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The YukonKronicle

YukonKronic

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So I’ve been meaning for quite some time to start a thread to document my pollen chucking efforts as well provide a place to discuss random shit related (or sometimes not) to growing or smoking Cannabis.

I figured on putting it here because the majority of my strains are ACE or ACE crosses and I’m pretty confident it will stay that way. I have a sort of particular interest in crossing ACEs landrace based genetics with modern strains of high regard to find new and interesting twists in the best of some “older” and “newer” strains combined.

If the powers that be want to move thread elsewhere then so be it.

Aside from medical use I enjoy the hell out of Cannabis and have been “into” it since I was about 11. I didn’t really start smoking until my mid teens but it was always really interesting in every aspect to me. Even as young as 15 and 16 I knew it was helping me fight the depression that began developing just before my teen years.

I hope to lay out some of my reasons for doing shit and show people some of the results you can get from using as much locally sourced inputs as possible. I live in the Yukon so there are some things you just have to buy but there are others abundant in this place that may not be elsewhere... glacial rock dust for instance is everywhere. Kelp is not but COULD be sourced a days drive away. Bat guano is a rare treat in my garden.

Sort of in keeping with ideas from guys in the living soil threads I like the idea of minimizing the bottles and products and simply gathering the advantages your area could offer..
So I’m hoping to get people looking around and using what’s there and we can all learn a bit together about what’s in our own environments... I feel that connection to the place around us is something cannabis is already special for so why not roll with that a bit? I really love letting this plant teach me new things.

Aside from the hippy shit I just really like good herbs and want to have a spot to bullshit with others of like mind and perhaps pick the Brains of some who have greater...

If people have good stories pics of their plants or smoke reports and the like feel free to post up...
I have PTSD and depression and somehow that makes me anxious (go figure..) so there’s a bit of medical discussion to be had here if any want.

I got my ACMPR couple years back and got set building an organic living soil... my approach was not initially at all in keeping with local harvest ideals. I spent money on everything and gathered only some horseshit from a pasture..
But the soil I wanted to build was meant to approximate a flood plain on a riverside on a volcanic subtropical island.... lol at high altitude.
I figured from what I had read that was a pretty ideal habitat and I was probably right... but recreating it was kind of a ridiculously complex task in retrospect.
As I continued reading and learning and growing I bought some books (the teaming with series. Also had a couple organic garden books my mom had from the seventies) and learned more about how soils work and why and my soil evolved into its present state something between a loamy silty dirt and a highly biologically active tropical grassland/forest soil.
I have zeolite and lava rocks as well as local glacial till pebbles for drainage. I also incorporate pine forest duff (an area that was cleared for landscaping DON’T destroy virgin boreal forests. Please find areas already being developed and destroyed) sawdust soaked with fish hydrolysate and wood chips as drainage and tilth elements when needed.

I use locally made composted lawn/farm/leaf waste and several year old horse manure as a base now instead of peat although pro mix hp gets incorporated because it’s my cloning medium. So there’s a solo cup of that once in a while...
I researched local geology and found deposits of volcanic ash from the white river eruption up here 10,000 years ago... it has higher silica% than azomite I believe as well as a numbers of other goodies.
I also located local areas where ancient lava has eroded to dust and can be scooped up under a cliff side and in the same canyon there is a dark brown/reddish layer sandwiched between two limestone ones that is likely (maybe?)higher in organic compounds as it appears to be an ancient organic deposit on the sea bed that was once here.
I have found calcium rich chalky deposits reddish iron rich areas and places where the organics from the forest floor have runoff into dissolving granite. I have also located areas richer in blue and green hues indicative of the copper and other metals common to this area.

I did buy greensand both micronized and not and add it as well as some kelp although now that I started using FPEs and getting Boron from Borax I am moving away from that. Boron is not easily sourced from plants... I have learned that Poplar is a B hyper accumulator though so suppose I could sprinkle Borax around some poplar trees and then compost the leaves. I just don’t care enough.
There is also as much as 20% biochar in my mix. I use clay powder dug from a very blue layer 6feet down next to a lake to add more silt and increase CEC as well. I have 42 by 42 inch soil bins filled to about 16 inches with soil and incorporate some brome grass,chamomile, purslane, and some volunteer weeds and wildflowers I haven’t bothered identifying. Most of the cover crop dies as I mulch with canna waste,dried yarrow and dandelion some bokashi grain rock dusts bone meal and alfalfa hay or straw but the brome usually pulls through. It’s really the lynchpin.
Brome can send roots like 8 feet deep and pull food to the surface. It also hosts Rhizophagus intradices I believe... I like chamomile because it encourages a healthy rhizosphere. I’m hoping some flowers take hold so there will always be pollen for any predatory mites to eat when prey is low.

