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so this is another mandala seeds strain smoke report. i had fantastic plants from recent grows of satori and speed queen and on the strength of this i dipped my toe back into the Mandala catalogue and picked up some Hashberry. for the full grow thread please click here.
the breeders description of hashberry is below:
i chose this strain in particular for a number of reasons; first i suppose is the potential flavour, a rich hashy berry or black currant flavour would be nice to add to the collection and previous experiences with Mandala has led me to have quite good faith in their strain descriptions (rare in itself!) so why not have a look. second main reason was the potential for heat resistance, an easy going summer crop would be a bonus as the borg are regular visitors in the surprisingly hot, dry summers of late. the third (but perhaps less rational) reason to go along with the bud porn was an interesting story about one half of the lineage of this strain.
as the recent mass word of mouth promotion of the chemdawg cuts and before that the kush cuts illustrates how much respect a mystery bagseed line can get be it from motorbiking mountain men or in the case of hashberry, Haight Ashbury hippies. this fun story combines well with equal interest in the other side of the cross; a Kashmir male. i have a lot of respect for breeders using land race genetics to add a little extra spice into what feels like a stagnating genepool and Mandala add a healthy twist of old school in most (all?) of their lines it appears.
this seems to be the most well known and documented Mandala strain and it was probably icmags Mister Postman providing some tantalising bud shots (click here)that tipped me in favour of this paticular Mandala strain.
grow specifications:
medium -
soiless, JI + perlite + worm casts
pot size -
start in 10cm, veg to 12" in 6", finished in 8".
style -
lazy SOG, mild lower branch pruning to encourage single colas.
lighting -
30wpsf flo @ seed
~50wpsf mixed spectrum HID @ veg
50 + wpsf HPS @flower
nutes -
biobizz grow/bloom, rhizotonic, cannazyme, PK1314.
grow:
the seeds were healthy, plump, firm and tiger striped and all bursting with expectant life as I have come to expect from Mandala and came in the same style pack as my previous purchases.
breeders pack & seeds:
germination was good with 9 of 10 germing and growing straight from the medium, of this 9, 8 started healthy and 1 was a little runty but soon caught up. in veg they were pretty consistant, there was one trifoliate but it soon grew out of it and then they grew fairly strongly with a decent shot of hybrid vigour. plant structure was pretty consistant, the difference in veg showed as a broad leaf/thin leaf trait as well as examples that were mid points between the thickest and thinnest leaflets. broadly speaking branching was fairly consitent across all examples, in this tech side growth is not encouraged in order to form columnular shaped plants and as such this side growth did not develop strongly however this is a plant that could be trained into bushes (though this may require topping as the main stems are very sturdy) or left to grow naturally into heavily branched shrubs. anecdotally next time i run this (and the Satori) they will get larger pots as root growth is exceptionally vigorous. i am tempted to run some in DWC just to see the root balls in all their glory! i suspect this is one of the key things behind the general vigour and hardiness of the plants. all examples i took clones from also rooted nice and quickly too, not quite haz manor cheese fast but they beat out almost everything else that was cut at the same time by a couple of days.
In flower two dominant flower structure became evident, these could easily be identified as bat and spear flower structure difference though there were mid points just like with the leaves. stretch was fairly mild and easily controlled, they gained maybe 75% of their pre flowering height and when they were finished (cut down) they were a little over double the height they were when they went in to bloom. despite the mild yet significant variation in flower structure all females (8 or 10) were of roughly similar height and certainly wouldn't pose a problem in terms of getting a reasonable canopy.
amongst these two main flower structures flavours and aromas varied around a common sweet, fruit, berry theme. The bats lean towards a sweet berry/gum flavouring and the spears to a more tangy citrus fruit flavour. the full spectrum of flavours represented is wide and goes from bouquet of berries to a distinct blackberry to a lemon cleaner that would rival jacks cleaner and then to a sweet but more skunky flavour. these sweet skunk plants (3 of 8) were nice but could be considered a little generic against what is both flavour of the month now and reasonably available in other lines but two (more if you are less selective) stand out plants showed great aromas flavours, these were selected and will be reported on in more detail, one is a great combination of a bouquet of berry and fruit flavours with a tart citrus hit backed by a mellow hash undertone and the other has a deep blackberry stink again backed by a soft, mellow hash undertone. the final three all showed fruit and berry tones but less pronounced than the selected two. all had great resin coverage and most had a hint of hash in their palette of aromas. the charas were beautiful and i have high hopes for the blackberry pheno as a hashmaker.
i don't do weight but all types yielded above average and only one individual plant didn't quite match it's sisters. i didn't push her and had some ph issues (busted ph trunc) but she still filled out nicely. dialled in a think she will get FAT! overall they weren't needy plants at all, a low feed regime is required in all bar one case which was a hog.
all hashberry were taken at around 65 days (trichs were some clear, most cloudy, very few amber, as i like it) after a fairly long time of tapering off food to try and bring out the berry flavours. The spears were done a few days earlier than the bats but again not much in it, at least not enough for to make me take them in stages. i left one of each type (or a bit of where more than one plant wasn't available) to go a little longer and very little extra weight was added and resin coverage remained constant. The spear type was the nicer to trim and the bat type a freaken pain in the ass but then I detest trimming, charas were lovely though.
example thin leaf/spear type:
example thick leaf/bat type:
so this is another mandala seeds strain smoke report. i had fantastic plants from recent grows of satori and speed queen and on the strength of this i dipped my toe back into the Mandala catalogue and picked up some Hashberry. for the full grow thread please click here.
the breeders description of hashberry is below:
MandalaSeeds said:
i chose this strain in particular for a number of reasons; first i suppose is the potential flavour, a rich hashy berry or black currant flavour would be nice to add to the collection and previous experiences with Mandala has led me to have quite good faith in their strain descriptions (rare in itself!) so why not have a look. second main reason was the potential for heat resistance, an easy going summer crop would be a bonus as the borg are regular visitors in the surprisingly hot, dry summers of late. the third (but perhaps less rational) reason to go along with the bud porn was an interesting story about one half of the lineage of this strain.
