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    to discuss and promote advanced cannabis botany and advanced growing techniques
    please try to keep discussions on a civil basis and backed up by either research or actual evidence you have gathered
    from growing
    not old wifes tales and urban legends theres enough of that about already

    OP
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    #2
    Nice !! Excited to see this forum.

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      #3
      thanks oldpink, Gypsy and all who supported the idea

      until tomorrow,

      VG
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        #4
        I support VG as a mod he's far saner than I will ever be.

        Thanks for putting this forum here, you OFC guys think this is the right place for my plant biology notes? If so, please could someone review them for accuracy as they were part of a learning process - not a finshed article as such. And there's gaps to fill of course.

        Also, want a bunch of char science?

        An article kind of like

        Water retention - reference

        Crop increases - reference

        Controlling pH - reference

        etc. I'll just do it post by post breaking down the properties of char and the science supporting these.

        I think we should be firm about references - anecdotal evidence and opinions only to support and discuss the underlying science - or this forum becomes yet another huge volume of anecdotal inaccuracies, old wives tales and meanderings.

        Thoughts?
        I'm in it for the tomatoes. I been growing tomatoes for a long long time. Sometimes I get to thinking I know everything about tomatoes.
        My tomatoes make me completely delusional.

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          #5
          thx VG for bringing up this subject.....




          and thx OP for making it happen



          it would be nice to have threads where its locked for public posting, but a select few with botany degrees, or vast experience and knowledge would be able to write freely

          that way the clutter would be cleaned up and we would know none of it was BS
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            #6
            Amen and happy growing!

            The more things are forbidden, the more popular they become.
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            Its just Horticulture and yes, you're on your way to becoming a plant dork.


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              #7
              great idea! defoliation, anyone?

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                #8
                good luck gaining resolution with that thread. They remind me of Clinton asking what the definition of 'is' is.




                Can we ask that other threads get moved here? Technically i guess i already did with my pm, but i was wondering if there would be a bit of a reorganization, bringing a bunch of these type threads here.


                My thread What is the least amount of dark hours to keep 99% of plants in flower? isnt exactly advanced science, but it does highlight a few principles that seem to be forgotten because of the convenience of 12/12.






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                  #9
                  Originally posted by delta9nxs View Post
                  great idea! defoliation, anyone?
                  There is a decent thread on defoliation here:
                  Defoliation


                  I think the interesting part of this thread will be if we can get actual scientific work on here. Pictures and comparison stories are great, but it'd be great to get properly done experiments with identical environments (way harder than it sounds) as well as proper control groups and appropriately applied scientific method.

                  Can't wait to see what this place can stir up, woo hoo!

                  peace,
                  sg
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                    #10
                    Cool idea for a forum. if its a success it will really set the bar a bit higher compared to other canna boards.

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                      #11
                      I do wish to make a statement concerning this forum which to me is warmly received.

                      There is an intuitive aspect to scientific exploration. If it did not exist, nothing would be hypothesized, researched, discovered, nor proven. I do not wish to form a divide between those explorers with plants and dirt (media) and those explorers with plants, dirt, microscopes and academia. Rather, I wish to be a simplifying conduit between the two. This, if anything is the very meaning of my existence.

                      There are many accomplished growers as members here and the fruits of their labor is displayed pictorially, including those of my dear friend Verdant, however visual and thought perception are illusive and one does not always know the underlying reason for their success. This is where scientific explanation can be valuable. We can learn what it ‘actually probably’ is that is causing the growth of our plants. This is all that me and my littlebig brother, Spurr, wish to address here.

                      For example one may loudly state that they have a highly bacterial or fungal soil, compost or compost tea but in reality this can only be verified by microscope. This intends no belittling nor offense but is only intended to inject the scientific spectrum into what they are seeing and accomplishing so that others may replicate the techniques ‘more’ accurately and with greater understanding.

                      I feel some responsibility for introducing scientific application in growing techniques to ICmag outside of the well addressed breeding topic. My compatriots in this endeavor have been CT Guy and Spurr my student/teachers (whom I taught everything they know to……giggle) and now Mr Fista. Jaykush was practicing scientifically based growing techniques all along but called it ‘lessons from nature’…..Come on Jay, get with the program huh? I have always told CT guy and Spurr that they would surpass me in knowledge and teaching and indeed they are and will.

                      Let’s set an example with this forum and show that plain logic, reason, intuition, practice and science can come together
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                        #12
                        The most interesting threads to me have always been the ones which present fact-based evidence and information about growing, so I'm very happy to see this new forum! ICMag is already the #1 resource on the internet for growing info, and this will make it easier for folks to find the most advanced growing information available.

                        Thanks

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                          #13
                          a wise man once said "experience is the best form of science"
                          FRESH BEANS Co.(COMMING THIS SUMMER)
                          “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.” - Mark Twain
                          NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT, HE WILL LOWER YOU TO HIS LEVEL AND BEAT YOU BY EXPERIENCE
                          The Fresh spot

                          Phytophythora - "The Plant Destroyer"

                          Pythium Root Rot in Soil and Hydroponic Applications

                          Salt Tolerance of Plants in Soil

                          Pour Thru Method for testing soil PH and EC

                          Substrate pH: Getting it Right for Your Crops

                          Marijuana Documentaries

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by osecretgardeno View Post
                            There is a decent thread on defoliation here:
                            Defoliation


                            I think the interesting part of this thread will be if we can get actual scientific work on here. Pictures and comparison stories are great, but it'd be great to get properly done experiments with identical environments (way harder than it sounds) as well as proper control groups and appropriately applied scientific method.

                            Can't wait to see what this place can stir up, woo hoo!

                            peace,
                            sg
                            that thread is a tradgety and does nothing but destroy yields, my boy just lost 1/3 yield lost nug size AND had to cut the price due to mis-following that thread.
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                              #15
                              excellent ! i dragged in my couch and will be living here for a while
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