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    working with dubi's g/p haze x thai F3s

    Thought I'd better have something to show before I tell this time,
    with a green haze x thai F3, left; and purple haze x thai F3, right-


    Since these are now at F3 and semi-stable I thought we could start
    having fun with them-
    by beginning work on making F4s,
    and by using some of this pollen to make "improved" versions of
    some "classics".
    Examples of these are a Neville's Haze Mango in re-veg,
    and a couple seedlings up of Karma Genetics' Jack-o-Nesia. I'm also
    trying to develop green and purple lines of a F13xJohnnyBlaze cross
    (which reeks of cedar due to the Highland Oaxacan Gold in it)
    I made to eventually inter-mingle with our green and purple haze thais.
    I hope to get some of these into the server fund.

    Any ideas, suggestions, etc. are welcome. I'm a newbie at this hobby
    breeding thing (a mix of home brewing and breeding roses for us retirees ).

    Saludos!
    JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
    Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
    Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

    #2
    Those are some awesome genetics you are working and crossing. Best of luck with the results.


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      #3
      Wish you the best LowFalutin with your haze thai grow and selections

      Our haze thais produce great hybrids when they are crossed with faster flowering plants like a few growers have experienced here ... hopefully they are also usefull for your own breeding projects, let me know if you have any doubt during the process. Good luck!

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        #4
        Originally posted by The Hatter View Post
        Those are some awesome genetics you are working and crossing. Best of luck with the results.
        Thanks, H. Hope things are growing well with you.


        Originally posted by dubi View Post
        ...
        Our haze thais produce great hybrids when they are crossed with faster flowering plants like a
        few growers have experienced here ... hopefully they are also usefull for your own breeding projects,
        let me know if you have any doubt during the process. ...
        Thanks, dubi.
        Any selection guidance would be appreciated. I've got enough GHzT
        to work with, but need to do another start of the PHzT to get to
        that point with them.

        Here are four of the GHzTs, not all germed at the same time.


        Stem rub on the tallest (and is tallest overall of the GHzTs)
        gives a citrus and light fuel aroma.

        more updates to come

        Saludos!
        JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
        Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
        Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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          #5
          Been veggin'

          After a nice long veg, and with several plants showing alternating phyllotaxy, I kicked off flowering 4 nights ago.

          The plan is to ID a couple of good males and pollen-collect, and put the girls back into veg with an up-potting before final flower.

          My grow space is waaay too crowded now, and this first flowering will
          help kick off the selection process.

          Any advice for GHxT male selection is deeply appreciated!

          Saludos
          JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
          Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
          Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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            #6
            Hi LowFalutin,

            I'm glad to know the project is progressing. My favourite green haze thai mother has a very pleasant happy effect and the aroma is refined sweet floral, a kind of aroma that is not typical of oldtimer's haze line or meo thai (usually more woody spicy) but appeared in the Green Haze Thai F2s.

            I dont like to select/avoid plants just for the early growing traits unless they are very mutated or completly lack of vigour. You will need to label , flower and smoke each plant to choose the best one or your favourite expression. Please, share with us some pics when they are flowering.

            Kind regards, dubi

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              #7
              Originally posted by dubi View Post
              Hi LowFalutin,
              I'm glad to know the project is progressing. My favourite green haze thai mother has a very pleasant happy effect and the aroma is refined sweet floral, a kind of aroma that is not typical of oldtimer's haze line or meo thai (usually more woody spicy) but appeared in the Green Haze Thai F2s.
              I dont like to select/avoid plants just for the early growing traits unless they are very mutated or completly lack of vigour. You will need to label , flower and smoke each plant to choose the best one or your favourite expression. Please, share with us some pics when they are flowering.
              Kind regards, dubi
              Thanks for stopping by, dubi.
              Your input is much appreciated.
              Before I forget- what selection criteria did you use when choosing males?


              Update, after 15 nights of flower:
              - I now have 8 definite female GHxT, with 3 remaining to be determined.
              - 2 PHxT females.
              After the GHxT finish sexin' they will all get up-potted and re-vegged.
              (they've so far spent their lives in small 6" pots)

              I have several male GHxT. I'm planning on selecting two thai-leaning,
              and two g.haze-leaning males to up-pot, finish flowering, and harvest/store their pollen.

              All green and purp haze females will get a separate branch pollenated from each of the thai and haze-leaning pollen batches.
              (two NepalHaze ladies get the same treatment)

              I'll only keep the seeds from the most desirable plants, selected post-cure.

              That's the plan, so far.
              Happy growing.
              JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
              Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
              Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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                #8
                Minor update

                hola

                Ended up with 9 female GHxT- various pheno expressions.
                Kept 1 columnar-ier, chunkier-stemmed (Thai?) male.
                Kept 2 smoother and thinner stemmed, side-branchier (GH?) males.
                (edit: they were the last two that declared male :end edit)
                Still have the 2 PHxT females, neither seeming to have much
                columnar/chunk; though not having as thin/vine-y stems as a few
                of the GHxT ladies, yet still long INLs and side-branching.

                All ladies have been in re-veg for almost a week.
                I just up-potted the last of the 9 into 2 gal. smart pots today.
                All under low-ish-er light until they acclimate to their new situations.

