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    #46
    Originally posted by danut View Post
    The price, if it had never been made illegal to begin with, would be about four dollars per pound. Like a vegetable.

    The difference between $4 and $4000 is kept in place by putting thousands of people in jail. Even killing some.

    It's blood money.
    Perhaps but the expense to grow INDOOR is well more than 20x and as high as 40x that $4 figure. Ask a Cali indoor grower if he is producing Lbs for less than $160 in elec. let alone nutes, equipment, packaging / handling?

    My real point is that even IF fully legal in the future, the costs faced by most growers currently is well in excess of $160 an lb or $10 an oz.

    So unless you expect power companies, local governments, equipment vendors and other to take huge cuts there can never be $4lbs because the cots to produce an LB is already well greater than that IRRESPECTIVE of the legal status of this plant.

    The sad take away is that AMAZING indoor hydro may become as rare as indoor tomatoes. Funny further is the outdoor crop is the only reason for this recent crash in CA wholesale prices. Amazing genetics done well outdoor in CA rival or beat poor CA indoor and the costs per lb are WAY less for outdoor.

    The market will go where it will. But if fully legalized indoor can never be less than the input costs of production.

    Last edited by Hydrosun; 03-24-2011, 06:15.
    "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." ~ Samuel Adams

    "To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it." ~Thomas Jefferson

    The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ~Fed 47, A. Hamilton & J. Madison
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      #47
      Mexi purple kush

      #1 imported drug into the US is cannabis ...at least from Mexico, if the numbers and the
      people are right, then cannabis is the drug tied right to the blood WAR in MEXICO and the
      bordering US. Mexican cartels are now growing comerical quality indoor and smugleing into
      US, go figure its about time they put all the Oaksterdam cuts to use: phroabition needs to end everybody deserves Cannabis
      RIP DR JAY

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        #48
        only people getting lowballed are those with crap....i know cats growing indoors that barely even get outdoor prices because it sucks these guys run 40k warehouses and set everything on timers and barely put in any work, fuck those guys...heard a grower recently say "i dont care about weed i just do for living" when he saw how good our Kush loked compared to his uncured premo grapes...haha buddy thats why you are getting lowballed.


        4 dollars a LB is the biggest load of crap ive heard....really hate people who think weed is gonna become worthless overnight due to legalization. did you forget the only reason the government would legalize it is to MAKE MONEY and they sure as shit are gonna tax way more than 4 dollars a LB....try 10% an LB in the current med market or 50 dollars an OZ...so if you sell an LB for 3k you gotta pay 300+ in taxes....and the government still wants more!! 4 dollars a LB hahaha...yeah maybe for outdoor guerilla weed what we call jungle packs or surenos sativa...
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          #49
          Originally posted by Yes4Prop215 View Post
          4 dollars a LB hahaha...yeah maybe for outdoor guerilla weed what we call jungle packs or surenos sativa...
          rofl

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            #50
            If one knows what the are doing and have a constant quality, they can get 4k to 4500 a lb easy, even in Cali...
            Genesis 1:29-Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."
            Genesis 9:3-Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

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              #51
              Originally posted by CalcioErba2004 View Post
              If one knows what the are doing and have a constant quality, they can get 4k to 4500 a lb easy, even in Cali...
              Wholesale?

              I dunno. I'll take your word for it, I'm in no position to say otherwise. But that is not what I've heard from literally everyone I know in CA...

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                #52
                Originally posted by CalcioErba2004 View Post
                If one knows what the are doing and have a constant quality, they can get 4k to 4500 a lb easy, even in Cali...
                Yeah this is the website of those who know, and AAA+, Top Shelf, Fire can't get that in CA anymore. Just saying, don't care to see it higher only better high. So price is falling in CA even for the best of the best.

                The silver lining is there is more AAA+ than CA can use so the rest of the world sees it now.

                "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." ~ Samuel Adams

                "To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it." ~Thomas Jefferson

                The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ~Fed 47, A. Hamilton & J. Madison
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by danut View Post
                  The price, if it had never been made illegal to begin with, would be about four dollars per pound. Like a vegetable.

                  The difference between $4 and $4000 is kept in place by putting thousands of people in jail. Even killing some.

                  It's blood money.
                  This is true!

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by danut View Post
                    The price, if it had never been made illegal to begin with, would be about four dollars per pound. Like a vegetable.

                    The difference between $4 and $4000 is kept in place by putting thousands of people in jail. Even killing some.

                    It's blood money.
                    He said if it had NEVER been made illegal. If it had never been made illegal ,no one , except for maybe people in harsh climates would grow it indoor. Most herbs don't produce as much weight as cannabis and look at the prices other herbs. I can't get a couple pounds off one of my outdoor basil plants. I am glad that the price of weed meens nothing to me.

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                      #55
                      Thank you for your acknowledgement, and I said it would be as rare as indoor tomatoes. But the fact remains that indoor hydro AAA+ is the shit, as good as many products humans prize.

                      I don't buy indoor produce, but all my beer, wine, and spirits are refined and packaged indoors.

                      Nothing wrong with top class cannabis being treated with special care.

                      "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." ~ Samuel Adams

                      "To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it." ~Thomas Jefferson

                      The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ~Fed 47, A. Hamilton & J. Madison
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                        #56
                        there are a few clubs in socal still paying 4+ for packs...know this for a fact. really rare though....most clubs in SF bay only offering 32 tops for the best..
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                          #57
                          you couldnt buy herb for four dollars a pound before reefer madness...
                          fucking imbeciles..
                          $4.00 a lb...
                          what a joke..
                          see tables 3&4
                          http://ageconsearch.umn.edu/bitstrea...3_clements.pdf

                          how much do you idiots think production costs?
                          how much do you think those costs would raise when legalized?
                          WHO DAT

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by dagnabit View Post
                            you couldnt buy herb for four dollars a pound before reefer madness...
                            the rest of your post is quite rude sir.

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                              #59
                              Here in the Heart of Mendocino County....the days of 3k + wholesale indoor have come to an end. Large packs move @ mid-high 2's in my neck of the woods. It's all in who you know and where it's going.

                              The competent growers will adapt to keep the margins high and stay in business. As prices continue to fall, you must conversely decrease overhead to sustain the profits one desires. Those that fail to do so, are getting squeezed out of the game. Avenues for distribution are narrowing, so marketing schemes and creating niches has become a necessity to keep product moving in a saturated market.

                              I believe that there are checks and balances in place that will keep the Cannabis market profitable for years to come....short of national legalization...which would allow big business to move in. With the current federal agenda on MMJ...it doesn't look like this will happen any time soon.

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                                #60
                                Dont get rubbed the wrong way..but most of you who say 4K per Elbow isnt going down in Cali just dont have the Quality...Str8 up...your IDEA of BOMB just isnt that Bomb....

                                I've seen 10 packs in recent weeks fly off the handles of just str8 insane Lemony OG grown perfect....

                                So either Sharpen your skillz up...which I'm assuming thats the problem...or find better genetics...your being lazy growing clones..you need something better...pop mad seeds and find some Niche shit ....

                                Plain and simple your idea of a 10 just isnt a 10...the reaction on peoples faces when you show them amazing dank...just blows them away...and there is minimal barganing as they know the stuff is legit...Head and shoulders above all the other crap
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