I have a thriving worm population in my bins and a terrific multitude of little creepy crawlies right up to thriving centipede population.
Fungus gnats are a bitch if I’m stupid about overdressing/feeding raw organic matter. They don’t last long at high numbers as the predators in my soil are varied and hungry and the larvae quickly become targets.
Aphids are an issue every spring. I just need to get my poop in a group and install proper air filters to keep em out... pyrethrums in veg wipes em out easy... I don’t fuck with aphids in flower. A plant that gets 6 aphids gets fuckn cut before they spread. I have seen the nightmare they can become. I will not forget it.


I’m on 600 watt digital ballast MH or HPS conversion bulbs with supplemental LED lighting... I try to run dense canopies with high light intensity and lots of lollipopping but that basically just means I’m fucking up 75% of the time because I keep running boxes of multiple strains to evaluate new cuts or breeding goals and doing a shit job of training them.

This post feels like a goddamn Novella. Moving on. I’m thinking bud shots maybe some smoke reports or some shit in next post..

Edit: I figured out how to post pics better on pg 9 for those who get sick of tiny pictures
 
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YukonKronic

Active member
Let’s throw down some GT scrog and drybud pics and then maybe some Zam crosses... anyone that’s noticed me here prolly noticed I like my weed to trip me out if possible :biggrin:

Or STOP me from trippin... lol PTSD fucks yo world up boys. I loooove Sativas but i have started on a juicy soft spot for BLD types that relax me...

PICS.
ACE Golden Tiger Malawi phenotype.
 

YukonKronic

Active member

This got cut pretty much at 13 weeks... was actually a disaster as a power outage froze my garden and eliminated most of my strains including GT. I had to order more seeds and currently have a more Thai dom female in flower.... I’ll pop a couple s1 of the above pictured cut and find a more vigorous one to join the Thai dom in being pollenated by the single male I got.
 
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YukonKronic

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I was relieved to find that freezing didn’t have too large an impact on the quality of the herb although it altered the Terpene profile a bit and made me trim/dry it a little faster so it wouldn’t mould from the moisture generated by thawing.... I’ll try to remember to roll a big ass joint and do a smoke report soon... it’s past 12 weeks cure and really pretty nice stuff. Fucking strong.
 
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Sertaiz

cool! nice to hear more, your last grow has been impressive, changing my thoughts about sativas indoors.
i have golden tiger going now, never finished her!!
excited to try her and panama for the first time.

i have never heard of brome
 

YukonKronic

Active member
I started playing with Zamaldelica fem right away when I began growing. I love this shit.

I didn’t have males but I had a pretty nicely structured ACE Guatemalan male that stank pretty good so this became my first cross.
I’ll try to get into the complete genesis of this strain later but it’s basically a very Zam dominant hybrid with Guatemalan contributing strawberry terpenes better yield and slightly tamer structure as well as a goofier smiley edge to the Zamal trip.

These are F3s two most common phenotypes. I think one is more Guatemalan dom but the more I look at pics in Guatemalan thread I wonder if I’ve mixed up which one! Smoke test will tell... these are a few weeks ago...

 
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YukonKronic

Active member
Here’s ZamxGuatemala F3 zam dom... I keep thinking it looks tropical like Garretts but there’s a few pics of Guatemalan with similar looking leafy buds so now I’m a little less confident... shmoke test will prolly be informative.
 

YukonKronic

Active member
i have never heard of brome

It’s an introduced species in most areas livestock have been. Technically I believe it’s a type of Alfalfa. Used extensively in dry farming operations Brome is an ideal livestock feed as it is nutritious drought resistant and readily adaptable to new environs.
If I didn’t fuck up my researchings then it’s also a good host for Rhizophagus intradices which is accepted as one of most suitable mycorrhizae for Cannabis. This shits everywhere and it’s roots can reach depths of 8 feet!.... it also grows fast so be ready to mow the lawn...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromus_inermis
Edit: I was wrong. Link I posted says its a grass... meh.
 
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YukonKronic

Active member
It’s a boy!!

