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    #16
    You are in stand by mode anyways. No rules, nothing to do but stack money and wait. The 6 CBD farmers are going to try and lock down the new bill if it passes, they donate all the time to politicians

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      #17
      Why has there not been a overthrow attempt in this state? We need to jack a cruise ship march all the fl polititians on it then sink it 20 miles offshore. Im so sick of the bs here im ready to move and im a 9th generation floridian. Im so sick of out of state assholes coming here and running shit or thinkong they run shit. People need to buck on this shit now but it will never happen. Our state spawned vogel and his legal highway robbery and still no one took up arms to buck on a gov literally robbing people of their hard earned money. Instead that policy spread and now if you have a lil weed and more than $100 on you they take it and you gotta fight to get it back. I got jacked for a half o and my previous paycheck by the shithead cops in this state. They charged me with a felony cuz they could then take my cash. I dont feel bad for cops when shitty shit happens to them. They dont feel bad when theu do shitty shit to us. They volunteered to be cops we didnt volunteer to have our rights taken away and have loaded guns poimted at us. Every cop breaks the golden rule of gun safety never point a gun at something you dont intend to kill. But they do it with loaded guns and dont get in any trouble but if i point a gun at a idiot tresspassing on my property i can and most likely will go to jail.

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        #18
        The "overthrow" already happened. Disney World and the white people with guns are a pretty fair indicator.

        I think the political people in FL are just plain dense. Once they saw how it was going, they should have jumped all over medical cannabis. Fl is known as the retirement state for god's sake.
        It could have been the easiest sell in the world for them. " We disapprove morally, but what else can we do - we have all these old people in pain ."
        IF FL had honestly gone with medical cannabis, it could have worked really well with the tourist industry. They have got to be kicking themselves in the ass right about now.
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          #19
          No theyre too arrogant and ignorant to even acknowledge theyre wrong. Shit they turned down a free train down I4 for a toll lane. I hate the republican retards that run this state.

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            #20
            Originally posted by PoweredByLove View Post
            i keep going over the text of the ballot. and i see nothing that says "you cannot grow" i see language that says the department of health...or some department of writing out bullshit figures and regulations....i think it might actually just say "regulating committee" but anyway they. the infamous "they" get to choose what constitutes a dispensing center, a treatment center, and production facilities.

            but...it clearly states that this bill doesn't authorize you to smoke, use or grow weed...except if you are a "patient" and you are allowed to dispense and procure the medicinal if you're a "caregiver"

            so basically if you are patient or caregiver you are exempt from prosecution for marijuana "crimes".

            you gotta use their own words against em...loopholes #bullshitlikethat


            you might be confusing the charlottes webb law with the new initiative. they are 2 separate things. not related at all. technically they passed medical in florida already. but this one is better than that (charlottes web: only edibles and tinctures of cbd strains) bullshit and it's permanent unless 60% overturn it.
            You are wrong about " patients and caregivers". In this state, only death ready patients are allowed to partake in " medical marijuana " from a dispensary that will only sell you , CBD oil. No bud,!No THC!
            NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO GROW IR BE A CAREGIVER! Been at this 4+ decades in this fucking state!! Ass backwards as they come!! Spend most of my days in Cali. Now!!!!....
            Smoke em if ya got em!

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              #21
              why do i feel like no one in here is talking about the same thing as anyone else?


              dis wat i'm talkin bout

              https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Medi...ndment_2_(2016)

              Allows medical use of marijuana for individuals with debilitating medical conditions as determined by a licensed Florida physician. Allows caregivers to assist patients’ medical use of marijuana. The Department of Health shall register and regulate centers that produce and distribute marijuana for medical purposes and shall issue identification cards to patients and caregivers. Applies only to Florida law. Does not immunize violations of federal law or any non-medical use, possession or production of marijuana.
              click the link to read the full text of the bill. it's literally one to two pages of text, you can do it buddy.

              this is not charlottes web. when this passes. the health department will have to go back to work to choose more growers and dispensaries. and it does not immunize any non medical use, which actually means it immunizes medical use. you gotta play their game man, words are how they trick you into doing things you don't want....like voting on a solar power amendment that actually cripples solar for the people and gives the power to the energy companies. slick shit these sophists.

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              a paid teacher of philosophy and rhetoric in ancient Greece, associated in popular thought with moral skepticism and specious reasoning.
              a person who reasons with clever but fallacious arguments.
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                #22
                I will vote for the new bill but I wont hold my breath on the peoples will actually happening. The republican retards in charge will surely fuck it up. Who appoints the people at the department of health? Never seen that position on a ballot here so I guess its probably some elected official. I guess i will have to google that 1. Do you really think they're gonna let us grow? Only if you have miliions in the bank already and are willing to pay the bribes(application fees) without a guarantee youll get a permit. Thats so ass backwards since when does a business operate based on a lottery system? Its truely antiamerican but so was the whole war on drugs. I say hang the traitors that have stolen peoples money land and freedom.

