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    #16
    Here is Pheno 27, also interesting and very different girl from the others. She did not stretch like crazy, instead made a compact bush with long elongated buds that are tougher then the rest. She was done sooner in week 14 and the smell was sharp citrus, sweet and sour. The taste is the same as the smell and very pronounced, love it! The high is euphoric, happy, sociable and talkative, its not the strongest from the bunch but definitely one of the most pleasant hazes to smoke while enjoying the evening in pub, drinking and so on. She was not overpowering like some other Hazes, but still must be judged again after cure. Well just a thought about this Haze line, i really dont understand where are those junk plants Tom spoke about. All the plants i have are good quality sativas, great smell, taste and high i was really expecting something different from the breeder information hehe.
    "I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journey-work of the stars" Walt Whitman

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      #17
      Beautiful Haze plants guys!

      Well done!

      Can't wait to see the results hazeoil

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        #18
        Hi elanius. first, compliments on the growing. Its clear these genetics have been done every justice. I have just two questions if you don't mind - I'm always looking for interesting genetics and these are certainly that. Ive never heard ginger referenced before.

        First, did you find any Incense, Sandlewood or musky, hazy smelling plants? I mean particularly the aroma off the smoke when you burn it. Some describe this terpene profile as earthy or Rosmary. Some call the aroma "church" or liken it to Frankincense. Some associate it with piff or uptown haze i believe, other with old nevilles haze and kali mist.

        Second, did you see any nanas or balls?

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          #19
          hello,
          normally I don't post @ ic anymore...
          but have to say THH is amazing!
          the only true haze that is available...
          TFD O-Haze is hybrid now... bought 2 packs... looks more like Skunk/Haze so be warned
          From my pack 8/10 where germinating.... 1 seed was broken 1 seed was dull...
          so i was looking for males and feed them lot's of N + red light....
          I got 7 males and one pretty girl...
          1 male looks really nice thin leaf and smells more incense... the other more floral citrus...
          I use the male to pollinate my best pure sativa cut's.. like Kerala, Nigerian, Senegal, Malawi, Durban, C.Gold72, ColJam and DoubleJam....
          expensive but the best haze you can buy for money...
          highly recommend for all sativa lovers... :-)

          @HazeOil
          my males & girl look like the same as yours... very nice!

          @elanius
          nice selection you have there... do you make seeds from the selection?

          get hazed ;-)
          M.
          life is what you make it!
          if you can read this... then your Screen is to bright or you got it!
          it's you... carpe diem

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            #20
            Thanks to all for the kind words

            Spaventa, thanks but honestly, there is still much space for improvements and dialing the Hazes. The ones in this thread were more happy then others, but the longer flowering phenotypes were looking very "tired" in the end, with droopy leafs that were sometimes drying out in the tips and curling. I will show the pics later.

            1) What do you mean by hazy smell? I always wonder a bit about this. The haze is mix of tropical sativas around the world, so the hazy smell must varied a lot. If you mean musky/citrus/carrot/pine/mango/metallic/sweet and sour/perfume/rootbeer/gingerbeer all these notes i found in 13 females. And there was a mutant pheno that smells like forest berries. But this is the smell of fresh/dried herb. One of my favorites haze phenos smell like musky, sweet and sour carrot and its true anti anxiety herb for me.

            The smoke however does not smell of frankincense. The frankincense should be only true church smell, as the frankincense is simply highest quality resin collected from Boswellia trees and used in religious ceremonies. Such smell i know, and you can find it in Simply Irresistible.

            So how does the Toms Haze smoke smells like? It reminds me a burned resin from pine trees, with some musky and earthy elements maybe and i noticed that smell only from 2 phenotypes of this Haze line, also these two are my favorites. Few others leave some aroma in the air, but i cannot put me finger on it yet.

            2) "did you see any nanas or balls?"

            Yes, but nanners, not balls. I cannot blame the genetics entirely, as i found out later that there might be a light leak in the box and as i wrote the conditions in my box were far from perfect. But at least 5 females shows nanners in 3/4 of flower phase or in the very end. The others were absolutely stable, even in challenging conditions hh. However other reports describes the line very stable, so really might be me. Still im happy to be able to judge the stability of the females as well so it was fine, and even so, i found only about 15 seeds total (out of 13 females).

            Im happy to discuss the haze, in case of any other Qs, dont hesitate to shoot

            MadMac, i share your love for Toms Hazes And i did make a seeds, 8 Tom Hills Haze gangbang with all my dj short keepers, otm, flo, bb, f13 and cocoa kush.
            Last edited by elanius; 08-07-2017, 20:17.
            "I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journey-work of the stars" Walt Whitman

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              #21
              Beauties elanius, lovely job with these. Interested in the short/compact 'fast' finisher you posted above, I remember Hazy Lady's thread where she found a male equivalent she dubbed 'shorty' so these must not be too rare within this line.

              Be glad to hear any further thoughts you have on any of these Hazes as you go along.

              Only disappointment in reading this thread is having to find/scrape some spare cash to get a pack or 2.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Kush_Kloud View Post
                Those plants look really great Elanius ! Those leaves are kinda wide looking though. The Seedsman Original Haze grow reports that I have seen have thinner leaves than this Tom Hills Haze. Could this be because of the differences in selection between the two breeders? Maybe it is because Sam Skunkman selected towards the longer flowering, thin leaf, green/ Gold Haze phenotype? And because Tom Hill didn't select for just one specific terpene/ color/ effect like Sam Skunkman did?


