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    Originally posted by Greasy Glands View Post
    Thanks alot man! 12-16 Weeks is what the breeders recommend
    You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
    Pretty long time to me.
    WOW, a thousand page thread, that''ll keep a fellar busy reading for awhile.
    .
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but welcome to the future.
    I use Quantum Board led lights that pull 150 watts at the wall and they generate much more light and much less heat than a 150 watt hps ever thought about.
    I've given away all my old energy hog H.I.D. Lights and am loving life the way these new fangled lights perform.
    Again, I do welcome you to the future.
    But an old saying does come to mind though,
    Smoke em if you got em.

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      I have made the switch from 150w hps to 100w DIY L.E.D.. Having great results with the new tech, but I sure learned a lot from this thread thanks to all of the 150 watters for all of the help over the years!
      Attached Files
      Hammerhead's Flashbang- C x Firestorm #18 test grow

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        Long time without posting ... I share some photos of the current grow. I think maybe one more week would be enough.

        About the setup, I work with a 40x40x60cms (wxdxh) cabinet with a 150w HPS, passive intake and a 4 inch active extraction.

        PQC
        Attached Files
        Micro Indoor Scrog 70w
        White Satin 70w

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          Nice cabinet and plants, Pan! What strains are you running? My 150w flip-flop cab paid all of my bills and kept me high for over 10 years
          Hammerhead's Flashbang- C x Firestorm #18 test grow

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            Originally posted by OrgAeroMan View Post
            Nice cabinet and plants, Pan! What strains are you running? My 150w flip-flop cab paid all of my bills and kept me high for over 10 years
            Thanks OrgAeroMan!

            Today i'm running a Skunk 1 (sensi seeds) 1st pic, master kush (dutch passion) 2nd pic, and a dutch kush (paradise seeds) 3rd pic.

            However the cabinet it's been with me the last 10 years!

            PQC
            Micro Indoor Scrog 70w
            White Satin 70w

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              Nice, great strain selection. Did you get a skunky skunk #1 or fruity? I miss the old, straight skunk piss smells. I guess they are getting harder to track down now.
              Hammerhead's Flashbang- C x Firestorm #18 test grow

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                Originally posted by OrgAeroMan View Post
                Nice, great strain selection. Did you get a skunky skunk #1 or fruity? I miss the old, straight skunk piss smells. I guess they are getting harder to track down now.
                The fruity one unfortunately but with sugary buds

                PCQ
                Micro Indoor Scrog 70w
                White Satin 70w

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                  Those look nicely faded, great job man!
                  Hammerhead's Flashbang- C x Firestorm #18 test grow

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                    I was cleaning out some old junk making room for new junk and I found this. It was my first "real" HID light. My buddy gave it to me. I was only using small fluoros and screw in CFLs.
                    "I have only read fragments of your posts. But I have read enough to know that you can grow some mean herb."
                    --- CVH
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                    till the fucking zombies show."
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                    My current thread

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                      I have a 150w choke in my scrap pile. I should have a number of new (internal ignitor) lamps for it somewhere to. Certainly a lamp holder. So if anyone local wants it I can put it out in a box somewhere. Postage will cost me too much. It's sat about for years so It's not going anywhere. Same story with a 250 a 400 and a 600 or even quite a few.

                      Actually I might post the 150 but would need a diary post in return

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                        Just a little bump to keep the thread active.

                        Still running the 150. I gave some serious thought to the new LEDs, but I’m just not convinced that there is much to gain for my method of growing. Besides the cabinet now lives in an unheated garage and the ballast and light combo is my heat source in cold weather. If I went LED I’d either have to put in supplemental heat and foot the electric bill, or only grow in warm weather. I’ve been growing this way for many, many, years so why fuck with something that works well and is fairly simple?

                        Stay safe and healthy people.

                        😎

                        "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"

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                          Thing is, a 150 gives 100 lumen per watt, while a top HID offers 150 lumen per watt. That 150 lumen is seen as 1.7umol/j so you wouldn't be far off ballparking the 150w light at 1.2umol/j

                          Now that thrashes the 0.65umol/j measured from the worst of the smart cobs. However 100w of (14w=100w) household lamps will offer about as much PAR light and while messy, there are gains in even coverage that amount to a great deal. This spelled the end for us 150 growers.

                          I still have mine but even my local shop just hangs LED's now. It's nice to see them used still but perhaps burning 150w of household lamps will give you about as much heat (though directly into the air not radiant heat that warms what it falls upon) while giving a 50% increase in ppfd. Bud is just air and light (and maybe 10% food) so that might be good reason to change, or might be just a pointless learning curve as you are happy.

                          I'm happy to give mine away to see it used again, but I can't imagine anybody setting up with a 150 now.


                          I don't like to be down on them, but in the back of my mind, burning 150w for 100w of light just isn't helping anybody.

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