Mandala Seeds - Heads Magazine said:
as the recent mass word of mouth promotion of the chemdawg cuts and before that the kush cuts illustrates how much respect a mystery bagseed line can get be it from motorbiking mountain men or in the case of hashberry, Haight Ashbury hippies. this fun story combines well with equal interest in the other side of the cross; a Kashmir male. i have a lot of respect for breeders using land race genetics to add a little extra spice into what feels like a stagnating genepool and Mandala add a healthy twist of old school in most (all?) of their lines it appears.
this seems to be the most well known and documented Mandala strain and it was probably icmags Mister Postman providing some tantalising bud shots (click here)that tipped me in favour of this paticular Mandala strain.
grow specifications:
medium -
soiless, JI + perlite + worm casts
pot size -
start in 10cm, veg to 12" in 6", finished in 8".
style -
lazy SOG, mild lower branch pruning to encourage single colas.
lighting -
30wpsf flo @ seed
~50wpsf mixed spectrum HID @ veg
50 + wpsf HPS @flower
nutes -
biobizz grow/bloom, rhizotonic, cannazyme, PK1314.
grow:
the seeds were healthy, plump, firm and tiger striped and all bursting with expectant life as I have come to expect from Mandala and came in the same style pack as my previous purchases.
breeders pack & seeds:
germination was good with 9 of 10 germing and growing straight from the medium, of this 9, 8 started healthy and 1 was a little runty but soon caught up. in veg they were pretty consistant, there was one trifoliate but it soon grew out of it and then they grew fairly strongly with a decent shot of hybrid vigour. plant structure was pretty consistant, the difference in veg showed as a broad leaf/thin leaf trait as well as examples that were mid points between the thickest and thinnest leaflets. broadly speaking branching was fairly consitent across all examples, in this tech side growth is not encouraged in order to form columnular shaped plants and as such this side growth did not develop strongly however this is a plant that could be trained into bushes (though this may require topping as the main stems are very sturdy) or left to grow naturally into heavily branched shrubs. anecdotally next time i run this (and the Satori) they will get larger pots as root growth is exceptionally vigorous. i am tempted to run some in DWC just to see the root balls in all their glory! i suspect this is one of the key things behind the general vigour and hardiness of the plants. all examples i took clones from also rooted nice and quickly too, not quite haz manor cheese fast but they beat out almost everything else that was cut at the same time by a couple of days.
In flower two dominant flower structure became evident, these could easily be identified as bat and spear flower structure difference though there were mid points just like with the leaves. stretch was fairly mild and easily controlled, they gained maybe 75% of their pre flowering height and when they were finished (cut down) they were a little over double the height they were when they went in to bloom. despite the mild yet significant variation in flower structure all females (8 or 10) were of roughly similar height and certainly wouldn't pose a problem in terms of getting a reasonable canopy.
amongst these two main flower structures flavours and aromas varied around a common sweet, fruit, berry theme. The bats lean towards a sweet berry/gum flavouring and the spears to a more tangy citrus fruit flavour. the full spectrum of flavours represented is wide and goes from bouquet of berries to a distinct blackberry to a lemon cleaner that would rival jacks cleaner and then to a sweet but more skunky flavour. these sweet skunk plants (3 of 8) were nice but could be considered a little generic against what is both flavour of the month now and reasonably available in other lines but two (more if you are less selective) stand out plants showed great aromas flavours, these were selected and will be reported on in more detail, one is a great combination of a bouquet of berry and fruit flavours with a tart citrus hit backed by a mellow hash undertone and the other has a deep blackberry stink again backed by a soft, mellow hash undertone. the final three all showed fruit and berry tones but less pronounced than the selected two. all had great resin coverage and most had a hint of hash in their palette of aromas. the charas were beautiful and i have high hopes for the blackberry pheno as a hashmaker.
i don't do weight but all types yielded above average and only one individual plant didn't quite match it's sisters. i didn't push her and had some ph issues (busted ph trunc) but she still filled out nicely. dialled in a think she will get FAT! overall they weren't needy plants at all, a low feed regime is required in all bar one case which was a hog.
all hashberry were taken at around 65 days (trichs were some clear, most cloudy, very few amber, as i like it) after a fairly long time of tapering off food to try and bring out the berry flavours. The spears were done a few days earlier than the bats but again not much in it, at least not enough for to make me take them in stages. i left one of each type (or a bit of where more than one plant wasn't available) to go a little longer and very little extra weight was added and resin coverage remained constant. The spear type was the nicer to trim and the bat type a freaken pain in the ass but then I detest trimming, charas were lovely though.
example thin leaf/spear type:
example thick leaf/bat type:
