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  • Gray Wolf
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    Originally posted by maryjaneismyfre View Post
    For sure, I could go into a 4 day weed coma and come out kicking, with my tolerance it might take more than 60g ! But..for the average joe, I have some folk with cancer who are conservative folks who are scared to eat a drop of strong activated oil unless before bed and even then I've had a few patients give up on the meds very soon after as they could not handle the psychoactivity and they fell quickly to the disease. I had one patient, family of a conservative pharmacist who got the oil from me, donated, who accused me of trying to poison her! After getting properly stoned on her first tiny dose of very clean and well made oil, activated and winterised and 50/50 with coconut oil to make it viscous. The pharmacist gave me words and I gave them back as the oil was donated at my cost, and I go to great lengths to make a clean product and can extract countless plants to a very high purity with minimal equipment and just with experience and old-school technique, and the end of the day he should be the one to be making it for society in a laboratory, if I could so would I.. but that is the failing of modern medicine. In the old days, prior to the 30's it was their job. In those days it was part of your course work as well as glass-blowing etc. I have the old coursework manuals to prove it. A qualified pharmacist would have to do his finals on all the glassware he had blown over his career of study. We have lost all that knowledge, experience and culture..anyways..here I am..I have one old guy, bless his heart, such a genuine od chap..Lost his wife already after a long fight, he is a convert already onto the oil and medicinal mushrooms. His wife never took the mushrooms as her doc was scared of her low blood pressure, but the oil brought her back from the brink and made the tumor disappear from a tennis ball size to a pea size and she almost made it...until after 2 years after predicted to be dead, and in seemingly good health, the tumor just started growing back and less than 2 months later she was gone. Heart-breaking but a common story.

    I really want to help her husband but he problem with these folk is just the smallest dose hits em real bad. I reckon to go non-activated, I'll try with the next batch, and not winterize it or anything, just leave it to stand for ages to turn to shatter, and then coconut oil it, and use no heat at..no vac purging equipment here in the bush! haha

    The above story and others like it is why I am so adamant on here that folks must chemo-therapy themselves with reishi mushroom and friends. I know of folk that have beaten their cancer with just change of diet, positive thought, reishi and smoking and vaping as much good weed as they could get their hands on?! The mushrooms and diet were the catalyst there i'm pretty sure.
    Dr Melemede recommends dosing the patient with citicolene, at three X the oil dose, twenty minutes before hand, to reduce psychoactive effects. We've used that for a few years now, and it seems to help.

    Increased levels of CBD also seem to mollify the THC psychoactive effects.

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  • Scrappy-doo
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    This might be an odd question but has anyone tried combining concentrates with dmso? Been reading about dmso for something unrelated but just curious.

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  • maryjaneismyfre
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    For sure, I could go into a 4 day weed coma and come out kicking, with my tolerance it might take more than 60g ! But..for the average joe, I have some folk with cancer who are conservative folks who are scared to eat a drop of strong activated oil unless before bed and even then I've had a few patients give up on the meds very soon after as they could not handle the psychoactivity and they fell quickly to the disease. I had one patient, family of a conservative pharmacist who got the oil from me, donated, who accused me of trying to poison her! After getting properly stoned on her first tiny dose of very clean and well made oil, activated and winterised and 50/50 with coconut oil to make it viscous. The pharmacist gave me words and I gave them back as the oil was donated at my cost, and I go to great lengths to make a clean product and can extract countless plants to a very high purity with minimal equipment and just with experience and old-school technique, and the end of the day he should be the one to be making it for society in a laboratory, if I could so would I.. but that is the failing of modern medicine. In the old days, prior to the 30's it was their job. In those days it was part of your course work as well as glass-blowing etc. I have the old coursework manuals to prove it. A qualified pharmacist would have to do his finals on all the glassware he had blown over his career of study. We have lost all that knowledge, experience and culture..anyways..here I am..I have one old guy, bless his heart, such a genuine od chap..Lost his wife already after a long fight, he is a convert already onto the oil and medicinal mushrooms. His wife never took the mushrooms as her doc was scared of her low blood pressure, but the oil brought her back from the brink and made the tumor disappear from a tennis ball size to a pea size and she almost made it...until after 2 years after predicted to be dead, and in seemingly good health, the tumor just started growing back and less than 2 months later she was gone. Heart-breaking but a common story.

