in the dispersal of the Botanigard after a soil drench. Timing might be critical.

                  Is there a trade name for the exclusionary fabric? That's an interesting approach to control.

                  I wish I had something more to suggest.
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                    Originally posted by buzzmobile View Post
                    Were any of the beneficial organisms/insects effective at control, Pudgeman? I read that the nematodes assist in the dispersal of the Botanigard after a soil drench. Timing might be critical.

                    Is there a trade name for the exclusionary fabric? That's an interesting approach to control.

                    I wish I had something more to suggest.
                    We would find the green lace wing larva out thrashing crawlers and fliers that they came upon. Once they would become adults they would fly around the facility but not feed as much. The lady bug larva would eat as well but never made it to the adult stage or if they did they just flew up into the lights. The assassin bugs didn't seem to do much and are not pleasant to look at. We haven't spread atheta (rover beetles) in months but still see them hanging around. Again not too sure if they did much.

                    The nematodes at this point is anyone's guess. There is a lot of data suggesting that they actively kill RA but also data that shows they don't. We know for sure that they thrive in our plants environment though and hopefully they are helping spread the Beauvaria.

                    The exclusionary fabric is a one gallon paint strainer bag with an elastic top that we cinch down to the stalk. Most plants end up getting a second bag at some point because the roots will grow out the bottom of the bag.

                    All in all the RA are an issue but they really haven't caused many problems with our crop. Their biggest issue was adult fliers getting trapped in the buds that is why we are using the bags.

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                      Great info Pudgeman. I have found great success with Biosafe's BioCeres which is a strain of Beauveria that is slightly different than Botanigard's yet half the price. I also used pfr97 which may or may not have been the silver bullet(more testing needed). Biosafe's Azagaurd(azadarachtin) was applied at 2ml per gallon(4ml when not tank mixed with fungus) in order to slow them down further.

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                        Originally posted by Pudgeman View Post
                        We would find the green lace wing larva out thrashing crawlers and fliers that they came upon. Once they would become adults they would fly around the facility but not feed as much. The lady bug larva would eat as well but never made it to the adult stage or if they did they just flew up into the lights. The assassin bugs didn't seem to do much and are not pleasant to look at. We haven't spread atheta (rover beetles) in months but still see them hanging around. Again not too sure if they did much.

                        The nematodes at this point is anyone's guess. There is a lot of data suggesting that they actively kill RA but also data that shows they don't. We know for sure that they thrive in our plants environment though and hopefully they are helping spread the Beauvaria.

                        The exclusionary fabric is a one gallon paint strainer bag with an elastic top that we cinch down to the stalk. Most plants end up getting a second bag at some point because the roots will grow out the bottom of the bag.

                        All in all the RA are an issue but they really haven't caused many problems with our crop. Their biggest issue was adult fliers getting trapped in the buds that is why we are using the bags.
                        The nematodes I tried, steinerama feltiae, did absolutely nothing to the RAs, believe me I treated over a whole season at great expense.

                        If you have fliers turning up in your buds to the extent they are causing a problem, that is quite heavy pest pressure. There must surely be damage? Or are they only affecting certain containers and leaving others healthy? They are notorious for doing that, selective infestation?
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                          Originally posted by moses wellfleet View Post
                          The nematodes I tried, steinerama feltiae, did absolutely nothing to the RAs, believe me I treated over a whole season at great expense.

                          If you have fliers turning up in your buds to the extent they are causing a problem, that is quite heavy pest pressure. There must surely be damage? Or are they only affecting certain containers and leaving others healthy? They are notorious for doing that, selective infestation?
                          We had very heavy pressure at one point. Literally spread across our whole grow. The only area that we have kept fully clean is our clone room. But they are not causing any wilting or plant damage other than them being stuck in our flower. They chew on the roots but it isn't causing us to lose any TAC or weight in our plants. At this point though save for random flare ups the bags are what is doing the most to help us. Helps target the pest for our sprays as they are trapped.

                          To your point with the nematodes we have been using them since November with no real conclusive data. At one point our beneficial tab was larger than I would like to admit.

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                            Steinerama feltiae are extremely effective against fungus gnats, from personal experience. So it is possible the idea that sf work for root aphids came about when growers were confusing the two different pest species.
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                              I've read conflicting reports on whether or not winged RA's avoid you or not. Some people say Fungus Gnats are oblivious to you and are easy to remove; yet I am also reading peoples' experiences of RA's fitting this profile and infact Fungus Gnats are the quicker fliers.

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