I used father of TripNorth (ZamxGuatemala) F3s to pollinate an extremely resinous Thai/Zamal pheno of Zam fem dubbed Zam13


From that backcross (don’t know if it’s truly a “backcross” as Zam13 came from a femming of S1s of mother of TripNorth... complicated enough for ya?) came this little stud. He’s no Liberachi but he’s got a little bit of jewellery and his perfume is like... whoa man what exactly are you thinking you’ll attract smelling that strong?

He don’t give a fuuuuck. Doing his thing. I think I respect him.
 

YukonKronic

Active member
what should I call him? What’s a good weed plant pornstar name?
Kron Jerryweed? Bud Bigswell? Maayyybeee..... Herb Frostyballs?

Whatever his name he pollenated both TripNorth phenotypes and a Bubba Kush x PCK the other day.... I also pollenated both TripNorth phenos with an F3 male that had big yields nice structure and decent stank...

Lol I’m leaving it at this post for a bit just to force you all to think of weed plant porn star names:biggrin:
 
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40degsouth

Well-known member
Hey Yukon,
love it mate, well done. I'll hang here with ya!!
Purslane is a fantastic plant, it's got more omegas in it than any other plant, probably be good for teas and stuff??
I'd be careful with the boron though, it's star dust and no one really understands it's role in plant health, other than they need it in smaller, than miniscule amounts.
Although I'm an outdoor grower on the other side of the planet, l to have been running some pretty cool experiments; like using haliphites to sequester mineral salts out of the soil medium instead of flushing nutrients away. This is working well and a very interesting research topic.
I posted a bit of stuff up in the "Organic Soil" thread about using cuttlefish instead of perlite and I don't think it even got a like but maybe someone here might find the experiment and research useful; particularly, l think for small pots indoors (i.e. Interested of course/hard draniage)
I too believe in using local materials and l have evolved my growing in isolation without the miriad of inputs and collective intelligence that growers have the ability to access now.
Mate if you'll have me I'm in, I've hidden my light under a bushel for a long time.
Cheers 40
 

orfeas

Active member
Veteran
So I’ve been meaning for quite some time to start a thread to document my pollen chucking efforts as well provide a place to discuss random shit related (or sometimes not) to growing or smoking Cannabis.

I figured on putting it here because the majority of my strains are ACE or ACE crosses and I’m pretty confident it will stay that way. I have a sort of particular interest in crossing ACEs landrace based genetics with modern strains of high regard to find new and interesting twists in the best of some “older” and “newer” strains combined.

If the powers that be want to move thread elsewhere then so be it.

Aside from medical use I enjoy the hell out of Cannabis and have been “into” it since I was about 11. I didn’t really start smoking until my mid teens but it was always really interesting in every aspect to me. Even as young as 15 and 16 I knew it was helping me fight the depression that began developing just before my teen years.

I hope to lay out some of my reasons for doing shit and show people some of the results you can get from using as much locally sourced inputs as possible. I live in the Yukon so there are some things you just have to buy but there are others abundant in this place that may not be elsewhere... glacial rock dust for instance is everywhere. Kelp is not but COULD be sourced a days drive away. Bat guano is a rare treat in my garden.

Sort of in keeping with ideas from guys in the living soil threads I like the idea of minimizing the bottles and products and simply gathering the advantages your area could offer..
So I’m hoping to get people looking around and using what’s there and we can all learn a bit together about what’s in our own environments... I feel that connection to the place around us is something cannabis is already special for so why not roll with that a bit? I really love letting this plant teach me new things.

Aside from the hippy shit I just really like good herbs and want to have a spot to bullshit with others of like mind and perhaps pick the Brains of some who have greater...

If people have good stories pics of their plants or smoke reports and the like feel free to post up...
I have PTSD and depression and somehow that makes me anxious (go figure..) so there’s a bit of medical discussion to be had here if any want.

I got my ACMPR couple years back and got set building an organic living soil... my approach was not initially at all in keeping with local harvest ideals. I spent money on everything and gathered only some horseshit from a pasture..
But the soil I wanted to build was meant to approximate a flood plain on a riverside on a volcanic subtropical island.... lol at high altitude.
I figured from what I had read that was a pretty ideal habitat and I was probably right... but recreating it was kind of a ridiculously complex task in retrospect.
As I continued reading and learning and growing I bought some books (the teaming with series. Also had a couple organic garden books my mom had from the seventies) and learned more about how soils work and why and my soil evolved into its present state something between a loamy silty dirt and a highly biologically active tropical grassland/forest soil.
I have zeolite and lava rocks as well as local glacial till pebbles for drainage. I also incorporate pine forest duff (an area that was cleared for landscaping DON’T destroy virgin boreal forests. Please find areas already being developed and destroyed) sawdust soaked with fish hydrolysate and wood chips as drainage and tilth elements when needed.

