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    Originally posted by Dog Star View Post
    Wanted to ask how you mix coconut oil and BHO concetrate??

    Is that possible or you use other kind of concetrate to mix with coco oil?
    I have read that for super potent coconut oil you first heat the coconut oil in the microwave or on the stove until it is at 200 degrees and then melt your bho into it without vaporizing it with a torch on low. Someone said they heat it for 2 hours at 200 in the oven in a pyrex but I believe it only needs to get to around 200 degrees for it to work. Anyone else know?

    Actually I would just make this holy anointing oil and call it good!
    https://skunkpharmresearch.com/holy-...and-holy-shit/
    LostTribe

    C99 The Ultimate Search and Rescue Mission
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=334331

    Treating Cancer with Concentrates
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=301121

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      Originally posted by Gray Wolf View Post
      Dr Robert Melamede says that what we are doing is flooding the endocannabinoid system with phytocannabinoids to help jump start it. We've used any number of strains with good success, and strain doesn't seem tremendously important.

      I haven't kept overall track, but I know that the first two colon cancer patients we treated, the tumors disappeared in one and it was reduced to the size of a pea in another, which they removed.

      We supplied both sublingual and suppositories. We bought disposable suppository molds on line and cut the concentrate with coco butter.
      It was mentioned to me that some company out of the Netherlands made some time-release pills, with raw cannibanoids (not sure if in the synthesized or bioavailable form) were dissolved in CO2, encapsulated. Could this perhaps be a more effective administration - as well as being less subjectively strange, depending on the patient - than the butter/oil suppositories?

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        Originally posted by LostTribe View Post
        I have read that for super potent coconut oil you first heat the coconut oil in the microwave or on the stove until it is at 200 degrees and then melt your bho into it without vaporizing it with a torch on low. Someone said they heat it for 2 hours at 200 in the oven in a pyrex but I believe it only needs to get to around 200 degrees for it to work. Anyone else know?

        Actually I would just make this holy anointing oil and call it good!
        https://skunkpharmresearch.com/holy-...and-holy-shit/
        No need to "melt" the BHO with a torch. Simply heat it as well and viscosity lowers enough to pour. I usually decarboxylate my BHO, monitoring temperature with an IR gun and the CO2 off-gas visually; And when I'm ready to mix, I simply pour in the oil. You can preheat the oil to 180-200F like you mentioned to dissolve faster, but with the BHO so hot and oil quickly heating, it should dissolve easily anyways.

        Heating for 2 hours probably refers to decarboxylating the oil (making it orally active). SkunkPharm has a very descriptive page on it, but you can literally see enormous CO2 bubbles boil off, which is the decarboxylation process.

        Some have questioned the available charts (like SkunkPharm's) regarding the degradation rate of THC to CBN. I know several visually fully decarboxylated oils not show nearly the amount of CBN as graphs would suggest, according to various lab test results. I don't know how quality the labs are.

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          Originally posted by Dog Star View Post
          Wanted to ask how you mix coconut oil and BHO concetrate??

          Is that possible or you use other kind of concetrate to mix with coco oil?
          It couldn't be easier. Just heat them both up until they are liquid and they will mix together at any ratios. Like alcohol and water.

          Since I usually mix mine right after decarboxylating at 250F, I just add the other ingredients as it cools down.

          I can do that because I know the tare of my bain marie pot, and just wipe the hot oil off the outside and weigh the whole thing.

          By subtracting the tare, I can compute how much of the other ingredients to add.
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          Fervor is the weapon of the impotent. The harder the sell, the poorer the product.

          Alas, my ignorance abounds; the more I've learned, the less I know that I know..........

          Thou shalt seek and respect the opinions of operators, even unto the third helper, for theirs is a wisdom unknown to technicrats.

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            Originally posted by Old Gold View Post
            It was mentioned to me that some company out of the Netherlands made some time-release pills, with raw cannibanoids (not sure if in the synthesized or bioavailable form) were dissolved in CO2, encapsulated. Could this perhaps be a more effective administration - as well as being less subjectively strange, depending on the patient - than the butter/oil suppositories?
            I tried the suppository, before subjecting a patient to it, and for the experience of how the medicinal effects compare.

            To your question, I personally would rather take a pill than insert a suppository, but as we supplied them for colon and rectal cancer patients, they were as they say, "Spot on."

            After the initial insertion experience, side effects were an urge to void, more attention to holding a tight sphincter, and inability to fart.

            Medicinal effects were good and about on par for a similar dosage sublingually.

            We've of course also made cannacaps, for oral dosage, but never time release.

            Dr Melamede said that we are flooding our endocannabinoid system with phytocannabinoids, which implies a surfeit that would taper off as our livers struts its stuff, so maybe flooding, followed by ongoing time release maintenance dose to keep up with our livers............??
            An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.

            Believing is seeing and ignorance is bliss until it bites you in the ass!

            Fervor is the weapon of the impotent. The harder the sell, the poorer the product.

            Alas, my ignorance abounds; the more I've learned, the less I know that I know..........

            Thou shalt seek and respect the opinions of operators, even unto the third helper, for theirs is a wisdom unknown to technicrats.

            Wise men learn more from fools, than fools from wise men.

            In my dotage I finally discovered that the secret to putting on pants both legs at a time is sitting down.


            https://graywolfslair.com/

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              Originally posted by Old Gold View Post
              No need to "melt" the BHO with a torch. Simply heat it as well and viscosity lowers enough to pour. I usually decarboxylate my BHO, monitoring temperature with an IR gun and the CO2 off-gas visually; And when I'm ready to mix, I simply pour in the oil. You can preheat the oil to 180-200F like you mentioned to dissolve faster, but with the BHO so hot and oil quickly heating, it should dissolve easily anyways.