    I really want to help her husband but he problem with these folk is just the smallest dose hits em real bad. I reckon to go non-activated, I'll try with the next batch, and not winterize it or anything, just leave it to stand for ages to turn to shatter, and then coconut oil it, and use no heat at..no vac purging equipment here in the bush! haha

    The above story and others like it is why I am so adamant on here that folks must chemo-therapy themselves with reishi mushroom and friends. I know of folk that have beaten their cancer with just change of diet, positive thought, reishi and smoking and vaping as much good weed as they could get their hands on?! The mushrooms and diet were the catalyst there i'm pretty sure.

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  • LostTribe
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    Originally posted by maryjaneismyfre View Post
    Also wondering..if the effect is the same, is it not better to NOT decarb, so the patient could megadose without feeling all bunged-out? The high is counter-productive for mega dosed I reckon, it stops non-stoners from getting to the doses needed as they are scared of getting all F-ed up.
    Dr Robert Melamede's friend with AIDS took a 60 gram dosage of activated, decarbed oil and went into a weed comatose for 4 days and was fine afterwards. His lesions started falling off!

    Thats in the hash church video.

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  • maryjaneismyfre
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    Also wondering..if the effect is the same, is it not better to NOT decarb, so the patient could megadose without feeling all bunged-out? The high is counter-productive for mega dosed I reckon, it stops non-stoners from getting to the doses needed as they are scared of getting all F-ed up.

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  • LostTribe
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    I have what seems to me a very important question for individuals treating themselves.

    Anyone have any research on non-activated vs. activated (i.e. decarboxylated) oil relating to killing cancerous cells?

    I have been thinking that the heating of cannabinoids may affect them either for the good or bad with respect to the ability to fight cancerous cells.

    Obviously the activated, decarbed oils would produce a body high and help with pain relief and nausea. Wondering if the effects on cells remains the same after decarboxylation??

    Any info available on this??
    LT

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  • SkyHighLer
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    ^ The problem that occurs is how to clear the solvent from the material quickly and thoroughly with much more finesse than squeezing it in a press of some sort, or vacuuming it in a Buchner funnel type of device, or maybe even a combination of the two, a weighted plate on top of the material in a huge Coors Buchner.

    Caution, you do this it's your ass. Fume hood or actual equivalent (not a garage with a fan,) or outside in the middle of your back forty if you were so blessed.

    You simply acquire one of the most popular, simple, robust juicers ever produced, an old Acme 6001 or the new Waring Commercial replacement, or the nearly identical Omega 1000.

    The motor is induction, and runs cool, just tape the switch in the on position, there's an interlock switch shown in the Acme manual, realize it's there and avoid tripping it, or bypass it. If you want to slow it down, or switch it on and off, plug it into a remote switch or Variac, and seal the switch or Variac off from solvent fumes in a clear plastic bag.

    That said, you just run the dry herb through the machine like you would vegetables or fruit, they sell filter strips to line the stainless steel basket for cheap. And then spray liquid butane into the juicer opening, collecting the solvent/oil in a Pyrex evaporating dish or whatever, followed by a secondary solvent squirt, draining into a second dish. Instead of ethanol other secondary solvents could be used, that's been discussed previously as to toxicity versus purge difficulty.


    I've presented the idea previously in more detail, with many options starting at post #143 here,

    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....01#post7639216


    Post apocalypse there won't be much butane or ethanol, hit it with the 'tane, hit it with the 'shine. Good times and meds too.
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  • SkyHighLer
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    Originally posted by Gray Wolf View Post
    You lose the waxes which are ostensibly inert inactive ingredients, plus monoterpenes, which all have their own medical properties, and as noted, contribute to the entourage effect.

    You would get the same effect extracting with alcohol, because the loss of course occurs during alcohol removal.

    The question then becomes one of perspective, changing the question to whether it removes enough to make the medication less effective, and we have routinely winterized since we've been making Holy Anointing Oil and Holy Shit, both which have their following and record of success, so it doesn't make it ineffective.

    Except for the fan leaves, stems, and roots, we extract guts, feathers, and all that is left, all together.

    That leaves open the question of just what the optimum levels are, and what would be best, which I leave to the professionals!

    Interesting finding after a series of bummers (two days of trying to recalibrate my stock pot vac chamber with home brew PID controller and it seems to be just the thermocouple, substituted the Dork DSV and back to bliss, and then... the extremely low yield from what I thought was a reputable walk in dispensary's nuggs, and to top off the experience, this crazy ass ethanol goop, which at the end of purge drives my pump into some sort of overheat or something spewing fog throughout the house!)


