Originally Posted by TomHill

Hi again VanXant,

Re: OP's only. You can't be suggesting removing from the table offering SC hybrids (etc) in this outcrossing species. Perhaps you are saying that F1's should only be made by way of bulk crossing, instead of locating and using only proven superior genotypes from within the parental populations? No selfing, no ExE, no backrossing etc, anywhere along the way, or? I'm having a hard time (even though well rested) following the totality of this proposed paradigm shift here - Except that you are pretty closely describing what I have been doing for decades and thankfully have the pure lines to show for it.

So now, to be clear, in addition to what I do I'd like to do some much more intensive breeding in the creation of new hybrids. This is damaging to the gene pool in your opinion? Thanks. -Tom

ps: I also really did want to offer breeder packs of 100, and that would certainly warrant a price break. But then businesses other than my distributors would likely buy them and repackage them into tens then sell at maybe even a better price than my distributors so that didn't seem to be a doable option. There are already businesses out there breaking into 10packs and selling single seeds etc, lol.

Originally Posted by TomHill

VanXant,

Yeah I was speaking of single cross hybrids.

Where is the other half of this plan, the yin to go with the yang? Are you suggesting that all these muddled-up polyhybrids should be maintained and offered with an eye to conservation genetics? In corn (and in stark contrast to what we have here) no less than hundreds of new inbred lines are developed each year by way of intensive inbreeding be it backcross or pedigree/selfing methods. Do you not feel that increasing (somewhat, at the very least) the frequency of favorable alleles should precede the type of maintenance you are suggesting? I do.

As far as Gypsy policing what happens I think you are being a tad optimistic in the change you think this would bring. We must police ourselves, the responsibility is ours in my opinion along with the educated customer. There are folks breeding here that could improve their understanding of what they're doing and don't seem to care to, true. At the same time Gypsy does require new breeders to at least demonstrate a demand for their product before he'll do biz with them I think. As well, he offers this site where education can and does take place. I assure you that the vast majority of retailers don't bother with either of the above.

Education is the key in my opinion, but lol I don't blame you one bit for not wanting the job beyond what you already do for the community. -Tom

Originally Posted by TomHill

VanXant is an extremely talented cannabis researcher and in a league of very few. He has opened many folks' eyes over the years myself included on many subjects - probably my favorite online author of all time. He's something of a loose cannon though haha - a product of his frustration regarding the state of things. I think Gypsy understands this or would have never afforded him the incredible amount of slack that he has afforded him thus far. It is difficult to have a sense of humor about or take lightly what's happening to our cannabis gene pool for those actually paying attention. We all agree on the desired goals I think, but disagree on how to achieve them. Thoughtless breeders will always find a place to sling their products - education is the key. -Tom