              Heating for 2 hours probably refers to decarboxylating the oil (making it orally active). SkunkPharm has a very descriptive page on it, but you can literally see enormous CO2 bubbles boil off, which is the decarboxylation process.

              Some have questioned the available charts (like SkunkPharm's) regarding the degradation rate of THC to CBN. I know several visually fully decarboxylated oils not show nearly the amount of CBN as graphs would suggest, according to various lab test results. I don't know how quality the labs are.
              Typically the decarboxylation graphs show the percent of THC as it rises to its peak at about 70% decarboxylation and then falls off rapidly.

              The reason for the curve of course is after about 70% decarboxylation, the amount of THC degrading to CBN, exceeds the rate of the remaining THCa converting to THC.

              Sooooooo, where is the CBN?

              The answer is that CBN also degrades into its breakdown elements, and the total cannabinoids are lower.
              An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.

              Believing is seeing and ignorance is bliss until it bites you in the ass!

              Fervor is the weapon of the impotent. The harder the sell, the poorer the product.

              Alas, my ignorance abounds; the more I've learned, the less I know that I know..........

              Thou shalt seek and respect the opinions of operators, even unto the third helper, for theirs is a wisdom unknown to technicrats.

              Wise men learn more from fools, than fools from wise men.

              In my dotage I finally discovered that the secret to putting on pants both legs at a time is sitting down.


              https://graywolfslair.com/

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                Thanx Lost Tribe,Old Gold and Gray Wolf for answers,

                very appreciated gentlemans.


                All the best and kind regards

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                  Thank you but all of the praise at least from my perspective should be for this One plant and this One cure!

                  Cure of One!
                  LostTribe

                  C99 The Ultimate Search and Rescue Mission
                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=334331

                  Treating Cancer with Concentrates
                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=301121

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                    watch Dr Bob's segment on hash church. he describes patients taking mega doses of active oil to stop cancer and other problems.

                    60 grams at once! mic drop. tumors falling off in days.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuT28Bh2jk

                    remember that your nearest woods are full of cancer fighting mushrooms that are waiting to be brewed into tea and heal you for free if you can't access good herb.

                    these can be harvested year around.
                    Tinder Polypore (Fomes fomentarius)


                    Artist's Conk (Ganoderma applanatum)


                    Chaga or Clinker Polypore (Inonotus obliquus)


                    Birch Polypore (Piptoporus betulinus)


                    Reishi Ganoderma tsugae


                    Oysters, maitake, shittakes and other are available fresh in fancy markets and are medicinally active and tasty!
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                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkM-UEz0Erc Jah Love is that plant... and a lot of others..

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                        Aloe arborescens is also great plant for treating cancers as she works as anti-mutagen..

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloe_arborescens

                        Thing is you need to use plant that is atleast 5 years old,its easy recipe
                        where you mix 500 grams of good organic honey,350 grams of leafes that are cleaned
                        from stings and 100 ml of quality desitilate alchohol (wiskey,votka,rakija) of 40% strong,
                        very important thing is to made cure in total dark and later put it in jar that
                        is totally black cause main medical active ingredient is very photosensitive,
                        taking cure every day in dark room whithouth light 3 times(morning,midday,evening) till you finish jar.

                        Children from Chernobil was treated with this plant in one Itallian clinic,
                        Father Romano Zago was write book on healing with this plant,

                        if you are interested you can google more on her..

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                          Originally posted by chilliwilli View Post
                          i hope everyone knows this man, if not now u know

                          PhD Manuel Guzmán

                          a link to his publications and publications from the researchgroup
                          http://www.bbm1.ucm.es/cannabis/publicaciones_en.htm
                          10 years of cannabis research

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                            Originally posted by Chunkypigs View Post
                            watch Dr Bob's segment on hash church. he describes patients taking mega doses of active oil to stop cancer and other problems.

                            60 grams at once! mic drop. tumors falling off in days.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuT28Bh2jk

                            remember that your nearest woods are full of cancer fighting mushrooms that are waiting to be brewed into tea and heal you for free if you can't access good herb.

                            these can be harvested year around.
                            Tinder Polypore (Fomes fomentarius)
                            View Image

                            Artist's Conk (Ganoderma applanatum)
                            View Image

                            Chaga or Clinker Polypore (Inonotus obliquus)
                            View Image

                            Birch Polypore (Piptoporus betulinus)
                            View Image

                            Reishi Ganoderma tsugae
                            View Image

                            Oysters, maitake, shittakes and other are available fresh in fancy markets and are medicinally active and tasty!
                            Any Idea what time dr bob is on talking about that? its a 4 hour long show...I see he comes on at 41:32:00
                            LostTribe

                            C99 The Ultimate Search and Rescue Mission
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=334331

                            Treating Cancer with Concentrates
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=301121

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                              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21063029

                              Was just looking into this thought it was relevant as most traditional cancer treatments effect blood cell counts.

                              " Taken together, these results demonstrate that the endocannabinoid system is involved in hematopoiesis and that CB₂/CB₂ agonist axis mediates repopulation of hematopoiesis and mobilization of HSPCs. Thus, CB₂ agonists may be therapeutically applied in clinical conditions, such as bone marrow transplantation."

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                                Here is a recent gem, thanks in effort to Bubbleman!! Certainly some relevant information there. I don't want to trail too off topic to this thread, so I will leave it at that.
                                https://youtu.be/9ZO9ipulgyg
                                Paul Stamets has BEEN killing it.

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