                KK
                according to info from Sam the Skunkman he tried to preserve as many phenos as possible, i read that his sacred seeds offered 4 different lines in 1981, and some very long flowering haze variety called new year´s haze

                on the other side Wernard from positronics got cut of original haze called haze19 along with oh seeds from Sam. so Positronics made more narrow selection prolly, or just used haze19 cut as mother for their "original haze" seeds. i saw many resemblances between haze19xskunk from them and some phenos of tom hill haze. we all know tom hill got it from positronics around 1993. and made his own special selection...



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                Originally posted by Sam_Skunkman View Post
                I have not worked Original Haze as much as tried to save it, I collected as much seed as I could in the early 70's grew them and did free pollinations and did minimal selection to ensure I saved as many genes as I could. That was in the 70's & 80's now I have clones for the last 20 years. My O Haze is not done being worked on that is why I tell people to use it as breeding materials.

                -SamS
                Originally posted by Sam_Skunkman View Post
                I knew Wernard from 1984 he got seeds and Haze 19 as he called it from me.

                -SamS
                Last edited by MAHA KALA; 08-25-2017, 17:59.
                If all things were turned to smoke, the nostrils would distinguish them.

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                  #23
                  Thank you for the helpful information Maha Kala . That new year's Haze sounds interesting, I wonder what ever happened to this special Haze Selection. Do you have any vintage photos of articles that mention the 4 different lines that the Sacred Seed company was offering for sale? Also do you have vintage pictures of an article with the New year Haze description on it Maha Kala?

                  KK

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                    #24
                    hi Kush Kloud, nope i don't have. i just read it in one of those haze threads. as its the always thing to discuss here at internet if tom hill´s haze is pure haze
                    If all things were turned to smoke, the nostrils would distinguish them.

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                      #25
                      Toms Haze #16

                      This is another impressive phenotype from Toms Hazes, she has this freaky fox-tailing bud structure. A chain of big calyxes growing in every direction out of the main colas. The calyxes are heavily frosted with big trichome glands and intoxicating aromatics. They are giving a smell reminiscent of sweet musky pine and lime with that mango and metallic element in the background. While flowering she is deceiving in its looks. Those big calyxes make it seem like shes being close to maturity in 60 days of flower, but she continues to grow and stretch seemingly forever. Some of the trichs turned amber in 15 weeks of flower, so this was the time to put her down to eternal rest.
                      The taste is just lovely mix of sweet pine and mango, very pronounced.
                      The smoke is one of the most potent out of the Hazes, very euphoric, senses are elevated to another level, she creates the situations of mesmerized curiosity about sounds and visuals. Catching myself trying to identify a sound coming out of the window, that seems very far, yet uncommonly loud in my ear. As the high wear of, i feel pleasantly tired but it goes away eventually, definitely no trace of indica in the high and she does not trigger anxiety.
                      As a bonus, she leaves nice aroma in the air, reminding me of burned pine resin.
                      "I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journey-work of the stars" Walt Whitman

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by elanius View Post
                        This is another impressive phenotype from Toms Hazes, she has this freaky fox-tailing bud structure. A chain of big calyxes growing in every direction out of the main colas. The calyxes are heavily frosted with big trichome glands and intoxicating aromatics. They are giving a smell reminiscent of sweet musky pine and lime with that mango and metallic element in the background. While flowering she is deceiving in its looks. Those big calyxes make it seem like shes being close to maturity in 60 days of flower, but she continues to grow and stretch seemingly forever. Some of the trichs turned amber in 15 weeks of flower, so this was the time to put her down to eternal rest.
                        The taste is just lovely mix of sweet pine and mango, very pronounced.
                        The smoke is one of the most potent out of the Hazes, very euphoric, senses are elevated to another level, she creates the situations of mesmerized curiosity about sounds and visuals. Catching myself trying to identify a sound coming out of the window, that seems very far, yet uncommonly loud in my ear. As the high wear of, i feel pleasantly tired but it goes away eventually, definitely no trace of indica in the high and she does not trigger anxiety.
                        As a bonus, she leaves nice aroma in the air, reminding me of burned pine resin.
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                        Exquisite plant. The world needs more of the positive/stimulating effects found in a good haze expression.

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                          #27
                          now somebody became haze lover quite quick! congrats hehe
                          If all things were turned to smoke, the nostrils would distinguish them.

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                            #28
                            Anyone find that 'acid pheno'? I guess they would have mentioned it. The plants look great, no doubt pure sativas.

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                              #29
                              This was fantastic to see.
                              Below is a link to all of my grow reviews...there are a bunch so get off the clones, dive in, and find some new genetics to appreciate!

                              Click here for a link to all of my grows

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                                #30
                                Elanius I have a Nevilles Haze that grows almost identical to that. She's a different shade, more light green but the buds are exactly like yours - almost like wheat! Some would but Im not keeping her (after something very specific) but she's not bad smoke while the jar lasts.

                                This Tom Hill gear may be what Im looking for. So many avenues and so little time!

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