    So I have discovered for lack of a better word, "Flubber." It is the pristine separated fraction composed of a 100% ethanol dried flower top soak minus the components of a BHO soak.

    It's really, really refined crap.

    I soaked in butane, poured off through a 2.5 micron filter to an evaporating dish, added room temp ethanol to the Mason jar for a second soak, and let it slowly drain off through another 2.5 micron filter paper to a second evaporating dish.

    The BHO was vac purged at 115F down to the 20,000 micron level until it wasn't showing much reaction, less than an hour. Btw, it was poured off through filter paper screwed under the jar lid when the butane was reading 10F on the side of the jar, up from as I recall 20 degrees lower five minutes before at the beginning of the soak.


    The ethanol extract was evaporated in a ceramic Corning Ware dish with a filtered, three inch computer fan causing it to ripple gently in the wash, while underneath bringing comforting warmth was a silicone heater controlled by a Variac. The boil off temp was maintained at ~70-75F, and at the very end before going in the vacuum chamber I raised it to ~95F because the dish wasn't going to get much heat conductance from the bottom of the vac pot. So, I vacuumed it in the dish, then scrapped to parchment paper, and then vacuumed it until it was dead at 115F, vacuumed all the way down, repeatedly. No odor of alcohol, I didn't know you could purge alcohol so completely and easily, anyway it passes my level of subjective scrutiny as regards residual solvent.


    Two products from a deep wash of whole cannabis tops.


    Two odd findings, other than it's surprising there was any THC left to extract, the half ounce had been stored in a zip bag in a Mason jar in my closet for over two years!

    1) The BHO produced the usual mild choke mechanism, good stuff!

    But not the black crap (actually held up to bright light can be seen just between thin amber color and 'the blackness,' a red, a might purdy red. Good ole red... dabbed he, she, it up and wtf, no choke response. Period. Flies in your face.




    2) The black "Flubber" is very psychoactive, it produces an immediate change in consciousness when dabbed, rather than try to express it even subjectively, may I suggest goths will love it.


    Pictured:

    The round jar has the black ethanol soak goop.

    On parchment is the BHO first soak, and on anther parchment is a small chuck my solid glass Durbin Poison BHO.

    Guild 99.9...% THC-A crystals

    I'm dabbing at 710F because the black goop is, well goop, and hits better at a higher temp. And even though I fine filtered it, it leaves a wee bit of 'carbon' on the soldering iron tip, but really not too bad, I'm probably going dab it until it's gone, no cough or anything like that...


    Wit' all this talk of cannabis shake your booty in patent leather pumps, maybe I should patent the process, one of the broad claims might be as a pre-procedural tranquilizer. Produces sustained calm with mild dissociation, vapable for those that need instant relief.


    So for those who are looking for natural relief, there're seem to be some components in selective processing that are very much a part of the voodoo mix, and who do dare mess wit' it? In that, Rick Simpson is a rad genius. (Just use a better solvent than naphtha/Coleman fuel!)
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  • Dog Star
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    I like this interview with Rick,lot of good info...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lub4k4Vk5YQ

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  • LostTribe
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    I just want to say that Dr. Robert Melamede blew me away with those stories this guy is so for real!

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  • Stash
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    This is a great thread. I'm going to follow. Thank you all, Later,Stash

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  • LostTribe
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    At 1hr16 they start talking about hyper dosing. A gentleman with colorectal cancer began taking 1/8 of a cup of non activated oil for 42 days and all of it went away!

    Dr. Bob is the shit! talked about people shitting out colon cancer and coughing up lung cancer!

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  • LostTribe
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    I watched the hash church with dr bob and its great. everyone should check it out. He has a great story about his friend with aids. The Dude with the 60 gram dose of oil that went canna comatose for 3 days and woke up to find all of his aids related lesions falling off. He hadn't taken oil in 2 weeks on a trip and when he got back the lesions had returned. A lot of great interesting info in that video.

