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    It can be rough for anyone with no connections. Ive been doing business with the same person for years. If he died it take me a min to find someone I like again.

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      Originally posted by Lyfespan View Post
      i had a team, to handle things, but as things started getting shitty connections were lost. im now having to jump lanes ad try to pickup the pieces. after spending to rehab rooms, update equipment andspent money in general.

      like hammer i dont use hype names, i grow quality clean meds and dont care to play games or lie. i enjoy growing, i understand all aspects of this industry and have all the experience too. but i found it best to just grow, let everyone else make products, packaging and what not. i have spent thousands on people and their great marketing ideas, im done with that, making hash and all other things but growing, done.

      just trying to keep doing what i love, but looks like its back to construction management
      Hit up the status sesh. It's in SB. you should be able to move a few packs a day.

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        I found this site link to be helpful and accurate. I think its important to remember where you grow it (outdoor, greenhouse, indoor) makes no difference on the price. Quality sets the price. Indoor can look like outdoor, outdoor can look like indoor, and greenhouse can go either way.

        https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/cannabisindex/

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          Any other medicinal swap meets around besides the sesh in La?

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            Originally posted by asilsweater View Post
            Any other medicinal swap meets around besides the sesh in La?
            There are some in the IE. Redlands , Perris, San Berdo has a couple. Be careful if you set up in San Bernardino, people have been getting rob at the one on 24th.

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              Yea I went to the one on 24 and it was hella shady, that’s why I’d like to attend other more reputable spots. Shoot me the ig for them thru my inbox. Happy holidays??

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                Originally posted by PanamaRed44 View Post
                I found this site link to be helpful and accurate. I think its important to remember where you grow it (outdoor, greenhouse, indoor) makes no difference on the price. Quality sets the price. Indoor can look like outdoor, outdoor can look like indoor, and greenhouse can go either way.

                https://www.cannabisbusinesstimes.com/cannabisindex/
                Where you grow it does make a difference. You can grow A+++ outs, and nobody will pay 28+ for it, not even 22+ unless it's broken down into zips.

                Of course there's deps that look like ins, but nobody in CA will go for it. You can fool out of staters tho. I've seen that happen several times.

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                  Originally posted by Oliver Pantsoff View Post
                  Where you grow it does make a difference. You can grow A+++ outs, and nobody will pay 28+ for it, not even 22+ unless it's broken down into zips.

                  Of course there's deps that look like ins, but nobody in CA will go for it. You can fool out of staters tho. I've seen that happen several times.

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                  The comment I made is in reference to the prices in the link.

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                    Originally posted by PanamaRed44 View Post
                    where you grow it (outdoor, greenhouse, indoor) makes no difference on the price. Quality sets the price.
                    I wish that was true. In CA it seems that where it's grown matters more to price than any other aspect. Pretty much it's the only factor assuming the item isn't a bad example. Look back at this thread, you will see numerous posts listing price ranges for outdoor, deps, and indoor. True absolute "quality" (taste, potency, effects) hardly count at all compared to grow method and looks.

                    As far as I'm concerned this standard for pricing makes no sense. I've been involved with this since the late 70s. I've seen the prices move up and down over that time. Mostly they moved based simply on supply and demand relative to a general "quality" assessment. Price categories did exist, such as brick weed or Mexican, Thai sticks or stickless and homegrown. Indoor did not exist till after about 1987-88. It was the first product to really deviate from quality determining price. Cost to produce became the main factor for indoor which wasn't a factor for other production methods.

                    How that evolved is a story of its own.

                    Originally posted by PanamaRed44 View Post
                    Indoor can look like outdoor, outdoor can look like indoor, and greenhouse can go either way.
                    Not really true but sort of and the less experienced the viewer the more it can the case. There are many who can't reliably determine which is which and yet if you reveal it to them they instantly assign the current price levels to them regardless of actual real quality. Makes. No. Sense.


                    IMO the way the market has decided to price is perverse in many ways. Cost to produce shouldn't count much at all. It's something the grower chooses and must make work, not expect consumers to pay for. Indoor can be produced repeatedly all year round yet full season sun grown has just a single run per year. Seems that would make top quality examples the most valuable but it's not.

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                      Are you guys getting these prices off locals or immigrants? What do you think about Mexican growers. Their outdoor was pretty good every time I went through them and cheaper than any where else I could find

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                        I think we all can agree quality should drive prices.. Ea person has there own opinion what quality is.. If you have experienced a wide range of genetics going back the last 50 years you will know what I'm talking about.

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                          I have spoken

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                            Its about overhead. Quality does drive price, great indoor fetches higher numbers than shitty ones. Same goes for outs. However, if any of us decided we wanted to grow 100lbs all at once in California.....the sun is fucking free. Sure there is overhead with doing it outdoor, but cost that out and then do the same for indoor with added electric bills. Indoor will always cost more because it costs more to produce and makes for a product with more quality control. If a bunch of birds decide to shit on your outdoor, that sucks, indoor, it hits the roof.....
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                              Originally posted by Crooked8 View Post
                              Its about overhead. Quality does drive price, great indoor fetches higher numbers than shitty ones. Same goes for outs. However, if any of us decided we wanted to grow 100lbs all at once in California.....the sun is fucking free. Sure there is overhead with doing it outdoor, but cost that out and then do the same for indoor with added electric bills. Indoor will always cost more because it costs more to produce and makes for a product with more quality control. If a bunch of birds decide to shit on your outdoor, that sucks, indoor, it hits the roof.....
                              The idea that production cost should drive price differences between indoor and outdoor is a fallacy. That indoor should cost more because indoor growers think it costs more (that depends on how you figure it) to produce is nonsense. Consumers do not care at all about grower overhead costs but they've been duped by indoor growers to accept that idea.

                              And just how do you cost outdoor, exactly? What gets counted and what doesn't? Price of the land? Cost of the 4 wheel drive pickup? Costs related to water supply and storage? For one season or multiple ones? There are many factors to consider. Narrowing it down to gear and electric bills vs "free sun" is way too simplistic and wrong. Sun isn't free because land isn't free. Sun is also not unlimited. Much of the planet gets adequate sun just 6-7 months a year.

                              The notion that indoor provides more quality control is another dubious notion and whether it does or doesn't is irrelevant to pricing. What good is that control when it limits the quality of the terpenes obtainable? There are terp profiles indoor cannot achieve.

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                                Originally posted by musigny23 View Post
                                The idea that production cost should drive price differences between indoor and outdoor is a fallacy. That indoor should cost more because indoor growers think it costs more (that depends on how you figure it) to produce is nonsense. Consumers do not care at all about grower overhead costs but they've been duped by indoor growers to accept that idea.

                                And just how do you cost outdoor, exactly? What gets counted and what doesn't? Price of the land? Cost of the 4 wheel drive pickup? Costs related to water supply and storage? For one season or multiple ones? There are many factors to consider. Narrowing it down to gear and electric bills vs "free sun" is way too simplistic and wrong. Sun isn't free because land isn't free. Sun is also not unlimited. Much of the planet gets adequate sun just 6-7 months a year.

                                The notion that indoor provides more quality control is another dubious notion and whether it does or doesn't is irrelevant to pricing. What good is that control when it limits the quality of the terpenes obtainable? There are terp profiles indoor cannot achieve.
                                Well, i just couldnt disagree more. Quality control is a dubious notion and is irrelevant to pricing? I could go on to dismantle your other comments but... we can stop here. Well just have to agree to disagree, have a terrific day.
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