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                  #23
                  And fyi i know the lottery was the old charlottes web bill and btw it does allow for high thc oil now. But the dept of health will get to set the rules and it will be same old shit. I hope im wrong and got 40 acres of pure sativa planted in a year or 2. I will invite you and windy over and get yall so high that yall become best friends lol

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                    #24
                    we're gonna grow regardless. this just gives us a legal loophole. which they would rather not have which is why they fought it so hard. but this is just a foot in the door. we can go the cali wa/co route and fine tune the law after it's cemented that we have medical.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by P-NUT View Post
                      ...I will invite you and windy over and get yall so high that yall become best friends lol

                      im coming to watch the fireworks


                      peace
                      “In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.

                      [DEA Administrative Law Judge - 1988]”


                      Francis Young



                      Time to kill the spasms

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by PoweredByLove View Post
                        why do i feel like no one in here is talking about the same thing as anyone else?


                        dis wat i'm talkin bout

                        https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Medi...ndment_2_(2016)



                        click the link to read the full text of the bill. it's literally one to two pages of text, you can do it buddy.

                        this is not charlottes web. when this passes. the health department will have to go back to work to choose more growers and dispensaries. and it does not immunize any non medical use, which actually means it immunizes medical use. you gotta play their game man, words are how they trick you into doing things you don't want....like voting on a solar power amendment that actually cripples solar for the people and gives the power to the energy companies. slick shit these sophists.
                        Once again I say, it gives NO ONE the right to grow, EXCEPT THE CHOSEN FEW! After 5+ decades in this state, I know the games they play. Caregivers are allowed to HELP, thats it!! No growing! You really think Rick Scott is going to give up his thievery? Hell no! Hes got big Pharm/Private Prisons(fed private prisons BAD/state private prisons GOOD) I dont care how many people(over 60%, which is bullshit), the laws will be chopped apart, county by county, town by town! Orlando, Winterpark, both just enacted a 9 month moratorium(ban) on even TALKING about any shops opening up! So its total bullshit! No stinking law will EVER stop growing!!
                        Smoke em if ya got em!

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                          #27
                          i dunno why you keep saying the chosen few i showed you it's medical for medicinal and even if you don't fit the strict criteria and grow it for medicine i'm sure you can easily win a court case if it ever comes down to it. so long as you aren't really just about growing weed to sell in which case just keep doing what you've been doing regardless. even if the bill did allow all kinds of ailments including headaches you still wouldn't be able to just start selling weed on your own. the tax man needs his cut. always.
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                            #28
                            PBL,

                            you are offering dangerous advice bro.

                            ive read the amendment and no home grows allowed.

                            how do you come to the conclusion that the law may allow home grows?

                            at best i see that if the amendment passes and flowers are able to be purchased from a licensed dispensing outlet then cops may not be able to investigate further when the smell of Cannabis is present and the individual is a card carrying mmj patient.

                            for me if i hold a mmj card then how does leo know who grew the Cannabis i possess?

                            i see you have posted a few times to use the language against them to get out of trouble. just make sure you comprehend the law or consult an attorney before you try it....jmo


                            peace
                            “In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.

                            [DEA Administrative Law Judge - 1988]”


                            Francis Young



                            Time to kill the spasms

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by PoweredByLove View Post
                              i dunno why you keep saying the chosen few i showed you it's medical for medicinal and even if you don't fit the strict criteria and grow it for medicine i'm sure you can easily win a court case if it ever comes down to it. so long as you aren't really just about growing weed to sell in which case just keep doing what you've been doing regardless. even if the bill did allow all kinds of ailments including headaches you still wouldn't be able to just start selling weed on your own. the tax man needs his cut. always.
                              I dont know if your illiterate, or just want to argue. Here are the FACTS!
                              NO legislation has been introduced or discussed , about legal home grows. NOT EVEN FOR ONE PLANT! This is NOT California! Dont know how many times, YOU have been in front of a judge in Fl. I dont care who your attorney is, or how much you pay($10's of thousands), you will STILL be convicted!! The criminal justice system in Fl., is tied to private prisons. There NEVER going to let a case go, when they can fine you, take your assets, and once you fail (and you will) probation, they stick you in Starke! Dont know what Starke is? I suggest you look it up!
                              Do you really think that after 50+ years, a FREE MAN, that has grown for 40+ years, I dont know what the fuck is going on? Do ya??? Get serious, stop telling bullshit, before some dumbass kid takes your advice, and land in jail! Lastly you WANT to give the tax man money? Are you a cop?
                              Smoke em if ya got em!

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                                #30
                                Anyway keep being ignorant to sophisticated language. I can't help you. Lawyers are all double talk. I suggest you learn to comprehend what they're saying before they legislate you all into labor camps.
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