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  • maryjaneismyfre
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    Originally posted by LostTribe View Post
    What issues did the medishrooms aide you with?
    I had asymtomatic TB, 6 months of bloodtests, which weren't picking it up but showing something was seriously up and round after round of anti-biotics and more tests and I was just getting weaker and weaker and the docs didn't know what was going on..Till I could barely walk I had lost so much muscle mass, I crawled up the mountain to where I knew there was a dead oak with turkey tails growing on it, I figured F the docs I must trust my own knowledge..I could feel I was close to the edge.. Low and behold there were 3 reishi's growing out of the ground around it obviously living on the dead roots below..So I picked them and the turkey tails and drank tea of that and the shiitake 3 times a day for the next 2 weeks and put on 10kg and felt alive again, which I had forgotten what it felt like.. My skin had colour again and was not a pale grey and I went for a surf..which i hadn't done in months.

    Where I picked up a thrush infection from the water and the shit started eating my skin, that's when the docs thought I had ebola or something, but my immune system was just so weak by now, and quarantined me in the whole wing of the local hospital by myself until they figured out what was wrong. Thank god a nurse said, give him a chest xray..should have done that months prior but anyway.. I reckon if I didn't keep myself alive with those fungi, I would have kicked the bucket weeks before. I was down to 40-45kg in mass, 2 weeks of the tea killed the TB enough to stop it eating my muscles and give me an appetite again that I was about 55kg when I was finally admitted.. I normally weigh 80-85kg..

    Sheesh since then I've tried to tell everyone and anyone about them, since their use goes much deeper and their chemistry is unparalleled in nature aside from the other useful fungi. I've seen them cure/help in yuppie flu/chronic fatigue symdrome, lupis, heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer, colds and flus, severe injury and post operative healing, athletes foot, psoriasis, diabetes, general health, protozoa infection- tick fever, etc, snake bites, auto-immune disorders, hyper-active histamine systems, liver failure, cancer, cancer and cancer..and also any viral/fungal/bacterial dis-ease, from athletes foot to eating oysters that were not as fresh as advertised. They reset the insulin system so blood sugar doesn't go up and down and fix your gut bacteria who help make serotonin so after a while of use your mood really permanently elevates too. They help chelate heavy metals and toxins and then your liver/kidneys are able to easier flush em. They calm an over-active immune system, containing non-toxic but potent anti-histamines but also fire up a dormant immune system and kick up t-cell production. I don't get colds and flu's anymore, I cannot remember the last one, it was a few winters ago. 2 weeks ago a mates dad nearly angle-ground off two fingers, had the one re-attached and a few stitches later and we got him onto the reishi tea and reishi vodka shots. It took about 3 days and he was back on the rocks alone with a gaff trying for gamefish, I wouldn't, but 2 weeks later he is going to sea catching 200lb tunas..mad fucker but yeah the reishi makes one heal very quickly, quicker than most thought were possible.

    I've seen a mates dog that was bitten by a cobra on the heart and found 2-3 hours later, under an old metal roof sheet where it crawled up to die..After syringing 20ml of reishi tea into the dogs throat (maybe was more), I saw that dog come back to life in about half an hour.. First the colour came back, as the blood started flowing again, within 20 mins the eyes started responding and maybe 10 mins later the thing was back with us in the land of the living..The next day it was a bit hungover but able to walk and made a full recovery in the week.

    Ja the reishi..it is the king of adaptogens. But there are a whole bunch of mushrooms with similar properties, and they are best taken as a multi-species extract. In addition there are water soluble actives, and the phytosterols (as powerful as cortisone) are alcohol soluble so dual extracts are the most effective as most of these mushrooms are as tough as wood and difficult to process or consume. Though when it comes to cancer most, if not all, edibles are anti-cancer. Some like the reishi are not really edible as they are so tough and bitter, but they are the most anti-cancer. That said, even your lowly button mushroom has compounds that for example inhibit breast cancer..

    In fact I am now dealing with damping off, pythium/fusarium, loosing seedlings left, right and centre..I'm just holding it at bay with h2o2 but I think I'll brew up some reishi tea and try spray em with that, why not..It's gotta help, anti-biotics, phyto-sterols etc..yeah I must trust what I know..edit..I'm not surprised, but it stopped the "damping off" in its tracks, now to just nurse the survivors..
    Last edited by maryjaneismyfre; 11-11-2016, 09:09. Reason: update on spray..

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  • LostTribe
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    Originally posted by blastfrompast View Post
    1hour 7minutes...

    talking about herpies (the purple patches of skin HIV sufferers get)..
    Thanks I will check it out now!

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