I use locally made composted lawn/farm/leaf waste and several year old horse manure as a base now instead of peat although pro mix hp gets incorporated because it’s my cloning medium. So there’s a solo cup of that once in a while...
I researched local geology and found deposits of volcanic ash from the white river eruption up here 10,000 years ago... it has higher silica% than azomite I believe as well as a numbers of other goodies.
I also located local areas where ancient lava has eroded to dust and can be scooped up under a cliff side and in the same canyon there is a dark brown/reddish layer sandwiched between two limestone ones that is likely (maybe?)higher in organic compounds as it appears to be an ancient organic deposit on the sea bed that was once here.
I have found calcium rich chalky deposits reddish iron rich areas and places where the organics from the forest floor have runoff into dissolving granite. I have also located areas richer in blue and green hues indicative of the copper and other metals common to this area.

I did buy greensand both micronized and not and add it as well as some kelp although now that I started using FPEs and getting Boron from Borax I am moving away from that. Boron is not easily sourced from plants... I have learned that Poplar is a B hyper accumulator though so suppose I could sprinkle Borax around some poplar trees and then compost the leaves. I just don’t care enough.
There is also as much as 20% biochar in my mix. I use clay powder dug from a very blue layer 6feet down next to a lake to add more silt and increase CEC as well. I have 42 by 42 inch soil bins filled to about 16 inches with soil and incorporate some brome grass,chamomile, purslane, and some volunteer weeds and wildflowers I haven’t bothered identifying. Most of the cover crop dies as I mulch with canna waste,dried yarrow and dandelion some bokashi grain rock dusts bone meal and alfalfa hay or straw but the brome usually pulls through. It’s really the lynchpin.
Brome can send roots like 8 feet deep and pull food to the surface. It also hosts Rhizophagus intradices I believe... I like chamomile because it encourages a healthy rhizosphere. I’m hoping some flowers take hold so there will always be pollen for any predatory mites to eat when prey is low.

I have a thriving worm population in my bins and a terrific multitude of little creepy crawlies right up to thriving centipede population.
Fungus gnats are a bitch if I’m stupid about overdressing/feeding raw organic matter. They don’t last long at high numbers as the predators in my soil are varied and hungry and the larvae quickly become targets.
Aphids are an issue every spring. I just need to get my poop in a group and install proper air filters to keep em out... pyrethrums in veg wipes em out easy... I don’t fuck with aphids in flower. A plant that gets 6 aphids gets fuckn cut before they spread. I have seen the nightmare they can become. I will not forget it.
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I’m on 600 watt digital ballast MH or HPS conversion bulbs with supplemental LED lighting... I try to run dense canopies with high light intensity and lots of lollipopping but that basically just means I’m fucking up 75% of the time because I keep running boxes of multiple strains to evaluate new cuts or breeding goals and doing a shit job of training them.

This post feels like a goddamn Novella. Moving on. I’m thinking bud shots maybe some smoke reports or some shit in next post..

Oh boy, now that's quite devout an effusion, I will definitely tag along!

Your environment account makes it sound as if you've got all those sophisticated nurseries at hand... a jot like the one I dwell in :)
Quite a challenge though trying to produce the "perfect" soil... I use invertred commas for I've never sussed out the NPK analogies and what not...it really beat me once when my soil analyses read 7.5 of pH, quite abundant/excessive N and way off excessive B, but my Bangi Haze along with P X M really flourished all the way...ain't it weird? Of course, outdoors is a wonder by itself anyway... :)

You took me by surprise with those aphid pics! Man, I've never seen such a thing on canna plants before...yet my almond tree has a hard time every spring and not spotting them in time has me drenching the tree with abamectin...don't fancy them chems much but when infestation gets out of hand, man's gota do what man's gotta do...

Happy growing, mate!

