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    Teflon© Bag Collection Tek, No scraping

    This was a thread before but it got corrupted so Ive redone it cause I keep getting PMs about it. Thanks everyone.

    So whatever technique you use to make your BHO, or hexane extraction, or QWISO, you end up with your hashoil/solvent mix in this 5 mil teflon specimen bag. You blow the butane through the tube directly into the bag for evaporating and purging.

    This is BHO from my honeypot bho system. It looks like this after it has vacuum purged for a day in the bag. You do have to purge it to get it to eventually be hard, you can also put the bag and oil in a warm water bath or on a heating pad. QWISO takes a lot longer to purge for me.



    Then you put the Teflon© bag into a regular ziploc, then put them in the freezer. Once cold, just a little crushing with your fingers through the bag, and its like peanut brittle and doesnt stick to the bag.



    but I used this opener to roll over it and it turned to powder, and poured freely into my container that was also cold.



    And after it warms back up. 9.5 grams here.



    The best sources for teflon bags seem to be this one, but you can find small ones on ebay, they use them for cooking.http://www.welchfluorocarbon.com/Tef...ayFlatBags.htm

    Also, note that genkisan, in a previous thread on the issue, had posted this statement "If ANY Teflon gets into your mix, even a tiny particle you cannot really see, it WILL KILL YOU" and with that note strewn in my original thread, I killed it cause I was pissed off. What genkisan was referring to, is that if you burn teflon at high temperatures, it gives off toxic fumes. Fair enough. But by the same token, if you burn the plastic that ziploc bags are made of, it gives off toxic fumes yet you don't think twice about putting your pot or hash in a ziploc. So.... don't smoke the teflon.
    Last edited by foaf; 02-14-2007, 00:30.
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    #2
    looks good, but what is vaccuum purging and how does it work?

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      #3
      purging, in general, is getting your solvent out of the oil. you can do it with heat, or just time and fresh air exposure, or if you have a setup of some type and can put the fresh oil under a vacuum, you can vacuum purge. Ive been making oil using a closed system with all sorts of unnecessary parts and complexities and a vacuum pump (see honeypot link above). But Ive heard of at least one person who made a vacuum purge system out of a pressure cooker pot, a little mini irrigation valve, and a water bed aspirator system to make a vacuum.

      so vacuum purging is just putting your oil in a vacuum environment to hasten the removal of the solvent.
      my closed butane hashoil system - the honey pot
      collecting bho with a teflon bag - a simple DIY vacuum chamber
      4 lb tree in a 3 x 4 space - Bubba Tree - SSH Tree - Aero Nevilles Haze Tree - LED Sativa Tree - White Russian Tree
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        #4
        Nice foaf!
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          #5
          I wondered where that thread went. I need to get me more bags. Got a harvest coming up around xmas time, and am in need of some sweet, sweet BHO.
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            #6
            Nice thread.

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              #7
              Originally posted by foaf
              Also, note that genkisan, in a previous thread on the issue, had posted this statement "If ANY Teflon gets into your mix, even a tiny particle you cannot really see, it WILL KILL YOU" and with that note strewn in my original thread, I killed it cause I was pissed off. What genkisan was referring to, is that if you burn teflon at high temperatures, it gives off toxic fumes. Fair enough. But by the same token, if you burn the plastic that ziploc bags are made of, it gives off toxic fumes yet you don't think twice about putting your pot or hash in a ziploc. So.... don't smoke the teflon.

              Very informative, good job - but the quoted part above made me laugh my balls off


              The fumes from heated aluminum have been linked to Alzheimer's, but who here hasnt smoked out of a altered soda can and one point or another, or who hasnt smoked some oil off a piece of tinfoil in a pinch?

              Ahh, the paranoia of some people is quite funny. Did you know that Dihydrogen Monoxide has been found in every form of cancer and in every single tumor? Excessive contact will cause your flesh you fall off, and A overdose on it, will result in a very painful death if not treated almost immediately. And the scariest part? Its EVERYWHERE! We are exposed to it every single day! TONS OF IT!!!































              For the fucktards that havent figured it out yet.. dihydrogen monoxide is water, plain and simple h20. Lots of things *CAN* kill you or cause your body harm. Know what you are working with and work Smart and Safe - if you are incapable of that, then put down the pipe and get back to your Linkin' Logs and Legos
              Last edited by KnottyDollar; 05-02-2008, 06:07.

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                #8
                That's an interesting idea. I usually freeze the oil in a ceramic bowl, and it has the same effect. Much easier to collect that way.

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                  #9
                  GREAT Idea !! And I am certainly gonna give it a shot.

                  However, this begs the question: Why can't I use a Teflon baking pan?? (and put that in the freezer instead).

                  It is thin enough to twist and break the resin off without scraping with a blade I would imagine.

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                    #10
                    that will work fine, just like EasyBake does it. You dont even really need any teflon, the freezing is helpful with glass, when you scrape you get solids flaking up instead of goo. But with the teflon bag you can also crumble it into a hard powder and pour it out to containers, or now I divide it up into tiny small teflon baggies to store and distribute with.
                    my closed butane hashoil system - the honey pot
                    collecting bho with a teflon bag - a simple DIY vacuum chamber
                    4 lb tree in a 3 x 4 space - Bubba Tree - SSH Tree - Aero Nevilles Haze Tree - LED Sativa Tree - White Russian Tree
                    mescaline? - Scrub your exhaust with cheap ozone

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                      #11
                      i don't see why you would freeze instead of properly purgin.
                      Last edited by Woody Creek; 05-12-2008, 10:51.

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                        #12
                        im confused a bit - can u just take it fromj the dish (bho method) that you have extracted into and heat that and pour it into teflon? or what???
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                          #13
                          you can - there are a bunch of ways to mess with it.

                          but the benefit of the teflon bag is that teflon is solvent resistant so you can just blow the butane/hashoil right into the bag and let it evaporate there and purge there. Then you can chill it, it gets hard, and crush is up, and pour the solid dust into your container.

                          the only problem with casserole dishes, especially if you are doing a lot, i that its a mess, it sticks to the razors, it sticks to your hands, and then its hard to transfer into the container you plan to store it in. its really nice to get casserole dishes out of the loop, for me.
                          my closed butane hashoil system - the honey pot
                          collecting bho with a teflon bag - a simple DIY vacuum chamber
                          4 lb tree in a 3 x 4 space - Bubba Tree - SSH Tree - Aero Nevilles Haze Tree - LED Sativa Tree - White Russian Tree
                          mescaline? - Scrub your exhaust with cheap ozone

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by foaf
                            you can - there are a bunch of ways to mess with it.

                            but the benefit of the teflon bag is that teflon is solvent resistant so you can just blow the butane/hashoil right into the bag and let it evaporate there and purge there. Then you can chill it, it gets hard, and crush is up, and pour the solid dust into your container.

                            the only problem with casserole dishes, especially if you are doing a lot, i that its a mess, it sticks to the razors, it sticks to your hands, and then its hard to transfer into the container you plan to store it in. its really nice to get casserole dishes out of the loop, for me.

                            hehh...yeah casserole dishes are a pain - my beautiful girlfriend HATES it - she cant stand gettin all sticky and what not - thanx for ur input = im thinkin bout tryin your closed bho method - good job on the design!!!
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                              #15
                              k+ what a great idea.

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