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    #16
    Originally posted by Teh_Baker View Post
    I dont understand why it's so hard to believe... everyone believed that MTF was 32%... and i think for a lot of growers, 32% was the goal number to shoot for. Once someone achieves a certain number, thats where the bar is...

    And by the way, the smoke was incredible, 36% or not! It had an earthy lemon flavor, not in your face like lemon durban. And as i had previously said, i was not sober going in. In fact i am never sober, i stay as high as ossicones. Anyways, within 10 seconds of my first toke i was hit in the face with a soft sledge hammer, like a heavy pillow, lets call it a sledge-pillow. After this my vision seemed to be disconnected with feeling somehow. Like me consciousness was no longer attached to my body, but i could still control it...

    Moral of the story is: Even though i had just dabbed The White and smoked a fatty of Golden State Bananas, Golden lemmons, no matter the disputed thc content, was the one that really got me faded like a black t-shirt. And i smoke all day long!
    The only real confirmed example of someone doing over 30% is rb26 with gg4. If those numbers where true everyone would know about it not just the little shop in your area.

    Lol i dont think anyone ever based their growing off the "legendary" aka non exsistant MTF. I know i never did i never even heard someone say anything other than its a myth (like crippy).

    Glad you enjoyed the smoke thougj. Thats what matters most not bs numbers a plave tells you to sell shit higher price. The colourful letters are beyond stupid i still dont get that whole bit its like they are advertising to children

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      #17
      It's not over 30% THC, it's over 30% THC-Acid. There's a huge difference.

      30% THC-A is equal to 26.31 THC maximum equivalent. (30 x 0.877)

      0.877 = Molecular mass of THC / Molecular mass of THCA .

      You also can't add THC-A and THC mg/g and then convert to % by weight, makes no sense, the lab in the pic 2 above from Drewsif is non-sense.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Chimera View Post
        It's not over 30% THC, it's over 30% THC-Acid. There's a huge difference.

        30% THC-A is equal to 26.31 THC maximum equivalent. (30 x 0.877)

        0.877 = Molecular mass of THC / Molecular mass of THCA .

        You also can't add THC-A and THC mg/g and then convert to % by weight, makes no sense, the lab in the pic 2 above from Drewsif is non-sense.
        So you are saying that whole bit where rb26 ran around claiming he grows the worlds stronhest pot wasnt true? I just took his word as true because i dont give a shit either way

        I dont know why people even want testing its nonsense. Its only the people who know the least about weed or the sciency folks like chimera.

        I had some idiot tell me yesterday he wants a pound for less than $1000 prepackged into quarter oz with $70 UPC bar codes on them and test results. Now keep in mind the stuff he has now is all in jars with no testing and garentee hes paying more than that. I just laughed and said take care, good luck with that fantasy. Why does he feel he should buy for $1000 sell for $4500, how do i make money when retail expects to make it all. I griw a bunch of low yield high quality stuff i cant afford to sell a pound for less than 1000 nevermind the rest of the nonsense but the testing, thqts what shut down tge deal for me. Overal he was unreallistic he can go do all that himself im not desperate to vend to him.

        Lol i got a laugh i saw something that said the LPs are falling short on production needs, i know lots of growers dont want to bother because morons want to pay unrealistic prices, its going to come back to bite them when they wont be able to supply themselves let alone have shit to sell because everyone quit.

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          #19
          Originally posted by OG Expressions View Post
          So you are saying that whole bit where rb26 ran around claiming he grows the worlds stronhest pot wasnt true? I just took his word as true because i dont give a shit either way

          Nope, not saying anything about rb26. What I said exactly is quoted in your post above - let's not make it more than it is.

          That said, any results are only as good as the lab that analyzes the flowers. Some labs (especially in WA) test high; this is not the purpose of a lab- the purpose of a lab is to accurately quantify the compounds present within a flower or extract.

          There is a mistaken belief that the "strongest" or most "potent" pot is the pot with the highest THC concentration. This isn't the case, a 20% THC flower with the right terpene complement can be perceived as "stronger" than a flower that accurately tests at 28% THC-A.

          What I am saying, however, if that someone claims the flower is 28% THC - is incorrect. Flowers rarely (if ever) test above 1% THC- the cannabinoids of non-decarboxylated flowers should always be expressed in terms of THC-A. If anyone tells you their flowers are 28% THC, they don't understand their results, or are lying to sell you something. 25% THC-A is not the same as 25% THC.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Chimera View Post
            Nope, not saying anything about rb26. What I said exactly is quoted in your post above - let's not make it more than it is.

            That said, any results are only as good as the lab that analyzes the flowers. Some labs (especially in WA) test high; this is not the purpose of a lab- the purpose of a lab is to accurately quantify the compounds present within a flower or extract.

            There is a mistaken belief that the "strongest" or most "potent" pot is the pot with the highest THC concentration. This isn't the case, a 20% THC flower with the right terpene complement can be perceived as "stronger" than a flower that accurately tests at 28% THC-A.

            What I am saying, however, if that someone claims the flower is 28% THC - is incorrect. Flowers rarely (if ever) test above 1% THC- the cannabinoids of non-decarboxylated flowers should always be expressed in terms of THC-A. If anyone tells you their flowers are 28% THC, they don't understand their results, or are lying to sell you something. 25% THC-A is not the same as 25% THC.
            Ok so you didnt say anything about rb26, i did. What you said does make what rb26 was saying wrong. You broke it down exactly why all that hoopla was wrong. Sorry i didnt put the question across just right for you next time i have a question ill spend a few days and nights pondering how to word it for you.

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              #21
              Ok. Is 26%=26% of total cannabinoids or is 26% of total bud weight?
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                #22
                Originally posted by OG Expressions View Post
                Why are all the different strains posted in colours i dont think labs do that for test results. Kind of silly.