:tiphat:orfeas
 

YukonKronic

Active member
Hey Yukon,
love it mate, well done. I'll hang here with ya!!
Purslane is a fantastic plant, it's got more omegas in it than any other plant, probably be good for teas and stuff??
I'd be careful with the boron though, it's star dust and no one really understands it's role in plant health, other than they need it in smaller, than miniscule amounts.
Although I'm an outdoor grower on the other side of the planet, l to have been running some pretty cool experiments; like using haliphites to sequester mineral salts out of the soil medium instead of flushing nutrients away. This is working well and a very interesting research topic.
I posted a bit of stuff up in the "Organic Soil" thread about using cuttlefish instead of perlite and I don't think it even got a like but maybe someone here might find the experiment and research useful; particularly, l think for small pots indoors (i.e. Interested of course/hard draniage)
I too believe in using local materials and l have evolved my growing in isolation without the miriad of inputs and collective intelligence that growers have the ability to access now.
Mate if you'll have me I'm in, I've hidden my light under a bushel for a long time.
Cheers 40

Hey 40 glad to have you and any others that want to hang.. purslane was indeed selected for it’s Omegas... I confess I’m down to only a couple plants left... there’s not been much downtime between cycles and I’ve been vegging plants less and going higher numbers so the cover crop has been shaded out except the Brome and some chamomile because I sow it with my weed seeds. Chamomile is known as a “nurse” plant that can help other sick plants nearby to recover health.

I don’t make teas with cover crop.. I choose things that encourage the rhizosphere I’m after. If purslane is high in Omegas then it’s root environment must be conducive to their production yes? So that (I’m hoping) should encourage my cannabis to produce them as needed too. Even if it doesn’t help cannabis produce Omegas they still get composted in as the purslane lives and dies.
I have yarrow and plantain and dandelions in huge abundance along roadsides or in fields around here so I dry those or make FPEs or both.
I don’t know what a haliphite is but it sounds interesting as does cuttlefish, I looked to Boron because it helps plants regulate movement of nutrients as far as I understand (I’m not an expert I just read lots) and my older soil bed had been showing multiple micro nutrient deficiencies at various points in cycle despite my supplementing with FPEs and rock dusts even some metal filings and things like marsh muck or volcanic ash... small amounts at a time.
I surmised that the nutrition was in the soil but not being utilized either because of imbalance or some limiting factor too minute for me to identify.
Soooo I looked at boosting plant metabolic processes and between giving fish hydrolysate to boost protein which (I think) help the plant store more food as fats and throwing a pinch of Borax into water rez it seems to have helped a lot.. another thing I’ve been ramping up is feeding more cannabis waste to my soil.

Since using Boron in small amounts I have noticed a general increase in plant vigour and health but I’m mindful of my soils high CEC and I generally only add about a teaspoon or so to 45 gallons of water once every cycle early to mid flower when plants are striving to use everything they’ve got. That barrel of water gets split between two beds of soil too so that reduces B in each box to like 3/4 teaspoon per cycle. Over roughly 150 gallons of soil. Now I wonder if I shouldn’t try a little more... I doubt it.
 
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YukonKronic

Active member
Hey orf thought you might show up here... there’s others we both know will be along too!!
In their absence we shall commence to bullshit.:biggrin:
I’m probably miles away from a perfect soil but those ideas were just a starting point.. I found slownickel had interesting ideas on calcium when I tried to learn more about CEC and since I began throwing as much calcium rich clays and rock dusts as my tilth could handle I got much bigger healthier plants.. I imagine soils with very high calcium saturation could read pretty high PH yet still support thriving vegetation. When I tested mine last it was above 7 as well and I definitely have enough biology going to acidulate..
I need to get numbers on my soil soon. Home testing for fertility just put me as excessive in pretty much every macronutrient but weed is a weed so it’s pretty happy with lots of food.
As you say nobody seems to have figured out (cue lineup of people shouting that their numbers are correct) what the perfect numbers for cannabis are. Or if they have they sure haven’t told me.

Yea the aphids were gross. That went from five or six on the occasional yellow lower leaf to full blown fuckery in five days of absence. Was my first attempt at a big scrog and it wasted like probably almost a pound of Garrett’s dominant Zamaldelica fem. Hard learning experience that one was, that’s why I show the pics when I mention aphids. Youse guys don’t wanna go there. Do your IPM.
 

40degsouth

Well-known member
I had something poignant to say but l can't remember what it was 'cos I'm smoking finger hash off an 8 foot Space Monkey I pulled down today!!
 

40degsouth

Well-known member
If chomomile's a "nurse plant" do you need it if your plants aren't sick?? What sort of exudate(s) does it give off???
An experiment this year for me was growing with carrots in a bed and they were two of the both sickest plants in the garden!.........but......the plants grown with the beetroot were pretty huge.
 
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