                I'll spend the next several weeks collecting/storing pollen while
                the ladies get some size.

                Pics when we get some bright window light.

                Saludos
                JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
                https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
                Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
                https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
                Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
                https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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                  #9
                  Hi LowFalutin,

                  Sounds like you have enough diversity to play with and to find interesting combinations.

                  Like i explained to TimeKeeper in the malawi males thread, use the most vigorous, resinous males with strong desirable aromas and higher flower and pollen production, and avoid the ones with low smell, low quality aromas, low resin production or low vigour, and of course any intersexed plant. It's good to stress the males you want to breed with to check if they have any hermie trait hidden, i didn't find hermies in the haze x thais reproduction i made outdoors 2 years ago but can not be discarded 100 % considering the extreme tropical genetics involved in the hybrid.

                  For the green haze thai i'm selecting towards the more compact and fatty expressions with sweet floral aromas. Gentle clear effect.

                  For Purple haze thai i'm selecting towards purple/reddish incensey phenos with black liquor and blackberry aromas and more introspective mental effect.

                  Good luck on your pheno hunt!

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                    #10
                    brilliant info!

                    Thanks for taking the time to put it down, dubi.
                    I hope many others benefit as well.

                    Saludos!
                    JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
                    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
                    Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
                    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
                    Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
                    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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                      #11
                      the sleeper has, like, awakened

                      Pic of most vigorous PHxT, left, with the GHxT that most resembles your
                      description, structurally...
                      Originally posted by dubi View Post
                      For the green haze thai i'm selecting towards the more compact and fatty expressions
                      with sweet floral aromas. Gentle clear effect.

                      The PHxT is 18"/45cm tall.


                      They were (all) in flower from mid- to late-January (16 days).
                      They've been in re-veg for 12 days.
                      Topping and LST are being used while in re-veg to get some more
                      side-branching and bushing up.


                      Closer-up of the GHxT above.
                      It's the most green, chunky and columnar; and
                      least stretchy and side-branchy of the 9 GHxTs.
                      A sweet smell with stem-rub.



                      Closer-ups of the PHxT above. She's the most vigorous of all the G- and
                      PHxTs combined- re-vegging with a re-vengence. The leaves around the
                      tops started to darken a bit after flowering started.





                      saludos
                      JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
                      Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
                      Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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                        #12
                        Thanks for the update LowFalutin,

                        It's a very good sign to see nice resin production in early flowering in this kind of extreme tropical sativas. Hopefully you find them interesting for your breeding plans.

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                          #13
                          Hola

                          Everyone's still in re-veg. Getting ready to harvest and store pollen.

                          This seems to be my most green haze-leaning GHxT lady.
                          She has the "greasiest" leaves...



                          And tends to want to vine out the most after leaving the main stem,
                          and just seems different from the rest...


                          (lots of topping, LST, and not-so-LST)

                          Her stem-rub smell is kind of musky sour, like a little bit of armpit
                          and some citrus.

                          The fruitier phenos (around 3 or 5 out of 9) have a more melony
                          fruit smell, not berry or citrus. It reminds me of a pheno or two
                          of C99bx1 (moscaN) I've had.

                          A couple of questions-

                          Do the more haze-leaning phenos have a cleaner, or in some other
                          way, better high? (more interested in clean than strong/yield)

                          Is the red in the stems from some of the purple genetics bleeding over,
                          or from the thai? (temps have been low 70sF "day", 65F night)

                          happy growing
                          Saludos!
                          JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
                          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
                          Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
                          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
                          Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
                          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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                            #14
                            bring on the warm jets...

                            Pollen collected last week; flowering has kicked off over this week.
                            I'll dial my daylight hours down "to eleven" (it's 1 darker, to give it that extra push)
                            by this Saturday, as well as swap in the 1000w hps.

                            Here's a couple of pics of the wire-iest GHxTs...



                            The girl on the right (both pics) has been shown before.
                            On the left is her (broader) leafier and more vigorous sister...




                            All the Jack o' Nesias intended for GHxT pollen ended up male.
                            The re-vegged Neville's Haze Mango is in flower- she'll receive some.
                            And this is my most Neville's Haze-leaning Johnny Blaze F2 (very lemony scent)...



                            Looking forward to seeing what happens with her and the GHxT pollen.
                            And both PHxT ladies will get some too, to create a Meao'dTimers Haze.
                            Lastly, the columnar Nepal Haze, with its lemony scent, could provide
                            some nice offspring with the GHxT batter.

                            More soon. Saludos!

                            PS I found my shower stall a great place to collect pollen...
                            an isolated space that's easy to spray down/clean after each plant.
                            Will use it to place pollen as well.
                            JohnnyBlazeF2, F13xJohnnyBlaze selections/x's
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=273015
                            Workingw/Ace's G/PhazexthaiF3s selections/x's
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275152
                            Goingmobilew/Volcano+car+DCinverter trouble
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271392

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                              #15
                              Hola LowFalutin,

                              I'm glad to know you already switched them to flower and that you saved pollen to pollinate other strains, haze thai crossed to mango haze and neville haze x blueberry should produce a very nice and hazy outcome.

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