                MTF is a myth i talked to a dude who has lived in that area for 40 years and said people in the area started passing around the myth of some amazing cut that didnt even exsist. Its elusive because its not real dont feel bad you didnt have something thats nonsense. Lol idk how a cut thats not real hit 32%
                Mtf was a outdoor seed strain acclimatized to the climate and produced in almost 24hrs of light through the summer. the matunuska-susitna valley is renowned for its incredible agriculture because of the long days and fertile valley,and personal weed was legal in alaska till the 90's so the outdoor flourished in mat-su valley and thunderfuck was real budz, it takes somthing special to bud nice in 24hr light and finish for the early frost.

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                  #23
                  I have learned that thc% means nothing, I get the highest from landrace sativas and I don't think I seen one over 20%.

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                    #24
                    Aren't these testing companies seen as bullshit anyhow? Aren't they considered basically a pay to play scheme? 1/3+ of total plant weight being thc? That is mind blowing
                    #CannavoreDoesntDeserveBanhamm er

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                      #25
                      I thought maybe it was based on total cannabinoid content, but that can't be right because what would make up the difference.
                      I think u guys are probably right. It's just a marketing campaign. The worst part is that at the time that most growers are trying to have crops based on science and not wives tales, legend, or voodoo They produce iffy numbers under the guise of 'lab report".
                      "I have only read fragments of your posts. But I have read enough to know that you can grow some mean herb."
                      --- CVH
                      _____________________________
                      "we growing.
                      till the fucking zombies show."
                      --- Useless.Gardens

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Anothermeduser View Post
                        Mtf was a outdoor seed strain acclimatized to the climate and produced in almost 24hrs of light through the summer. the matunuska-susitna valley is renowned for its incredible agriculture because of the long days and fertile valley,and personal weed was legal in alaska till the 90's so the outdoor flourished in mat-su valley and thunderfuck was real budz, it takes somthing special to bud nice in 24hr light and finish for the early frost.
                        You are the first person to call that myth a auto... why not add more misinformation on top on misinformation. What is the point of trying to prove something does exsist when it dont... do you also claim the bigfoot exsists too?

                        I know someone who has been in that area since 1964 growing i think he might know a bit more about that topic than you. Ill take his word when he says its not real. He was there and is still there, he told me strait up it was a bunch of bullshit so people could hype their weed nothing more... kind of like how the last decade kids in canada been calling good weed "Kush" like its a grade or something...

                        I like your touch about "it takes something nice to finish in 24 hour light" lol those are called autos. Also autos are not special nothing about them special. LOL i like how you say its seed everyone else says its a cut... its all a bunch of nonsense perpetuated by smokers who know nothing but think they cam teach the growers with 10, 20, 30, 50, or even 50 years experience in the matter. You can refute it all you want but the fact remains MTF is nonsense that has never exsisted anyone breeding with it or claiming to have it is a lier or was given them some random shit by someone lying to them about what it is.

                        I did get a good laugh out of your post though. I would think a guy who has been in that area probably lomger than your parents have been alive would know more on the matter. I chose him to ask because hes been there so long and i coukd trust he woukd know 100% without a doubt...

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by OG Expressions View Post
                          You are the first person to call that myth a auto... why not add more misinformation on top on misinformation. What is the point of trying to prove something does exsist when it dont... do you also claim the bigfoot exsists too?

                          I know someone who has been in that area since 1964 growing i think he might know a bit more about that topic than you. Ill take his word when he says its not real. He was there and is still there, he told me strait up it was a bunch of bullshit so people could hype their weed nothing more... kind of like how the last decade kids in canada been calling good weed "Kush" like its a grade or something...

                          I like your touch about "it takes something nice to finish in 24 hour light" lol those are called autos. Also autos are not special nothing about them special. LOL i like how you say its seed everyone else says its a cut... its all a bunch of nonsense perpetuated by smokers who know nothing but think they cam teach the growers with 10, 20, 30, 50, or even 50 years experience in the matter. You can refute it all you want but the fact remains MTF is nonsense that has never exsisted anyone breeding with it or claiming to have it is a lier or was given them some random shit by someone lying to them about what it is.

                          I did get a good laugh out of your post though. I would think a guy who has been in that area probably lomger than your parents have been alive would know more on the matter. I chose him to ask because hes been there so long and i coukd trust he woukd know 100% without a doubt...
                          Dude 40 yrs ago I lived in the mat-su valley, for a considerable time. what i said is first hand knowledge. Think what you want I dont care. Spread the 2nd hand misinformation like a know it all kid.. ill just sit enjoy the shower of knowledge coming from you then.

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                            #28
                            All these test numbers are b.s. because there is no standardized method. The lab that creates the legal standard is going to make a killing.
                            Grow thread.
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....04#post7552204

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                              #29
                              When did a number become quality? Don't buy into the hype and bullshit people. You want to be the winner with numbers? , GO DO HEROIN !!!

                              You're the winner you big loser...

                              Find a provider of true organically sun grown cannabis. I suggest Highland Nepalese from Blue Hemp, Seed Heaven carries it, or learn how to grow your own plants.
                              Be your own dog not a follower! Demand quality don't settle for perceived popularity. There's nothing cool about poorly grown cannabis with an exaggerated number stuck to it!
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                                #30
                                Teh, Whenever numbers like that pop up on for sale menus I get suspicious.
                                Not that I don't believe that these guys sell outstanding herb, it's just I have seen it so many times. And that's ok, a +30% count of THC never fails to turn heads, but to take it out of the marketing realm, a second independent lab analysis is needed.

                                Easy task, yet something virtually nobody does it, hence the suspicion it could be a marketing stunt only...
                                Anyways, a tasty menu ;-)
                                All the best,
                                CC

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